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Stoked About The D...
posted at 8/20/2011 9:11 PM EDT
- BubbaInHawaii
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Granted, the safeties are still having some problems - but the pick ups on D and the possibilities arising from a change in BBs schemes are summarized pretty well in this article. Last year, the offense improved by going back to using TEs for more than just blocking. The addition of some solid DLs will help mask our secondary probs. Can't wait for regular season games
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Re: Stoked About The D...
posted at 8/20/2011 9:16 PM EDT
- 49Patriots
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Me two!
I hope...
Wright - Wilfork - Haynesworth - Carter
are our starting DL when the season starts. If so, it's gonna be trouble! -
Re: Stoked About The D...
posted at 8/20/2011 9:35 PM EDT
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Or: Ellis-Wilfork-Haynesworth-Carter
And Moore has certainly shown us something with his quickness. -
Re: Stoked About The D...
posted at 8/20/2011 10:16 PM EDT
- tcal2-
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There's still and opportunity to improve at safety with cut downs coming. -
Re: Stoked About The D...
posted at 8/20/2011 10:18 PM EDT
- PatsFanGermany
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What is the record for the number of sacks in a season by one team? Because i think we could beat that number this year. I'm dead serious.
I think this team could average 5 per game for a season total of 80. Easy. -
Re: Stoked About The D...
posted at 8/20/2011 10:20 PM EDT
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The 1984 Bears had 72 sacks that season. An NFL record. -
Re: Stoked About The D...
posted at 8/20/2011 10:22 PM EDT
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no one is going to have ten sacks! how would the team possible get to 80 -
Re: Stoked About The D...
posted at 8/20/2011 10:35 PM EDT
- BubbaInHawaii
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In Response to Re: Stoked About The D...:There's still and opportunity to improve at safety with cut downs coming.
Posted by tcal2-
This is true, but even if we don't I think the Pats are in very good shape. My fav part is what BB will do with Mayo -
Re: Stoked About The D...
posted at 8/20/2011 10:41 PM EDT
- tcal2-
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In Response to Re: Stoked About The D...:In Response to Re: Stoked About The D... : This is true, but even if we don't I think the Pats are in very good shape. My fav part is what BB will do with Mayo
Posted by BubbaInHawaii
I agree Bubba, Mayo was spectacular. I hope this new role of him rushing the passer sticks. -
Re: Stoked About The D...
posted at 8/20/2011 11:35 PM EDT
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Considering how good our offense has been in the past, the D should have the opportunity this year to just pin it's ears back and get after the passer. They had the chance to do that last year, but couldn't get within shouting distance of the QB...leading to closer games than needed. -
Re: Stoked About The D...
posted at 8/21/2011 12:32 AM EDT
- BubbaInHawaii
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In Response to Re: Stoked About The D...:Considering how good our offense has been in the past, the D should have the opportunity this year to just pin it's ears back and get after the passer. They had the chance to do that last year, but couldn't get within shouting distance of the QB...leading to closer games than needed.
Posted by mthurl
In the scenario where our offense sputters, I have more confidence that our D will have a better chance of getting off the field on 3rd and long situations and give the offense another opportunity. It'll be interesting to see if a better pass rush in the form of QB pressure will result in more INTs. I am hoping to see a ripple effect with both the LB corp and secondary. -
Re: Stoked About The D...
posted at 8/21/2011 6:34 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: Stoked About The D...:no one is going to have ten sacks! how would the team possible get to 80
Posted by patthepatriot666
I'm sorry, what the hell are you talking about? -
Re: Stoked About The D...
posted at 8/21/2011 7:46 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: Stoked About The D...:In Response to Re: Stoked About The D... : I agree Bubba, Mayo was spectacular. I hope this new role of him rushing the passer sticks.
Posted by tcal2-
Even if team start focusing on Mayo - I'm sure that BB will use him as a decoy and we'll get pressure from someone else. BB is going to keep people guessing this year...lol. -
Re: Stoked About The D...
posted at 8/21/2011 7:58 AM EDT
- donspartucus
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In Response to Re: Stoked About The D...:The 1984 Bears had 72 sacks that season. An NFL record.
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You mean the 85 Bears. -
Re: Stoked About The D...
posted at 8/21/2011 8:30 AM EDT
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I agree with you guys, the sack count could be record type numbers but don't forget the other benefit.....stopping the run. If you make teams one dimensional and force them to throw........quick because of the rush the corners play will increase.
