Tavon Wilson

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    The dreadful play of Steven Gregory got me thinking of the second round draft bust Tavon Wilson (did we really draft this guy in the second?).

    The trickle down effect of our safety position reads like a comedy...we sign Gregory, then draft Tavon because it took all of ten minutes to realize Gregory wasn't any good, then we sign A. Wilson because T. Wilson shows he's going to be a bust, then we draft Harmon with the thought that A. Wilson might not have much left in the tank (when in reality he had nothing in the tank). Then there was Chung, our other second round safety bust who couldn't cover or tackle anyone without dislocating some part of his body and looked like he needed to eat a sandwich. And of course we moved our first round corner - who couldn't play corner - to safety where we are learning that he cannot tackle and do things a safety can do. So what does this mean? It means we wasted a lot of resources and will have to waste some more. It means that although our corners are holding up ok our safeties stink...again.

    In my opinion the tackling of that bunch today was horrendous and no better than it's ever been. How long is this going to go on? How many more resources are going to be wasted before we find guys that can play safety? By my count we have dumped two 2nds, a first, a third and somewhere around 9 million in free agent money on that spot recently. Which I guess is better than 94 million in free agent contract money on our tightend position (Gronk, Hern, Schiancoe, fells, Ballard)....these things add up...these things kill franchises...most GMs get fired for this stuff, right or wrong.

    Thank god we have Brady and Belichick the coach to get us into the playoffs where some team will punch us in the face...at home...like last year.

     
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    So we are going to bring up every sore subject tonight

     
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    Tavon Wilson is so deep on the depth chart Robert Ballard couldn't find him with a fleet of submersibles.

     
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    So we are going to bring up every sore subject tonight

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    "You can never have enough DBs" - Andy Gresh

    Mt Hurl does not understand the NFL. He doesn't get that injuries are on the rise with rule changes, it's an offensive era, etc. He just doesn't get it. He didn't know what the lockout meant, why it happaned, what a CBA or a salary cap means.

    He's a Home Ec teacher with a high school diploma, so it's what you'd expect.

     

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    Better than an unemployed basement dweller trying for his GED. Condescending and patronizing is what you do best. Shameful bro.

     
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    In response to DeadAhead's comment:
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    So we are going to bring up every sore subject tonight

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    "You can never have enough DBs" - Andy Gresh

    Mt Hurl does not understand the NFL. He doesn't get that injuries are on the rise with rule changes, it's an offensive era, etc. He just doesn't get it. He didn't know what the lockout meant, why it happaned, what a CBA or a salary cap means.

    He's a Home Ec teacher with a high school diploma, so it's what you'd expect.

     

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    Andy Gresh? You got to be kidding me, the guy just said Hightower is good in coverage...he just said that two hours ago. And you can never have enough good dbs, but when you draft bad ones...over and over, it hurts you.

    Hey you sober up from the Christmas party yet? You get a chance to watch the game yet?

     
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    Belichick has no clue about drafting CB's , Safeties, or WR's.

     

    Whoever disagrees with that is a fool.

    Pete Carrol managed to build an elite defense.  Somehow he managed to find Sherman in the 5th round.  Belichick just loves to draft midget CB"s or injury prone ones.

     

    This is a 3-13 football team being rescued by an all time great QB. A QB which has so little to work with, it is almost mind boggling how the Patriots offense manages to do well.  He has bottom 5 WR talent out there. 

     
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    In response to Spetznaz24's comment:
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    Belichick has no clue about drafting CB's , Safeties, or WR's.

     

    Whoever disagrees with that is a fool.

    Pete Carrol managed to build an elite defense.  Somehow he managed to find Sherman in the 5th round.  Belichick just loves to draft midget CB"s or injury prone ones.

     

    This is a 3-13 football team being rescued by an all time great QB. A QB which has so little to work with, it is almost mind boggling how the Patriots offense manages to do well.  He has bottom 5 WR talent out there. 

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    Personally I think the last five years as GM have been poor...too many misses, too many mistakes...all covered up by great coaching and even better quarterback play.

     
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    In response to mthurl's comment:
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    The dreadful play of Steven Gregory got me thinking of the second round draft bust Tavon Wilson (did we really draft this guy in the second?).

