Starters Next Year

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    Im not saying Josh barret is horrible he was just not productive in denver and its hard to think hel take a spot of a probowl guy.

    Also im all for cutting kazur without a paycut for a guy like maneri(former college te could be good swing tackle/ t eligible)

    TBC as a cap casualty to get carter on the roster

    and whilhite possibly to save a roster spot and his large salary is not good
     
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    Kaczur won't be cut, BB would have to be pretty impressed by Cannon and Connolly to cut a vet like Kaczur.


    I see the starters looking like this.
                                         Meriweather         Chung
                                                 FS                    SS

                                              
               Free Agent               Spikes        Mayo         Cunningham
                    OLB                       MLB            MLB                OLB
                         

    Bodden                      G. Warren    Wilfork  T. Warren              McCourty
    CB2                                   DE            NT         DE                             CB1



    WR2           OT        OG           C         OG           OT           TE           WR1

    Branch   Solder  Mankins  Koppen  Kaczur   Vollmer   Gronk     Welker

                                                           QB
                                                          Brady
                                          RB                           RB2
                                     Green-Ellis               Woodhead
     
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    Personally, I like the tandem of Gerrard and Ty at DE. Gerrard did a good job for us until he went down last season. The biggest need for us lies in that OLB position.


    The defense doesn't look as pourus as it once did.
     
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    It seems like the overall concencus is Kaczur is gone. What I don't understand is if Soldier is not up to speed game one, (now remember he will have a much shortned training period before the season starts) who starts oppisite Vollmer? Kaczur in BB's opinion was the man who was to replace Mankins last year in his holdout over and above Connolly. So it is easy to surmize that Kaczur would be the first man off the bench for both OT and OG. Why then do you cut him now while we are going to prep two rookie offencive linemen to protect your franchise QB. Yes the 3.4 Mill. is too much to pay a back up OL player, but it is insurance for one more year. But so is James Sanders 2.8 Mill. to be 3rd or maby 4th man off the bench for safety. And Crumplers 2.4 Mill. for his veteran leadership. I believe Kaczur stays at least till the adjustment period is over for the rookies and if it is before the trade deadline they will try to move him out.
     
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    In Response to Starters Next Year : Fletcher is a ILB and will probably start over spikes if he comes in out of shape.
    Posted by tagandtrade


    Dane Fletcher has played both ILB and OLB. Lets get one thing straight though; Brandon Spikes could come into camp 100 lbs overweight and he would still beat out Dane Fletcher for a job! As far as the starting lineup, Woodhead isn't going to start, he is a 3rd down / change of pace back. I think BB showed in the draft that he plans on running some more so I would expect to see Vereen or Law Firm start. I also think Cannon is going to make a great recovery, and start at RG. Orhenberger? I think by the end of training camp he will be flipping burgers at your local Mickey D's.
     
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    If Light isn't re-signed, I think there's a pretty good chance Kaczur will be retained (assuming he's healthy), simply because he can play tackle, and I doubt BB is going to want to go into the season without a veteran who can back up or fill in for Solder as Solder learns the position. And if Kaczur can also play guard, his value will increase, because he'll be a versatile back up at several positions.  I've never really liked Kaczur as a starter, but he's a better third tackle than LeVoir, and we don't know if guys like Maneri, Ojinnaka (if he's signed), and Cannon are really able to play the tackle position on a regular basis. I guess one of those guys could beat out Kaczur, but so far we haven't seen evidence that any of them is able to be a dependable fill in if Solder needs time to develop. My guess is there's a 2 in 3 chance Kaczur stays with the team as long as he's healthy--and that chance rises considerably if Kaczur proves he can play guard as well as tackle. 

     
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    Who would you rather see play RT: Max Lane or Nick Kaczur?

    Close call, but I would have to go with Max Lane.

    If Light isn't re-signed, I think there's a pretty good chance Kaczur will be retained (assuming he's healthy), simply because he can play tackle, ...
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    Maryweather will not be a Patriot next year.  Questionable character and dumbazz arn't the intangibles you look for in a safety.
     
