State's Witness Implicating AHern?

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    State's Witness Implicating AHern?

    Disclamer: The following is conjecture... but I'm willing to bet that it all is eventually revealed and comes to fruition.

    Carlos Ortiz arrested and in custody in connection with Lloyd's murder... has very likely implicated Ahern in the double murder in Boston in July 2012 (how else would LE have made this connection).  Which means that the State now has a clear motive against AHern for silencing Lloyd, (who alledgedly knew of Ahern's involvement).  Ortiz will likely have charges reduced from Accomplice to Murder ~20+ years, to Accessory to Muder ~5 years for his cooperation.  AND AHern will be charged with yet two more murders...and found guilty with a sentence of three consecutive life in prison sentences with no chance of parole.   If MA had a death penalty, A-Hern would be frying. 

     
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    Well I did find myself wondering how they figured that out a year later so your conjucture seems very interesting and plausible to me. I guess nothing would shock me at this point.

     
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    It's obvious Ortiz is singing but your making a jump by assuming Lloyd's murder had anything to do with the other.  If that we're the case then Hernandez would of wacked Ortiz.

     
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    It's obvious Ortiz is singing but your making a jump by assuming Lloyd's murder had anything to do with the other.  If that we're the case then Hernandez would of wacked Ortiz.



    It sounds like Ortiz is also being charged with murder and being held in prison. If he were talking, I doubt he would be sitting in a cell somewhere that Hern may have some other "friends".

    Could the the other guy whose name we have not heard who is talking.

     
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    It's obvious Ortiz is singing but your making a jump by assuming Lloyd's murder had anything to do with the other.  If that we're the case then Hernandez would of wacked Ortiz.

     



    It sounds like Ortiz is also being charged with murder and being held in prison. If he were talking, I doubt he would be sitting in a cell somewhere that Hern may have some other "friends".

     

    Could the the other guy whose name we have not heard who is talking.

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    Absolutely.  Someone is.

     
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    In response to FrnkBnhm's comment:

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    It's obvious Ortiz is singing but your making a jump by assuming Lloyd's murder had anything to do with the other.  If that we're the case then Hernandez would of wacked Ortiz.

     



    It sounds like Ortiz is also being charged with murder and being held in prison. If he were talking, I doubt he would be sitting in a cell somewhere that Hern may have some other "friends".

     

    Could the the other guy whose name we have not heard who is talking.

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    There is a picture of Ortiz in the Daily Mail, he seems to be a really tough dude. If he was state evidence, he would hve been placed under protective custody and you would not have heard about him yet, instead of simply being jailed. Agree that the other guy, whom nothing was spoken about, may be the actual one doing the talking.

     
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    It wouldn't surprise me if Ortiz or the other unnamed associate of Hernandez who was with him when Lloyd was offed turned and, in order to get the sweetest deal possible, implicated AH in the year-old double homicide.  As with the original poster, this is pure conjecture on my part.

     
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    Is this an episode of csi or a movie with a completely unbelievable plot or what!?

     
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    AH should just blame whitey thats more beliveable then all this.

     
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    One of the guys could certainly be singing - they don't have the lawyer or money that Hern has - but I imagine it's very easy (and standard procedure) to take a look back at unsolved murders over the last couple of years that fit similar parameters of this current one. The age of these guys, the time, the location, a vehicle that was seen with RI plates, etc. He very well could of had a hand in this one too.

     
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    One of the guys could certainly be singing - they don't have the lawyer or money that Hern has - but I imagine it's very easy (and standard procedure) to take a look back at unsolved murders over the last couple of years that fit similar parameters of this current one. The age of these guys, the time, the location, a vehicle that was seen with RI plates, etc. He very well could of had a hand in this one too.

     



    I cannot find news reports from the time the double murder occured last July. Did the police know about the fight with a party including Hernandez before the deceased left the night club? There was certainly no mention of Hernandez being questioned by the police over the shooting in the press at that time. Did they know the other car carrying the assailants had a RI plate?

     

    If those details were not known in the news reports from the time the crime occurred, the sudden location of SUV involved would strongly points to someone had now come forth and disclosed details about an old case .

     
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    obviously someone is singing and the cases are connected...i just have a hard time believing that a football God like AH would even consider this nonsense even if he were suckled by a  gangbanger at birth....this is unbelievable

    As always - 100% correct!

     
     
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    Well what really strikes me about this case is not disposing properly of the body. No corpse hard to get a conviction.  How stupid or high were they? Christ they cant find a couple garbage bags and rent a ocean going fishing boat? I couldnt sit still for a second just knowing that the body is soon to be found. Idiots all of them.




    No doubt.  I just don't get it.  I would say no way Hernandez did it because he wouldn't be that dumb to rent the car, be seen with this guy the night of the murder, then kill him a mile away from home and just leave it all there for people to find.  But it really looks like he is that dumb.  WOW, it's just so bizarre!!

     
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    of course. Why else would it be that noone has heard much in the media about these two individuals after police took them into custody?

     
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    In response to georom4's comment:

    obviously someone is singing and the cases are connected...i just have a hard time believing that a football God like AH would even consider this nonsense even if he were suckled by a  gangbanger at birth....this is unbelievable

    As always - 100% correct!

     




    Three seasons doesn't make him a God.  He was a rising star, maybe, but it ends there.

     
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    In response to Not-A-Shot's comment:

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    obviously someone is singing and the cases are connected...i just have a hard time believing that a football God like AH would even consider this nonsense even if he were suckled by a  gangbanger at birth....this is unbelievable

    As always - 100% correct!

     




    Three seasons doesn't make him a God.  He was a rising star, maybe, but it ends there.

     

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    there are 50 million reasons that say he was....he was pretty darn important to our team...and they let go some very good players to make room for him to do more...

     
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    Its the "Patriot Way".   Laughing

     
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    What makes you think he isn't that dumb?

     
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    I have wondered why Hernandez was dumb enough to use text messages that are saved when he was rounding up his posse from CT for the beat down or shooting. Can some techies enlighten me as to whether a past conversation is retrievable from a call made on a phone if it was not recorded?


    Living well is the best revenge.

     
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    Hey nomadfan, we were discussing the motive of the killing in another thread, I can't find which one so I will post this here:

    I came accross this today ....

    http://fansided.com/2013/06/27/aaron-hernandez-murder-odin-lloyd-motive/

    Maria Cramer @GlobeMCramer

    Hernandez's alleged victim, Odin Lloyd, may have had information about that double killings, officials tell us. Potential motive.

    9:05 AM - 27 Jun 2013  I knew I had read somewhere that Lloyd possibly knowing about the 2012 killings could have been the motive in killing Lloyd but I couldn't find where I had read that but the story in the link above mentioned it also.  I guess we will have to wait until the trial to find out what they believe the motive was.

     

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