    The trickle down effect of our safety position reads like a comedy...we sign Gregory, then draft Tavon because it took all of ten minutes to realize Gregory wasn't any good, then we sign A. Wilson because T. Wilson shows he's going to be a bust, then we draft Harmon with the thought that A. Wilson might not have much left in the tank (when in reality he had nothing in the tank). Then there was Chung, our other second round safety bust who couldn't cover or tackle anyone without dislocating some part of his body and looked like he needed to eat a sandwich. And of course we moved our first round corner - who couldn't play corner - to safety where we are learning that he cannot tackle and do things a safety can do. So what does this mean? It means we wasted a lot of resources and will have to waste some more. It means that although our corners are holding up ok our safeties stink...again.

    In my opinion the tackling of that bunch today was horrendous and no better than it's ever been. How long is this going to go on? How many more resources are going to be wasted before we find guys that can play safety? By my count we have dumped two 2nds, a first, a third and somewhere around 9 million in free agent money on that spot recently. Which I guess is better than 94 million in free agent contract money on our tightend position (Gronk, Hern, Schiancoe, fells, Ballard)....these things add up...these things kill franchises...most GMs get fired for this stuff, right or wrong.

    Thank god we have Brady and Belichick the coach to get us into the playoffs where some team will punch us in the face...at home...like last year.

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    even the most die hard patriots homer can not justify the tavon wilson pick in the second round ..ouch..  look at that draft and see some of the players taken after him and it will really ruin your day.

    i agree that we win mostly because of brady and belichick the coach.

     
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    How the heck to you leave out first round draft bust Maryweather?  The best footwork that dude ever displayed was stomping that Central Florida guy that was laying on the ground.

     
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    How the heck to you leave out first round draft bust Maryweather?  The best footwork that dude ever displayed was stomping that Central Florida guy that was laying on the ground.

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    My bad, I didn't want to go that far back...props to the big bang clock.

     
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    Best draft yield in the NFL since 2010??? Love it! Hilarious! Hey did you read that from some website like when you told us all that Merriweather was the second best safety in the AFC? Hey rust...news flash, just because some of our draft picks are still on the roster and some are actually "starting" means squat. How's the yield on Tavon Wilson? How's the yield on Bequette? How's the yield on Gronk heading into three post seasons now? Because he's the best we've drafted in five years by far and he's done. How did draft risk hernandez work out? Just why did we pay him 45 million? Cunningham still on the yield chart? How about Brace? Is there another position change in store for McCourty...how about cover linebacker, that didn't work out too well for free agent bust Adrian Wilson. Hey no worries, Harmon will get his chance to be exposed soon enough! How's Justin Francis doing lately? No worries, he doesn't effect draft yield! Lol! Neither will Jones and Vellano when one (or both are cut next year when Armstead comes back from never playing). Hey losing porn star Brandon Spikes to free agency will kill some of that yield, but you can't keep the guy, he doesn't work out with the team (works on his coverage skills in Florida during the off season..remember that one?)...meanwhile hasn't made a play since Buffalo. Did we even draft Arrington...hope not, it will kill yield. D you get yield points for drops?? If we do we'll be yielding out our butts. Vereen yields his brains out every time he goes down with injury. Ridley gets yielding like crazy every time the ball gets knocked out of his arms...no one yields like him.

    This the yield you talking about? You get that on pro football focus? I've got to go there, maybe they can tell me about salary cap hell.

     
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    On a happier note Pittsburgh is whipping Cincy tonight. :) 

    This is a good year to have a not so great AFC team. We're not done.

     
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    Hooman with a gorgeous TD catch.  It is mindboggling the excuses pink hats like you give Brady.

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    His first since 2010.  This is who Tom Brady has been reduced to throwing the ball to.

     
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    In response to DeadAhead's comment:
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    Belichick has no clue about drafting CB's , Safeties, or WR's.

     

    Whoever disagrees with that is a fool.

    Pete Carrol managed to build an elite defense.  Somehow he managed to find Sherman in the 5th round.  Belichick just loves to draft midget CB"s or injury prone ones.

     

    This is a 3-13 football team being rescued by an all time great QB. A QB which has so little to work with, it is almost mind boggling how the Patriots offense manages to do well.  He has bottom 5 WR talent out there. 

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    Probably the most ridiculus post in here in the last 4 hours, which is saying something.

    Amendola and Edelman are putting up their numbers most of the time this season without Gronk.

    Welker never did what he did without a HOF caliber player alongside him.

    Edelman>>>Welker (right now).

    Hooman with a gorgeous TD catch.  It is mindboggling the excuses pink hats like you give Brady.