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    If Light isn't re-signed, I think there's a pretty good chance Kaczur will be retained (assuming he's healthy), simply because he can play tackle, and I doubt BB is going to want to go into the season without a veteran who can back up or fill in for Solder as Solder learns the position. And if Kaczur can also play guard, his value will increase, because he'll be a versatile back up at several positions.  I've never really liked Kaczur as a starter, but he's a better third tackle than LeVoir, and we don't know if guys like Maneri, Ojinnaka (if he's signed), and Cannon are really able to play the tackle position on a regular basis. I guess one of those guys could beat out Kaczur, but so far we haven't seen evidence that any of them is able to be a dependable fill in if Solder needs time to develop. My guess is there's a 2 in 3 chance Kaczur stays with the team as long as he's healthy--and that chance rises considerably if Kaczur proves he can play guard as well as tackle. 
    Posted by prolate0spheroid


    I believe Light will be to costly to resign. I also have not been totaly satisfyed with Kaczurs history but he may apear to be the best available option for an insurance policy while Soldier and Cannon adjust to the system.
     
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    In Response to Re: Starters Next Year : From now on, when someone's wrong 3 different times before they conclude that sentiment under 1 single Period (.), It's gonna be called a "Zippey-dee-do Trifecta," o.k.?
    Posted by LazarusintheSanatorium


    Ha ha
    Zippey-dee-do Trifecta!
     
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    In Response to Re: Starters Next Year : Dane Fletcher has played both ILB and OLB. Lets get one thing straight though; Brandon Spikes could come into camp 100 lbs overweight and he would still beat out Dane Fletcher for a job! As far as the starting lineup, Woodhead isn't going to start, he is a 3rd down / change of pace back. I think BB showed in the draft that he plans on running some more so I would expect to see Vereen or Law Firm start. I also think Cannon is going to make a great recovery, and start at RG. Orhenberger? I think by the end of training camp he will be flipping burgers at your local Mickey D's.
    Posted by Quagmire3


    Zippey-dee-do Trifecta
     
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    Merriweather wil be on the team and a starter. I forgot he as the team scapegoat is the reason why we need recievers and a pass rush. But i think the lack of rookie camp does make kazur staying more possible with less time to have sodler develop.

    Also i do not think the teddy bruschi comparrisons are alike for fletcher hes ALMOST 63 and arounf 250 bigger than teddy i think he has a shot to win the job at olb where he is a reckless rusher
     
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    Woodhead a starter?? no way...the kid from Cal looks good...
    http://60maxpowero.com/draftermath1.html

    http://60maxpowero.com/draftermath2.html
     
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    In Response to Re: Starters Next Year : I believe Light will be to costly to resign. I also have not been totaly satisfyed with Kaczurs history but he may apear to be the best available option for an insurance policy while Soldier and Cannon adjust to the system.
    Posted by part-timer


    I completely agree. It's possible that one of the young guys will show enough in preseason to challenge Kaczur for the third tackle position, but that seems unlikely to me, and if Kaczur proves able to play guard, I think he becomes a very versatile and therefore valuable backup.  
     
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    Posted by tagandtrade


    name one thing in the post that is wrong, never mind three things! For you I say; Zippeey-dee-do moron~!
     
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    Ik we dont have free agency yet, but lets take a guess at who will be our starts come opening day. Offense Qb: tom brady Rb: danny woodhead RT-vollmer rg-orenberger(younger and will outplay connelly) C-Koppen Lg- Mankins(say your prayers) Lt-Solder Te-Gronkowski WR-Tate Wr- Branch Wr-Welker(slot) Defense Le-T.warren Re-Ron brace(best option).g.warren/stroud NT- Big Vince Olb-Ninc/3rd down moore/possible FA ILB-mayo ilb-spikes Olb.cunningham/fletcher fs- b merri SS- Chung CB- mcourtney Cb- bodden
    Posted by Bspikes55


    RB:  BJGE will almost certainly be signed.  In my opinion he'll get about 50% of the plays, Woodhead gets 25%, and the two rookies work themselves in a bit on starting day because of the nonzero possibility that BJGE might deal with an injury over an entire season.

    Mankins would not take 3 million last year, and I agreed with his reasoning last year, but I think he will take 10 million or so this year.  It's all about the money.  "Moral issues" about money will be put aside and then dragged out for the press occasionally.

