TD to INT Ratio

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    I don't want to see anything less then 3:1.  2.5:1 at the very lowest.

     
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    Trap question.   It's a team game and these type of stats can be very misleading.  Just off the top of my head I knew Dan Marino, a HOF QB, had a ratio under 2.  I looked it up and it turned out to be 1.66.

     
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    Brady's usually 2-1 or better, but 1.8-1 is good enough. 

     
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    Brady has 334 touchdowns and 123 interceptions.  He probably has the best career ratio in NFL history but I have not been able to confirm that.  He certainly has the best record for a season--50 and 8 in 2007.  This  seems like a record that will never be broken.  This is  one area where Peyton Manning has not measured up to Brady--he has 436 touchdowns and 209 interceptions.    His ratio is much lower than Brady's. 

    I think 2:1 is usually considered very good--and desirable for modern quarterbacks. 

     
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    In response to BassFishingII's comment:

    What is your barometer for a good TD/INT ratio?  I'll start:

    2:1

     

    Discuss:



    it can depend on the amount of either so I ask you this little twist to think about:

    would you rather have 18 TD 3 INT  or  38 TD 24 INT ??

     

    i know there are a lot of variables but I mean this just at face value

     

     
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    Very good NFL seasons will see a quarterback have a TD to INT ratio of over 2 with elite seasons over 3.5.

     
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    In response to newenglanderinexile's comment:

     

    Brady has 334 touchdowns and 123 interceptions.  He probably has the best career ratio in NFL history but I have not been able to confirm that.  He certainly has the best record for a season--50 and 8 in 2007.  This  seems like a record that will never be broken.  This is  one area where Peyton Manning has not measured up to Brady--he has 436 touchdowns and 209 interceptions.    His ratio is much lower than Brady's. 

    I think 2:1 is usually considered very good--and desirable for modern quarterbacks. 

     



    Actually, since the topic was ratio, his 2010 season with 36 TDs and 4 INTs was better mathematically.  Like I said earlier, stats can be misleading.

     

     
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    No reason in this day and age why a good QB cannot have at least 2:1, Marino played when defenses were still allowed to look at WRs without drawing flags. Brady and Peyton both started in that type of game, but once the rules changes you saw both of their ratios improve. That's why the career ratio of someone like Rodgers is not all that impressive to me.

     
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    in modern nfl 2.5:1 its a good ratio

     
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    In response to BassFishingII's comment:

    Brady's playoff ratio since 2005 is nowhere near 2:1, folks.

    28 TDs 19 INTs.

    AFC title games since 2007 (at home):

    8 TDs 9 INTs

    A 2:1 ratio is just like a what you look for with a pitcher and the strikeout/walk ratio, which also targets at 2:1.

    I posted this thread to show why an 8:1 ratio in the regular season, for example in 2010, with a finesse, shotgun offense is somewhat pointless to run when it generates such a poor ratio in the postseason.

    No one is even asking for 6:1, 7:1, or even 8:1.

    Just give me 2:1 and a run game that you commit to in the fiirst half.

     




    What's the D's pick ratio in the playoffs compared to the regular season?  It was 2.4 per game in the rs.   What was it in the play-offs?  The 2 SB's?   OH, yea, ZILCH!

    Good defenses like the ones the Pats play in the post season get picks.  Bad ones don't!

    Picks are relative to ALL 22 players on the field at the time.  The QB,  the receivers, the O-line and the defenders they are playing, all have a part in picks.  Get it?

    Thanks for playing but your services are no longer needed.  Consider this your pink slip.

     
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    Troll

     
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    In response to FishTaco64's comment:

    No reason in this day and age why a good QB cannot have at least 2:1, Marino played when defenses were still allowed to look at WRs without drawing flags. Brady and Peyton both started in that type of game, but once the rules changes you saw both of their ratios improve. That's why the career ratio of someone like Rodgers is not all that impressive to me.




    ROT - rodgers is the best in the game and that's just to knock him

    imagine if he could stand back there and have a cup of coffee like Brady before throwing he would be even better!