    You wash his balls with glee one week when  he was awful for an entire 2.5 qtrs, but he helps make up for it, so you gloss over it.

    Today, he fiddled pleny with his diddle for 2 qtrs easy and you act like he's owed that amount of time becauase of WHO he is, at the expense of our defense.

    Sorry, jig is up. Brady can't be given this much leeway and not getting this team into the end zone.

    Down 7 in the 4th and 33 passes to 3 runs is unacceptable behavior. It's clearly not all about Brady and never has been.

    To discount the people around him means you have some mental illness.

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    Words cannot explain how much of an idiot you are.  Although, these words do a decent job, they're yours. "Down 7 in the 4th and 33 passes to 3 runs is unacceptable behavior"

    Hmmm down 7..... what happens next with all those passes? Brady scores 10 unanswered...and you complain about Brady giving the Pats the lead?  What a complete moron.  Then what happens?  The D immediately gives up a 60 yard TD drive including a 4th & 5 conversion.  This was becasue of Brady's passing?  Are you for real?  The final drive was 13 passes.  How many runs were you hoping for in the minute left on the clock?  

    How you blame Brady and his 105 rating is beyond any reasonable person.  Learn the game.

     
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    In response to DeadAhead's comment:
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    In response to Spetznaz24's comment:
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    Belichick has no clue about drafting CB's , Safeties, or WR's.

     

    Whoever disagrees with that is a fool.

    Pete Carrol managed to build an elite defense.  Somehow he managed to find Sherman in the 5th round.  Belichick just loves to draft midget CB"s or injury prone ones.

     

    This is a 3-13 football team being rescued by an all time great QB. A QB which has so little to work with, it is almost mind boggling how the Patriots offense manages to do well.  He has bottom 5 WR talent out there. 

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    Probably the most ridiculus post in here in the last 4 hours, which is saying something.

    Amendola and Edelman are putting up their numbers most of the time this season without Gronk.

    Welker never did what he did without a HOF caliber player alongside him.

    Edelman>>>Welker (right now).

    Hooman with a gorgeous TD catch.  It is mindboggling the excuses pink hats like you give Brady.

    You wash his balls with glee one week when  he was awful for an entire 2.5 qtrs, but he helps make up for it, so you gloss over it.

    Today, he fiddled pleny with his diddle for 2 qtrs easy and you act like he's owed that amount of time becauase of WHO he is, at the expense of our defense.

    Sorry, jig is up. Brady can't be given this much leeway and not getting this team into the end zone.

    Down 7 in the 4th and 33 passes to 3 runs is unacceptable behavior. It's clearly not all about Brady and never has been.

    To discount the people around him means you have some mental illness.

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    Actually Welker had a good year in Miami the year before he became a restricted free agent. Welker produced when Moss was traded during the season so you might wanna get your facts straight before trying to discredit one of the all time great slot receivers. Edelman may be having a great year but lets keep in mind this is the first year he's been productive as a WR over a season. Welker's done it for years and if not injuried now would still be doing it. I'd trust Welker's health by the postseason before Amendola's which has been suspect since he's stepped on the field as a Pro.

     
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    In response to DeadAhead's comment:
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    In response to Spetznaz24's comment:
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    Belichick has no clue about drafting CB's , Safeties, or WR's.

     

    Whoever disagrees with that is a fool.

    Pete Carrol managed to build an elite defense.  Somehow he managed to find Sherman in the 5th round.  Belichick just loves to draft midget CB"s or injury prone ones.

     

    This is a 3-13 football team being rescued by an all time great QB. A QB which has so little to work with, it is almost mind boggling how the Patriots offense manages to do well.  He has bottom 5 WR talent out there. 

    [/QUOTE]

    Probably the most ridiculus post in here in the last 4 hours, which is saying something.

    Amendola and Edelman are putting up their numbers most of the time this season without Gronk.

    Welker never did what he did without a HOF caliber player alongside him.

    Edelman>>>Welker (right now).

    Hooman with a gorgeous TD catch.  It is mindboggling the excuses pink hats like you give Brady.

    You wash his balls with glee one week when  he was awful for an entire 2.5 qtrs, but he helps make up for it, so you gloss over it.

    Today, he fiddled pleny with his diddle for 2 qtrs easy and you act like he's owed that amount of time becauase of WHO he is, at the expense of our defense.

    Sorry, jig is up. Brady can't be given this much leeway and not getting this team into the end zone.