    I might give an edge to Hernandez over Tate for more plays on opening day.  The team doesn't need 3 wide receivers when it has a pass-catching H-back.

    I'd give Cunningham an exclusive starting position over Fletcher.  It depends on the down and distance of course.

    Ras-I is going to walk in and pretty much kick Bodden off the field.
     
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    In Response to Re: Starters Next Year : name one thing in the post that is wrong, never mind three things! For you I say; Zippeey-dee-do moron~!
    Posted by Quagmire3


    Alright...I've thought back on my initial response at times, and have come to the conclusion that I was "A D#ck."  Wrong however, no...but again, acting like A Pr#ck, I hate doing...I never dig that about myself, and even on a messageboard, I feel pathetic when I DO (ain't part of my true nature to attack...IS part of my true nature that kill people that DO attack unprovoked-*cough like i just did). 

    Dane Fletcher=Weakside Outside Linebacker pass-rush specialist.  Hasn't he played OLB for something like 99% of the snaps through his entire collegiate career???  Isn't he KNOWN for the way he can use multiple pass-rush moves to get into the backfield at OLB and get TFLs and hopefully Sacks???  Spikes=SILB...2 TOTALLY, and completely different LB spots...

    MORE...

    Moving on, I do st#piid things like that ONLY when it's something I feel strongly about.  And in terms of Brandon Spikes, even though it's just a football messageboard, I DO feel that he doesn't get the respect for the way he shored up NE's SILB spot for the first time in half a decade- a decade (since Ted Johnson).  Brandon Spikes's play IS the reason WHY Jerod Mayo went to the pro-bowl (yes...really).  And when I think about how people diss him for missing like 2-3 games for his ADD cr#p meds (that tub Ron Borges did, when ggrading out how each player played during the season...think he gave spikes a D.  Yet Mankins misses more games and gets an A)), or the fact that he can't play b/c his 40 time is appalling...  They have ZERO idea what Spikes has brought to the table and what his job is.  He's gotta be quicker than ANY-one in reading, diagnosing the play, getting a jump on the play's direction, BOTH offense and his fellow defenders...so he can what?  Smash face first into 1 or 2 O-lineman (but always 1 b/c NE has only 3 down D-Lineman, AND half the time, ALSO smash through if it's just 1 O-Lineman who's half a foot taller and at least 50lbs heavier than him, Take on a FB, for what?  His reward?  His reward is that it's his JOB to do so, so Jerod Mayo's perfect wrap tackling has a totally clean and unhindered look on the ball-carrier.  ZERO stats...Ha-ha, pro-bowl?  Not in this lifetime.  Oh, and fans and wport's writers still sell him short. 

    Spikes is a FANTASTIC SILB...never comes in outta shape, at U of FL- always regarded as a workhorse, and a team flag waver gettin' guys fired up.  GREAT SILB...and a freaking ROOKIE?!?  Remember NE's interior run-defense the year prior?  No spikes...  Remember that Brown's game where Hillis tore up NE's interior Defense...?  Coaches and Players were asked about the run game gameplan.  1 Brown said="Simple, make Spikes run around or just run away from him, and run directly towards Mayo."  That's it...  NO Brandon Spikes=No Jerod Mayo in pro-bowl, and awful NE run d.

    ...now that my rage is out again...sorry for being a j#rk in case #1.
     
