Re: Suck for Luck Sweepstakes
posted at 10/1/2011 4:15 AM EDT
In Response to Re: Suck for Luck Sweepstakes
[QUOTE] Dog(gggg) " How in the world would you know whether or not they had the horses? 2 years ago they were in the SB. Last year they were the most injured team in the NFL, and should have beaten the Jets (more than I can say for the pats). With a little health and Manning, I don't see any reason why they couldn't have been considered a contender. Already this year the run offense and run defense have performed better. In fact, the only thing that has been terrible is the pass offense. I think Manning could have had a positive impact on that, but hey, what do I know, right" RESPONSE: The Colts without Manning are the worst team in the league. But, if you want to live in a fantasy world and make believe all would be well if only Peyton's neck still had some elasticity, so be it! You are such a hapless homer...LOL!!! Hapless? Sorry if I don't think the colts are the worst team in the league without Manning. Nothing about the colts run o and d being better than its been? Then you said: "I'll see if I can't get Polian to give you ring so that you may provide him with your expert analysis. I am sure he's interested." RESPONSE: Sigh...I try to be civil and engage in a football discussion with you, and you have to respond with snide remarks and sarcasm...oh well. So, I take it then that you disagree about Luck being the best QB prospect since Peyton. True or false? You haven't tried to be civil in months, and your first response wasn't anything close to civil, so I don't know why you spend time trying to convince everyone else that you are something you clearly are not. And as for Luck, his hype certainly is greater than there has been for a QB in quite sometime. If hype is reality then I'd say you are right. You said, " We'll only know next year whether or not he'll be able to play again with any effectiveness. I am sure the Colts will evaluate his capability in the offseason." RESPONSE: Can the Colts' afford to gamble again on the health of a 36 year old QB, coming off three neck surgeries? I think the colts will do what they think is best for the team. If Manning is 90-95% of himself that still makes him better than anything else they could get. Further, I don't see evaluating his capability in the offseason as a gamble. Please explain why you do? You said, in response to my comment that the Colts should move on from Manning, " Couldn't disagree more. If Manning turns out to be healthy and just as capable as before, the colts would immediately become SB contenders again. Moving on guarantees that won't happen." RESPONSE: Again, you're living in a fantasy world. The Colts' OL is mediocre at best. The best player on their OL, Jeff Saturday, will be 35 next season. MLB Gary Brackett looks done. DEs Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis are on the down-sides of their careers, as are TE Dallas Clark, and WR Reggie Wayne. The Colts' secondary is in worse shape than the Patriots' secondary. What are the odds that Peyton returns in 2012, as good as new? Isn't it as likely that he'll never play again...or won't be as effective as in years past? If the Colts get the #1 pick in 2012, don't you agree that they should take Luck? Lets see - the colts drafted 2 players they hope will be the start of a future line. One is starting right now. Yes there are other issues, but no one is perfect everywhere. Brackett's replacement is currently playing, had 20+ tackles last week and looks great. Someone forgot to tell Freeney and Mathis they were getting old last week. At 35 Manning will be anything but "as good as new". All he needs to be is as good as Manning in 2010 or 90% of that. I think it makes sense to take luck if they have the #1 pick, unless Manning has proven that he is in excellent condition with no ill effects. You than said, " I am willing to bet that the colts won't even be in the Luck sweepstakes unless they trade up for the opportunity, which wouldn't even be possible since no one is giving away that pick." RESPONSE: Really? How many games do you expect the Colts to win this season? 5-6. I think they win this week. You than continued, "If the colts were to draft Andrew Luck, I don't see a better opportunity for him than to learn from the best QB in the game." RESPONSE: First of all, we both know that Tom Brady is the best QB in the game. Secondly, how will the Colts be able to keep Peyton, while at the same time paying Luck "Cam Newton" money? That would mean that well over 25% of their cap space would be allocated to the QB position. First comment - debateable. Cam Newton Money is significantly less than Sam Bradford Money. Besides, as I said, I don't think they'll be in that position. If they are, we'll see. You closed by saying, " I think the colts beat Tampa this week." RESPONSE: That's not out of the realm of possibility. But, I think it's more likely that the Colts lose, but cover the 10 point spread. Could be. Next, you asked, " Question for your TP - If the pats could draft by giving up Brady, would you do it?" RESPONSE: Unlike you, I'll give you a straight answer. First of all, your question doesn't really make sense as written. But, I'll assume that you meant to ask, "if the Pats could trade Brady straight up for the rights to Luck, would I do it?" My response would be no, for the following reasons: 1.) Brady is the league's best QB...and shows no signs of his skills diminishing; Has Manning shown diminishing skills? 2.) Unlike the Indy QB situation, the Patriots' have talented reserve QBs, Brian Hoyer and Ryan Mallett, being groomed to some day take over for Tom; How do you know they are talented? Further, assuming they are talented, how do you know they can perform when the time comes? 3.) Unlike Peyton, Tom appears to be healthy. But, if Tom had Peyton's neck troubles, I'd do the deal; ok 4.) Tom is a leader, and still dedicated to winning. And Manning is not? Sorry for the typo - trying to do too many things at once. If the pats could select Luck, should they. No qualifications. Simply yes or no.
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I can see that you wish to remain the same rude, ignorant jerk that I remember. So be it. I'm not playing your childish little posting games any more. I've answered your question, clearly and concisely. Go post to yourself.