    Down 7 in the 4th and 33 passes to 3 runs is unacceptable behavior. It's clearly not all about Brady and never has been.

    To discount the people around him means you have some mental illness.

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    Are you again suggesting that some different run/pass ratio was called in from the coaches and Brady changed the plays?  Oh my!

     
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    another 2nd round bust

     
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    In response to ANumber1Roy's comment:
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    In response to DeadAhead's comment:
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    In response to Spetznaz24's comment:
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    Belichick has no clue about drafting CB's , Safeties, or WR's.

     

    Whoever disagrees with that is a fool.

    Pete Carrol managed to build an elite defense.  Somehow he managed to find Sherman in the 5th round.  Belichick just loves to draft midget CB"s or injury prone ones.

     

    This is a 3-13 football team being rescued by an all time great QB. A QB which has so little to work with, it is almost mind boggling how the Patriots offense manages to do well.  He has bottom 5 WR talent out there. 

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    Probably the most ridiculus post in here in the last 4 hours, which is saying something.

    Amendola and Edelman are putting up their numbers most of the time this season without Gronk.

    Welker never did what he did without a HOF caliber player alongside him.

    Edelman>>>Welker (right now).

    Hooman with a gorgeous TD catch.  It is mindboggling the excuses pink hats like you give Brady.

    You wash his balls with glee one week when  he was awful for an entire 2.5 qtrs, but he helps make up for it, so you gloss over it.

    Today, he fiddled pleny with his diddle for 2 qtrs easy and you act like he's owed that amount of time becauase of WHO he is, at the expense of our defense.

    Sorry, jig is up. Brady can't be given this much leeway and not getting this team into the end zone.

    Down 7 in the 4th and 33 passes to 3 runs is unacceptable behavior. It's clearly not all about Brady and never has been.

    To discount the people around him means you have some mental illness.

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    Actually Welker had a good year in Miami the year before he became a restricted free agent. Welker produced when Moss was traded during the season so you might wanna get your facts straight before trying to discredit one of the all time great slot receivers. Edelman may be having a great year but lets keep in mind this is the first year he's been productive as a WR over a season. Welker's done it for years and if not injuried now would still be doing it. I'd trust Welker's health by the postseason before Amendola's which has been suspect since he's stepped on the field as a Pro.

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    Julian and Danny have their best years in front of them, WW behind.

     
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    In response to MoreRings' comment:
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    In response to ANumber1Roy's comment:
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    In response to DeadAhead's comment:
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    Belichick has no clue about drafting CB's , Safeties, or WR's.

     

    Whoever disagrees with that is a fool.

    Pete Carrol managed to build an elite defense.  Somehow he managed to find Sherman in the 5th round.  Belichick just loves to draft midget CB"s or injury prone ones.

     

    This is a 3-13 football team being rescued by an all time great QB. A QB which has so little to work with, it is almost mind boggling how the Patriots offense manages to do well.  He has bottom 5 WR talent out there. 

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    Probably the most ridiculus post in here in the last 4 hours, which is saying something.

    Amendola and Edelman are putting up their numbers most of the time this season without Gronk.

    Welker never did what he did without a HOF caliber player alongside him.

    Edelman>>>Welker (right now).

    Hooman with a gorgeous TD catch.  It is mindboggling the excuses pink hats like you give Brady.

    You wash his balls with glee one week when  he was awful for an entire 2.5 qtrs, but he helps make up for it, so you gloss over it.

    Today, he fiddled pleny with his diddle for 2 qtrs easy and you act like he's owed that amount of time becauase of WHO he is, at the expense of our defense.

    Sorry, jig is up. Brady can't be given this much leeway and not getting this team into the end zone.

    Down 7 in the 4th and 33 passes to 3 runs is unacceptable behavior. It's clearly not all about Brady and never has been.

    To discount the people around him means you have some mental illness.

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    Actually Welker had a good year in Miami the year before he became a restricted free agent. Welker produced when Moss was traded during the season so you might wanna get your facts straight before trying to discredit one of the all time great slot receivers. Edelman may be having a great year but lets keep in mind this is the first year he's been productive as a WR over a season. Welker's done it for years and if not injuried now would still be doing it. I'd trust Welker's health by the postseason before Amendola's which has been suspect since he's stepped on the field as a Pro.

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    Julian and Danny have their best years in front of them, WW behind.

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    Who will Julian be playing for?  The cap hell Pats?

     
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