     
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    In response to BassFishingII's comment:

    Brady's playoff ratio since 2005 is nowhere near 2:1, folks.

    Just give me 2:1 and a run game that you commit to in the fiirst half.



    Eli won the SB in 2007 with a 1.2:1 in 2007

    Eli won SB in 2011 with a 1.8:1 in 2011

    Flacco won SB last season with a 2.2:1

    Rothlisberger won the SB with a 1.1:1 in 2008

    Rogers won SB in 2010 with a 2.5:1

    Brees won a SB in 2009 with a 3:1

     

    None of these teams had great run offenses.

    Out of the last 6 Super Bowl winning teams the Patriots had more rushing yards 4 out of the 6 seasons then the winning SB team had.

     

    2012 Rushing Yards Pats 2184, SB winner Ravens 1901

    2011 Rushing yards Pats 1764, SB winner Giants 1427

    2010 Rushing Yards Pats 1973, SB winner Packers 1606

    2009 Rushing Yards Pats 1921, SB winner Saints 2106

    2008 Rushing Yards Pats 2278, SB winner Steelers 1690

    2007 Rushing Yards= Pats 1849, SB winner Giants 2148

     

    I don't get the point of this thread.  It's all about matchups on that given day.

    Rusty selling wolf tickets still.

     

     
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    In response to TFB12's comment:

    In response to BassFishingII's comment:

     

    Brady's playoff ratio since 2005 is nowhere near 2:1, folks.

    Just give me 2:1 and a run game that you commit to in the fiirst half.

     



    Eli won the SB in 2007 with a 1.2:1 in 2007

     

    Eli won SB in 2011 with a 1.8:1 in 2011

    Flacco won SB last season with a 2.2:1

    Rothlisberger won the SB with a 1.1:1 in 2008

    Rogers won SB in 2010 with a 2.5:1

    Brees won a SB in 2009 with a 3:1

     

    None of these teams had great run offenses.

    Out of the last 6 Super Bowl winning teams the Patriots had more rushing yards 4 out of the 6 seasons then the winning SB team had.

     

    2012 Rushing Yards Pats 2184, SB winner Ravens 1901

    2011 Rushing yards Pats 1764, SB winner Giants 1427

    2010 Rushing Yards Pats 1973, SB winner Packers 1606

    2009 Rushing Yards Pats 1921, SB winner Saints 2106

    2008 Rushing Yards Pats 2278, SB winner Steelers 1690

    2007 Rushing Yards= Pats 1849, SB winner Giants 2148

     

    I don't get the point of this thread.  It's all about matchups on that given day.

    Rusty selling wolf tickets still.

     




    with that said i will ask u tfb what i posted above:

    u rather have a qb go 18 TD 3 INT  or  38 TD  22 INT ??

    just at face value

     
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    It's a huge factor in the difference between winning and losing. Brady is always one of if not the best in the regular season and he used to be in the playoffs where he won his first 10 games. Look at Flacco this Post season, he was perfect. Turnovers more than anything else determine who wins. It's not everything but they are very difficult for even the best teams to overcome. 

     
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    Oh yeah and I'd say at least 2-1. Brady is even better than that in the regular season.

     
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    with that said i will ask u tfb what i posted above:

     

    u rather have a qb go 18 TD 3 INT  or  38 TD  22 INT ??

    just at face value




    Neither one.

    18 td's you are not getting enough production out of your QB even if you have a superb running game.  You gotta have a superb running production and top notch D to win with that, and you certainly aren't going to build a dynasty type team with a qb throwing 18 td's a season.

    As far as 38 tds, 22 ints you need a top notch defense getting a lot of turnovers, more then 22, to be successful.  Again, you are not going to build a dynasty with a QB turning the ball over like that without having a stellar defense year in and year out getting a lot more turnovers then giving up.

    Again, I want at least a 3:1 ratio and certainly no less then 2.5:1!