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    In Response to Re: Starters Next Year : Alright...I've thought back on my initial response at times, and have come to the conclusion that I was "A D#ck."  Wrong however, no...but again, acting like A Pr#ck, I hate doing...I never dig that about myself, and even on a messageboard, I feel pathetic when I DO (ain't part of my true nature to attack...IS part of my true nature that kill people that DO attack unprovoked-*cough like i just did).  Dane Fletcher=Weakside Outside Linebacker pass-rush specialist.  Hasn't he played OLB for something like 99% of the snaps through his entire collegiate career???  Isn't he KNOWN for the way he can use multiple pass-rush moves to get into the backfield at OLB and get TFLs and hopefully Sacks???  Spikes=SILB...2 TOTALLY, and completely different LB spots... MORE... Moving on, I do st#piid things like that ONLY when it's something I feel strongly about.  And in terms of Brandon Spikes, even though it's just a football messageboard, I DO feel that he doesn't get the respect for the way he shored up NE's SILB spot for the first time in half a decade- a decade (since Ted Johnson).  Brandon Spikes's play IS the reason WHY Jerod Mayo went to the pro-bowl (yes...really).  And when I think about how people diss him for missing like 2-3 games for his ADD cr#p meds (that tub Ron Borges did, when ggrading out how each player played during the season...think he gave spikes a D.  Yet Mankins misses more games and gets an A)), or the fact that he can't play b/c his 40 time is appalling...  They have ZERO idea what Spikes has brought to the table and what his job is.  He's gotta be quicker than ANY-one in reading, diagnosing the play, getting a jump on the play's direction, BOTH offense and his fellow defenders...so he can what?  Smash face first into 1 or 2 O-lineman (but always 1 b/c NE has only 3 down D-Lineman, AND half the time, ALSO smash through if it's just 1 O-Lineman who's half a foot taller and at least 50lbs heavier than him, Take on a FB, for what?  His reward?  His reward is that it's his JOB to do so, so Jerod Mayo's perfect wrap tackling has a totally clean and unhindered look on the ball-carrier.  ZERO stats...Ha-ha, pro-bowl?  Not in this lifetime.  Oh, and fans and wport's writers still sell him short.  Spikes is a FANTASTIC SILB...never comes in outta shape, at U of FL- always regarded as a workhorse, and a team flag waver gettin' guys fired up.  GREAT SILB...and a freaking ROOKIE?!?  Remember NE's interior run-defense the year prior?  No spikes...  Remember that Brown's game where Hillis tore up NE's interior Defense...?  Coaches and Players were asked about the run game gameplan.  1 Brown said="Simple, make Spikes run around or just run away from him, and run directly towards Mayo."  That's it...  NO Brandon Spikes=No Jerod Mayo in pro-bowl, and awful NE run d. ...now that my rage is out again...sorry for being a j#rk in case #1.
    Posted by LazarusintheSanatorium


    I think spikes does a good job of taking up blockers to free up mayo for stops ur right. i do think fletcher should play olb, and he was a de is college
     
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    Laz,

    I also think Spikes is going to explode this season. He was always a "factor" at UF, making bigtime FFs and INTs. With another year under his belt here, I fully expect him to get that step back too. 

    Last year he was a tackling machine, but he has only scratched the surface of his potential.
     
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    Laz, I also think Spikes is going to explode this season. He was always a "factor" at UF, making bigtime FFs and INTs. With another year under his belt here, I fully expect him to get that step back too.  Last year he was a tackling machine, but he has only scratched the surface of his potential.
    Posted by zbellino


    Absolutely agreed zb~...  Read on an article about when Spikes was out for those few games at the end of the Regular Season, at the time he was #2 on the team in TTs...  People seem to forget that he's the hammer and anvil in this run D...  Read, React, be the first and foremost to smash through the multiple people making a lane for the ball-carrier, AND to go over and above that by BOTH doing this job superbly And getting THAT number of tackles on the ball-carrier themself?  Absurd...  People ALSO appear to forget (esp last year's draft analyst talking heads-Kiper), that Spikes's instincts and just crazy reaction time and on-field quickness WAS good on passing downs at U of F...  The guy had something absurd like 6 INTs with either 2 or 4 of them (forget) returned for TDs the other way (again...a massive-sized ILB doesn't do this).  In all, It probably isn't too easy to combine the sheer size to even hope to play Strongside adequately, Size YET quickness to be the first wave (himself) in order to get there quicker than ANY-one, AND the natural instincts and feel and Football IQ in knowing offensive schemes and reading them, the innate feel for the game and crazy ability to sniff out what the O's doing and where, And the passion and love to do his utterly thankless job in relation to more glorified spots, and finally ALL that knowledge, love, and selflessness to go along with some sorta insane brain-damaged maniacal beserker WANT and willingness to smash face first into multiple O-Lineman and fullbacks whom are half the time, a foot taller than him and 50+ lbs heavier...  Any takers out there people to excell at this job, or just for this job itself?      
     
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