Re: Tamba Hali Of The Chiefs Is The Free Agent Answer To Patriot Pass Rush.....
posted at 1/25/2011 1:40 AM EST
In Response to Re: Tamba Hali Of The Chiefs Is The Free Agent Answer To Patriot Pass Rush.....
[QUOTE]why not just go after lamar woodley? he's 10x better than hali in pass coverage, and still brings a heavy pass rush.
Posted by ricky12684[/QUOTE]
LaMarr Woodley, to me at least, simply isn't a "gamer." Now, I know that's an ambiguous term... By "gamer", I mean: An NFL Player who WILL do a great number of those underrated (but, for me EXTREMELY Important)-Little things I want my IDEAL 3-4 Outside Linebacker TOO do... EXAMPLE of 2 "GAMERS
Dallas's Demarcus Ware
=More Total Tackles than Woodley, Usually MUCH better in Passes Defensed (except for some reason in '10), Good Team Player who actually RE-upped with Dallas at a Price, which imho was a VERY good bargain for the 'boys, and finally Excellent @ Forced Fumbles... NOW, that last FF category, much like the TT category, is simply vastly underrated, but to me, It's Impossible to UNDER-rate TT's and especially FF's; To me, that says, THIS guy WILL play hard AND heads-up football, Over and Above EVERYthing else (RE: He is NOT merely looking for the espn highlight sack). Drop back in coverage, strip the football, get his shirt dirty against the run=He wants to stop the other team for His Team...He wants TO W-I-N.
Pittsburgh's James Harrison
=My FAVORITE "Gamer." IF I wasn't heterosexual, and IF I didn't honestly believe that Harrison wouldn't kill me 1 Spring day, just for the he!! of it...I'd marry 'im. Yes, I love him that much... The fact that in 2010, Harrison pretty much stuck it ta Roger Goodell all season long, by continuing to play like a blood-thirsty man on a mission, Actually MAKES him that much MORE appealing than when I wanted to propose ta him for the last 4 or 5 years prior (j/k). Ain't even right that he'll be 33 yrs old, and goin' into his 9th NFL Season (makin' him, not quite the best choice to shore up NE's OLB spot long term)... ZERO WEAKNESSES (can also be read as ZERO things that Harrison OVER-focuses his game on, in lieu of something else)...Simply check out Harrison's total stats since he finally became a full-time Starting OLB for the 'steel (4 years totaled): TT's: 378 (IN-sane @ OLB)/ PD's: 13 with 4 INTs (very solid)/ FF's: 25 (In just 4 years...freakin' absurd)/ Sacks: 45 (In 4 years, usually never the #1 sack-artist, just seemingly ONLY top 5-8...AL-ways). Always in on play, and hits like a freight train (Incredible Football IQ AND An Intimidator...precisely what I'd look for).
: Tamba Hali
...Imo, the guy DOES have very similiar Total OLB Qualities as Ware and Harrison. Mainly what I knew about Hali (of course), Were the things I recalled when he was Drafted by KC in the 2006 NFL Draft... 2 things specifically here- I remember Hali had a Fantastic Senior Bowl, and I believe was MVP for his side (which considerably rose his draft stock); Also, I recall the big "fallback" on him (according to NFL scouts), was that he was simply too bulky, & too slow to ever translate to the OLB spot in an NFL 3-4 Defense (great call Guys!). Remember He came from some war-torn Country & everyone liked his high motor and good upfield-runnin' nose for the ball, BUT that he was much better with his hand in the dirt & not asked to play in space (even had a pretty high mid 4.8's 40 time...which, of course, A high 40 didn't deter me last year on Spikes's instincts, but I guess in 2006 these were the days that I still respected Mel Kiper as a Draft Analyst);
Anyway, the strange irony of the Scouts's initial take was that BE-fore KC transfered to a 3-4 Defense, Hali (at least imo) Did NOT live up to his mid 1st Rd Draft Selection... Pretty sure Hali was a DE for KC for some time, and his side would get run-on pretty frequently. Of course, sorta hard ta judge your overall skill level when ya play on an ENTIRE team that svx, for your first few seasons.
Again though, They talk about Collegiate DE-NFL 3-4 OLB, 'tweeners, But the oddity is that Hali IS sorta an NFL 'tweener: Remember he was a BIG-boy (weight-wise) to even seemingly hope to have that requisite 3-4 OLB speed, yet as a 4-3 DE, He always seemed sorta undersized to me... And then when I just checked, Hali is listed at barely 6'3 and now upwards of the low 280lb range...crazy as a 3-4 OLB.
AND yet, It appears to have worked for him... The good news is that to me, It sorta shows a good work-attitude/ethic, when one overcomes this... The good/bad news, Is that in all honesty, I personally don't know too much RE: Hali's "Intangibles" (off-field/team-first mentality/football IQ)... Also good/bad, I DO feel Hali's on the rise, but imho, the jury's still out on what you're TRULLY gettin' with him, bein' that he only just made that DE-OLB transfer 1-2 years ago, and that he's only been in league for 6 seasons (which again, Bad/Good: Unlike Wares' something like 7 or 8 seasons & Harrison's something crazy like 9 seasons, you're ideally getting someone just hitting their stride & on upswing of career);~
ANYone got info on Hali's off-field/intangible qualities, please feel free to share (idk)...