     
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    Let's put the rusty creep's notion, that it's all TB's fault, to bed right now.

    I have done some research in the INT problem and the one UNDENIABLE fact is that not all ints are the fault of the QB.  In fact, from what I can gather, it's only about 35% QB fault.  The other 65% can be attributed to supporting cast, whether it is a offensive line breakdown, receiver error or the position your own defense puts you in or the defenders you are playing..  They all contribute!  Actual bad throws are in the minority.

    Adjusted QB's int ratios take into account, tipped passes, last 2 minute of the half ints, hail mary's and dropped ints by the D and whether or not you are behind and throwing to catch up with defenses better able to defend that.  When a QB is forced to throw more, out of desperation, ints happen way more frequently, because the D knows what's coming.

      See AFC /Ravens games.

    (which is the main reason NE's D is able to get so many ints during blowout games and almost none in close and play-off games)  They don't have the luxury of a big lead!

    Unfortunately, most of the stats I found relate to high int QB's because they are more frequently scrutinized but I'm confident that the same holds true for all QB's.

    Here is a breakdown for Cassel's ints last year (7 games).  Only 4 of his 11 ints were deemed his fault, 36%.  7 were tipped by the receiver and one was a hail mary.

      Similar results were found to be true for other high int %, QB's such as Romo and Eli.

    Casselbyqtr_originalSo Crusty creep, unless you can prove that TB's ints are all his fault and not a result of supporting cast, the D's they are playing and situational football, STFU.  None of us, excluding your parrots who are incapable of an original thought, want to hear your crap any more!

     
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    In response to BassFishingII's comment:

    Brady's playoff ratio since 2005 is nowhere near 2:1, folks.

    28 TDs 19 INTs.

    AFC title games since 2007 (at home):

    8 TDs 9 INTs

    A 2:1 ratio is just like a what you look for with a pitcher and the strikeout/walk ratio, which also targets at 2:1.

    I posted this thread to show why an 8:1 ratio in the regular season, for example in 2010, with a finesse, shotgun offense is somewhat pointless to run when it generates such a poor ratio in the postseason.

    No one is even asking for 6:1, 7:1, or even 8:1.

    Just give me 2:1 and a run game that you commit to in the fiirst half.

     




    So his 9-2 ratio overall in the SB should make you happy.

    And his 3-1 ratio in the last 2 SBs in which the defense collapsed to blow a lead at the end of the game should make you happy as well.

     

     

     
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    I knew Bass would eventually turn this into a somewhat Brady bashing when he came up with the playoff numbers.  You just knew this was setting that up.

    Bass..  GIVE IT UP!!!

     
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    I knew Bass would eventually turn this into a somewhat Brady bashing when he came up with the playoff numbers.  You just knew this was setting that up.

    Bass..  GIVE IT UP!!!




    Yup!  And it isn't working.  Rusty selling wolf tickets folks!

     
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    In response to BassFishingII's comment:

    In response to agcsbill's comment:

     

    I knew Bass would eventually turn this into a somewhat Brady bashing when he came up with the playoff numbers.  You just knew this was setting that up.

    Bass..  GIVE IT UP!!!

     




    Tell Babe (and Pezzy with Hurl) to stop trolling.  A smart person should know I was going to introduce that. 

     

    Once the Irrationals concede that Brady has to be better in a QB/offensive era, in his preferred style offense, that will be the end of it.

    They just won't do it.  That's part of the problem.  In fact, their anger shows they can't admit it. Instead of saying "wow, I had no idea it was that bad", they lash out knowing how bad it is, but attacking me instead.

    Throw Babe's behavior in here and there is no way on god's green earth this board should allow his trolling.




    Dispute the FACT that the majority of those ints are relative to the supporting cast, situational Foot Ball and the defenders they are playing or S T H of the short comings U.

    Go ahead, troll!  This is your opportunity to prove yourself correct and the rest of the world, wrong.

    Not one person in here has said Brady is blameless, troll!  It's only in your sick little mind and in defense of your beebee.

     

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