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    Re: Spikes or McKenzie?

    posted at 8/1/2010 11:08 PM EDT

    I don't see either of them supplanting Guyton as the starter from the start of the season barring injuries.
     

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    Re: Spikes or McKenzie?

    posted at 8/1/2010 11:25 PM EDT

    I think Spikes would beat out McKenzie.. everything i've read/heard, Spikes has been all over the field, very instinctive in picking up the plays and getting to the ball.  He's going to be a SOLID mlb.. I would imagine he'd be the starter next to Mayo.  He's much faster than his 40-time suggests. 

    As for his coverage ability, like a previous person said, he had multiple picks in college and returned several for TD's.. he's just got a nose for the ball.  He might not be able to cover like a safety, but oh well.. he's an ILB!

    BUT... I think Guyton will be alongside Mayo, with Spikes slowly working his way into getting more and more playing time as the season goes on.. figure he'll split 50/50 with Guyton by the end of the season.
     

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    Re: Spikes or McKenzie?

    posted at 8/1/2010 11:55 PM EDT

    Brandon Spikes as a Florida Gator:

    Games Played (not "started" (39 games), just "played in"):

    47 Games

    Total Tackles:

    307 Total Tackles

    Tackles For Losses:

    31.5 TFLs

    Total Sacks:

    6.5 Sacks

    Fumble Recoveries:

    4 frs

    Interceptions:

    6 INTs

    INTs returned for TDs:

    4 Ints-Tds

    Passes Broken Up:

    14 PBUs


    ~You guys do know that he was a MIDDLE Linebacker, right?
     

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    Re: Spikes or McKenzie?

    posted at 8/2/2010 12:16 AM EDT

    Lets play a 2:5 like WV...

                                      Brace       Fork
          Guyton       TBC        Spikes       Mayo      Mackenzie
    Butler           Chung              MW                       Bodden

    Why the hell not it works in college

    We'll call it...... O Sh*t i have no F***cking outside LBers
     

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    Re: Spikes or McKenzie?

    posted at 8/2/2010 1:32 AM EDT

    I think the problem is the Pats are relying on too many rookies. Spikes and Mackenzie both have potential but are untried in the Pats D and at NFL level. BB needed/needs to bring in a veteran to help out.
     

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    Re: Spikes or McKenzie?

    posted at 8/2/2010 10:45 AM EDT

    Cant wait to see both these players in preseason games - i think more than ever patriots fans should be interested in these preseason games. so many position battles. Between Spikes and McKenzie it will be fun to see how they match up to NFL talent.
     

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    Re: Spikes or McKenzie?

    posted at 8/3/2010 7:28 PM EDT

    garytx  - you are dead on!  How could BB pass on Mike Oher of Ole Miss!  He would protect Brady for 10 years!  ALL pro this year, my guess.  Re McKenzie and Spikes, I think they will both get a goodly number of reps, with Guyton limited to 3rd down passing downs only.
     

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    Re: Spikes or McKenzie?

    posted at 8/3/2010 10:20 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: Spikes or McKenzie?:
     "McKenzie, an inside linebacker, made quite the impact on Friday at Patriots training camp when he stuffed Laurence Maroney on a goal line situation, knocking the veteran running back squarely back at the goal line and keeping him out of the end zone. " Let's not judge his performance on stuffing Laura Maroney.  The league has been doing just that for 4 years.
    Posted by Tcal2

    It's still a good play, regardless.
     

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    Re: Spikes or McKenzie?

    posted at 8/3/2010 10:40 PM EDT

    In Response to Re: Spikes or McKenzie?:
    garytx   - you are dead on!  How could BB pass on Mike Oher of Ole Miss!  He would protect Brady for 10 years!  ALL pro this year, my guess.  Re McKenzie and Spikes, I think they will both get a goodly number of reps, with Guyton limited to 3rd down passing downs only.
    Posted by fyyankees



    How could he pass on Oher? Well honestly speaking in that moment of the draft I was saying the same thing. However, the Patriots drafted Vollmer 35 or 36 picks later, saved a boat load of cash and in the same rookie season vastly outperformed Oher according to pro football focus.