I've been saying this for a while.....Revis is good, that pass rush he had made him great. Now we get to sit back and watch McCourty go from good to great this year and have a better season than Revis! -
Re: Stoked About The D...
posted at 8/21/2011 9:05 AM EDT
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Anyone know what is wrong with ex-BC Ron Brace? No appearances in training camp work this pre-season. Will he be cut? -
Re: Stoked About The D...
posted at 8/21/2011 9:24 AM EDT
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I think in an ideal world you'd like to provide a rush with as little amount of guys as possible. Last year they could send 6 guys and they wouldn't get there (it was amazing). Just by watching and hearing things from camp, we might be able to apply really decent pressure with just four guys..Carter, Haynesworth, Wilfork, and whoever they put on the right side. Barring injury, this could be a better defense than the ones that won all those super bowls. -
Re: Stoked About The D...
posted at 8/21/2011 10:11 AM EDT
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In Response to Re: Stoked About The D...:I think in an ideal world you'd like to provide a rush with as little amount of guys as possible. Last year they could send 6 guys and they wouldn't get there (it was amazing). Just by watching and hearing things from camp, we might be able to apply really decent pressure with just four guys..Carter, Haynesworth, Wilfork, and whoever they put on the right side. Barring injury, this could be a better defense than the ones that won all those super bowls.
Posted by mthurl
I would agree with you. The beauty is that BB can have quite a few different looks this year vs. the last 3-4 years. -
Re: Stoked About The D...
posted at 8/21/2011 10:30 AM EDT
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In Response to Stoked About The D...:Granted, the safeties are still having some problems - but the pick ups on D and the possibilities arising from a change in BBs schemes are summarized pretty well in this article. Last year, the offense improved by going back to using TEs for more than just blocking. The addition of some solid DLs will help mask our secondary probs. Can't wait for regular season games http://bostonherald.com/sports/columnists/view.bg?articleid=1360081&position=1
Posted by BubbaInHawaii
Yeah...the "D" looks good now, against two offensively challenged teams. But, we still have no idea if Albert Haynesworth will be a positive addition, though my gut feeling is that he will be. The secondary looks thin at safety, where Patrick Chung must begin to show at least adequate coverage skills. At CB, 33rd overall draft pick Ras-I Dowling has taken up where he left off in college...on the sidelines nursing yet another injury...and Darius Butler appears to be on his way to being released.
As good as the "D" has looked so far, it's how it looks in January that counts:
http://www.projo.com/patriots/content/donaldson_on_patriots_preseason_08-21-11_D5PS.2a4aa8c.html -
Re: Stoked About The D...
posted at 8/21/2011 12:07 PM EDT
- BubbaInHawaii
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In Response to Re: Stoked About The D...:In Response to Stoked About The D... : Yeah...the "D" looks good now, against two offensively challenged teams. But, we still have no idea if Albert Haynesworth will be a positive addition, though my gut feeling is that he will be. The secondary looks thin at safety, where Patrick Chung must begin to show at least adequate coverage skills. At CB, 33rd overall draft pick Ras-I Dowling has taken up where he left off in college...on the sidelines nursing yet another injury...and Darius Butler appears to be on his way to being released. As good as the "D" has looked so far, it's how it looks in January that counts: http://www.projo.com/patriots/content/donaldson_on_patriots_preseason_08-21-11_D5PS.2a4aa8c.html
Posted by TexasPat3
That's the kewl thing is that Haynesworth hasn't even played yet. Besides, the question is whether we are in a better position defensively than the past several years. I would say yes. -
Re: Stoked About The D...
posted at 8/21/2011 6:20 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: Stoked About The D...:In Response to Stoked About The D... : Yeah...the "D" looks good now, against two offensively challenged teams. But, we still have no idea if Albert Haynesworth will be a positive addition, though my gut feeling is that he will be. The secondary looks thin at safety, where Patrick Chung must begin to show at least adequate coverage skills. At CB, 33rd overall draft pick Ras-I Dowling has taken up where he left off in college...on the sidelines nursing yet another injury...and Darius Butler appears to be on his way to being released. As good as the "D" has looked so far, it's how it looks in January that counts: http://www.projo.com/patriots/content/donaldson_on_patriots_preseason_08-21-11_D5PS.2a4aa8c.html
Posted by TexasPat3
is tampa offensively challenged? they supposedly have one of the better quarterbacks in the game and supposedly one of the best young coaches.
i dont know if we'll face a more elusive quarterback than we did with those 2 for tampa. -
Re: Stoked About The D...
posted at 8/21/2011 6:25 PM EDT
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THIS IS WHAT MYSELF AND A FEW OTHERS WERE CALLING FOR FOR A COUPLE YEARS
this is what myself and a few others were calling for for a couple years.
www.boston.com/community/persona.html?UID=bba70554b4af8340da255e2e9c7fe5d9&plckUserId=bba70554b4af8340da255e2e9c7fe5d9"> GETTING THE PLAYERS who can pressure the quarterback and therefore defend the pass better. the only thing thats been keeping us from a super bowl.
TILL NOW.....
to wit in one half of one game:
nine quarterback pressures, eight QB hits, two sacks (both by Mayo), one quarterback knockdown, one tackle for a loss, two holding penalties, and one false start. That’s a total of 24 in 28 offensive plays by the Buccaneers.
with injuries looks like we will need some mlb help.
and we may still need to be concerned about or change meriweather at safety.
get ras i healthy and some experience so he can be the 3rd db out on the field as he can cover (defend passes), arrington can only be there to tackle at best.