In response to rkarp's comment:
Lloyd was a mistake signing. The dead money and the curerent lack of depth at the position is proof.
You can go ahead and blame Brady, you always do. The rest of us true fans have eyes, and saw a guy who caught the ball and fell down. And if Brady did not put the ball on the dime 90% of the time, Lloyd did not come down with it. (there were some lay out catches that were few and far between)
I wasnt happy with the signing at the time, I was disappointed in the player during the year, and I am most disappointed we are back in the exact same position this year, except with more dead money
No go ahead and continue to blame Brady while the rest of the board laughs at you and you ruin another thread
I am not blaming Brady exclusively. I disagree with how they've gone about running the offense, and YES, Brady is without question PART OF IT.
Lloyd knew the system, was a clear upgrade over Ocho, but it's become very apparent there is a dynamic of Brady needing to have this circle of trust crap that has actually been more of a detriment to the team because he hasn't been in the mode of balancing out the offens as much during the regular season because he hasn't had to.
Have you ever played sports? Something tells me you haven't. Believe it or not you can develop bad habits as an athlete and sometimes you need people to point that out to you. Whether or not Tom Martinez had that big of an effect on Brady where his passing or illness has had an impact, who knows.
But, it makes no sense to pretend a cheap Lloyd, as the 3rd passing option putting up 74 receptions in his first year here was somehow a "mistake signing".
You're a sneaky little human being, too. The reason why you are in here trying to sell your garbage is to yet again bash BB by saying is mistake due to Lloyd not morphing into Jerry Rice to cover for another BAD postseason game by Tom Brady.
And, so the "dead money" angle from you can be used again. People here with an IQ over 100 know your game. Look at your trollish premise. It basically says he was overpaid on the production and the dead money blocked the development of the WRs on the roster in 2012.
Really? Your agenda here is a joke and so transparent, to the point your agenda premises don't even make sense. That's how trollish you've become.
What will be funny is if they do resign LLoyd and then go high in the draft, because if they bring in Lloyd and draft a D'Andre Hopkins, here is what the depth chart looks like:
Amendola (line up everywhere, starter at the Z)
LLoyd (starter at the X, but should be moved around in year 2 here)
Edelman (lock, improved every year, solid WR used in slot and outside/back up)
Hopkins (total wildcard as a rookie, big ceiling)
Jenkins (decent vet, catches the ball, camp comp)
Jones (total wildcard, back up, can line up everywhere)
Slater (STs Ace, back up)
Flat out, that's nothing not sneeze at and on paper is an improvement from last year. You'd have to be a moron to look at that on paper tied to what Gronk, Hern and Ballard would mean as options for Brady. Throw in the RB group and it's even more attractive.
There is something fundamentally wrong with how, since the 2005 move to more shotgun spreads, the ability for a slew of WRs, including borderline HOFer Torry Holt, have trouble adjusting to this.
Brady has high expectartions and Lloyd clearly, VERY CLEARLY was the best FA WR move BB has made since they found Gaffney in October of 2006.
Ironically, Brady is less accurate and consistent to the perimeter of the field and DEEP than he was in 2006.
Brady was a better QB in 2006 than he is now. Yep. Truth. Some of it might be age, the injury still sits in the back of his mind, etc, but if I am the coach (BB), the OC, the other offenseive coaches, I am in there practicing with the NEW WRs in FA and the draft on perimeter based routes, 10 yards+ downfield over and over in camp, mostly from under center, until everyone is nailing them, even if blindfolded.
Been a HUGE, huge problem since Brady has overused the shotgun and became spoled with Moss/Welker or then Gronk/Hern/Welker.
He's all but created this stigma that he has to have two Mosses on the outside or he's not going to even look to the X side of the field.
Truth. There's a reason why the X position in particular has been an issue. He doesn't look there much, mostly because Welker gets open so fast, so he doesn't have to.
Bad habits are hard to break, but BB is trying to get them to break.
why dont you read and understand what I said. Lloyds production was fine for a 4th option. But he is no longer on the team for a reason, and his dead money is sitting there. As I said, the problem should have been addressed properly last year so that the Pats were not again in the same position.
go look at your list of WR's...meanwhile Lloyd is not here and neither is Hopkins. Jenkins doesnt make the team. Jones missed the last 4 games of last season with a kidney issue. Pats guaranteed zero salary so they dont know either if he will play or not.
I also said keep blaming Brady...we all expect it. meanwhile your love BB blew it last year in free agency, and while this year looks better, due to age these signings are no sure thing
while the draft is deep with WR's, there are no projected sure stars, especially #29 and later. look at last years WR's chosen in the first 2 rounds, which ones had any impact on their teams in year 1?
Blackmon, Floyd, Wright, Jenkins, Hill, Alshon, Randle. Thats the type of production you are drafting in rounds 2 or 3, and thats if they can gain Bradys trust.
now go back to blaming Brady, and why dont you admit signing Lloyd was a mistake, based on his no longer being on the team (not the number of catches or yards he had)