    In hindsight, I was wrong and the Patriots were right it seems.

    That's how!
     

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    Re: Spikes or McKenzie?

    posted at 8/3/2010 10:42 PM EDT

    mayo and Cunningham outside

    mckenzie and spikes inside

    3rd passing bring in guyton for mayo

    Crable may be resigned for less money
     

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    Re: Spikes or McKenzie?

    posted at 8/3/2010 10:51 PM EDT

    Check Reiss's blog entry on Spikes replacing Guyton during today's practice.

    Spikes is becoming more impressive by the day. I wouldn't be surprised if both Spikes and Cunningham start before too long.

     

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    Re: Spikes or McKenzie?

    posted at 8/3/2010 11:24 PM EDT

    Question is what are they going to do with Dane Fletcher, Thomas Williams and Eric Alexander who all play inside as well?

    PFW stated that Fletcher was there biggest "surprise"

    They also stated that Alexander sticks out more in 11 on 11 drills than others and he has made more impact plays than Mayo, Guyton and Spikes.

    I have heard great things about Mackenzie though

    They must have another hand to play...........??? either they have some knowledge that burgess is comming back or something else is in the works.

    As we've all suggestion some of the players like Guyton, Mackenzie and Mayo could be moved outside but after 12 practices they are yet to do so, which means the do not intend to
     

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    Re: Spikes or McKenzie?

    posted at 8/4/2010 1:00 AM EDT

    tag, Eric Alexander cannot play ILB in the NFL. He's strictly a special teams guy.

    Every time BB trots him out there during a game, he proves he does not belong.

    I expect Eric to be cut this year.
     

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    Re: Spikes or McKenzie?

    posted at 8/4/2010 9:06 AM EDT

    My guess is if McKenzie is 100%, he will start the season as the starter along side Mayo.

     

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    Re: Spikes or McKenzie?

    posted at 8/4/2010 10:56 AM EDT

    In Response to Spikes or McKenzie?:
    Who do you think will line up next to Mayo? To be honest last year I thought Mckenzie was going to be the starter before tearing his ACL - when he was drafted in 09 Belichick raved about how instinctive he can be. He played for 3 Division I schools and made all conference teams. However, we got a new hummer in our garage called Brandon Spikes. He was a bonafide star at Florida and in college. Id love to see him square someone up every Sunday. No matter who starts next to Mayo I think we are in for a treat. Who do you guys think will start?
    Posted by Boston-kyle



    It will be Spikes, as long as he gets most of his "uniqueness" under control. BB likes that he does some things his own way, but Spikes needs to limit the risks in going his own way. He is a gifted natural, instinctive player who sees the plays unfolding. Spikes is the bigger upside of the two.
     

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    Re: Spikes or McKenzie?

    posted at 8/4/2010 11:35 AM EDT

    Spikes sounds like a Junior Seau, Seau was beat up a bit for doing things his own way, being a pile jumper, excessive selibrations like his rediculous fist pump after every tackle or busted play behind the line of scrimmage...

    I would say BB is not foreign to unconventional LBer play as Brian Cox and Roman Phifer were not A typical 3-4 guys.

    Spikes play can help him but the first time he is found out of position on a busted play that goes yard he is going to be benched and who knows what that will do to his confidence
     

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    Re: Spikes or McKenzie?

    posted at 8/4/2010 11:40 AM EDT

    I am going with Mckenzie as well
     

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    Re: Spikes or McKenzie?

    posted at 8/4/2010 12:22 PM EDT

              After watching four practices(I wish it could have been more,but you do what you can)it looks like Spikes but I migh wager a bob or two that both of them and guyton will have a true positive impact.

     

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    Re: Spikes or McKenzie?

    posted at 8/4/2010 1:39 PM EDT

    Either way, can we go wrong?  I am also fo the school of thought wherein Guyton, McKenzie and Spikes all get significant time alongside Mayo.  If I had to choose, I would think that McKenzie has a leg up.