Re: Stats the correlate well with scoring
posted at 4/2/2014 1:24 PM EDT
In response to wozzy's comment:
A great running game will allow an entirely average "game managing" QB to score points and win a Super Bowl; see Trent Dilfer, Doug Williams, Jim Plunkett, Joe Namath and Jeff Hostetler for examples.
The lack of a running game can make the greatest QB's of all time flame out and not score.
The top 12 highest-scoring teams in NFL regular-season history, and how far they went that postseason/
1. DENVER this past season, 606 points. Postseason result: Played Seattle in the Super Bowl and LOST.
2. NEW ENGLAND 2007 season, 589 points. Result: Lost to NY Giants in Super Bowl 42.
3. GREEN BAY 2011 season, 560 points. Result: Lost to NY Giants in divisional round.
4. NEW ENGLAND 2012 season, 557 points. Result: Lost to Baltimore Ravens in AFC Championship Game.
5. MINNESOTA 1998 season, 556 points. Result: Lost to Atlanta in the NFC Championship Game.
6. NEW ORLEANS 2011 season, 547 points. Result: Lost to the 49ers in the NFC divisional round.
7. WASHINGTON 1983 season, 541 points. Result: Lost to the L.A. Raiders in Super Bowl XVIII.
8. ST. LOUIS RAMS 2000 season, 540 points. Result: Lost to New Orleans in the NFC wild-card round.
—9. ST. LOUIS RAMS 1999 season, 526 points. Result: WON SUPER BOWL XXXIV over Tennessee. Yes, this Rams team was the only one among the top-12 scoring offenses in NFL history that won the Super Bowl that season.
10. INDIANAPOLIS 2004 season, 522 points. Result: Lost to New England in the AFC divisional round.
11. NEW ENGLAND 2010 season, 518 points. Result: Lost to NY Jets in the AFC divisional round.
T12. MIAMI 1984 season, 513 points. Result: Lost to 49ers in Super Bowl XIX.
T12. NEW ENGLAND 2011 season, 513 points. Result: Lost to NY Giants in Super Bowl XLVI.
–And if you go by average points per game, including teams that played 14-game regular-seasons, the highest two seasons in that category during the Super Bowl era would be…
RAIDERS 1967 AFL season, 468 points (33.4 per, would rank 9th by average). Result: Lost to Green Bay in Super Bowl II.
RAIDERS 1968 AFL season, 453 points (32.4 per, would rank 14th by average). Result: Lost to NY Jets in AFL conference championship.
All in all, 10 teams among NFL’s top-20 all-time scoring offenses (I only listed the top 14 here) got to the Super Bowl that season.
Those teams were 3-7 in the big game.
This thread is a red herring, it leads you away from some very basic precepts of football that matter, like physicality, time of possession and the effect of the play action pass.
Scoring in and of itself is irrelevant, scoring more than your opponent is what matters. I didn't care back in 2001-2004 how much we won a game by, only that we won. Passing doesn't happen in a vacuum, a punishing run game will wear down an opponent. An efficient passing game relies on so many variables (weather, yellow flags from officials, gravity, a quality throw AND catch) that it can't be relied on over a three game playoff series in December.
Three teams have passed heavily and ran little and won a Super Bowl, all three have occurred in the modern age and on turf (Saints 2010, Colts 07,' Packers in 2011'). The majority of winners throughout history have been run balanced teams. These few cases above are the exception that prove the rule.
In short... this thread is dumb.
Excellent Post. Perfect, if you know the game of Football. Its the Drive for show, Putt for dough mentality, of the new NFL. 100% correct, its the W-L and who scores more points that matters. Say all you want Running is essential, in the game of Football.
The key word here as far as passing is "efficient". I keep thinking of Marino and Fouts, and forget about the Montana's and Aikmen's, but lets keep passing.