TE Preview

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    i really think that Hernandez is going to be a beast. Crumpler is defininately going to improve maroneys yardage (I think he will finally get over 1,000 yards due to great blocking, assuming mankins is back) TE went from one of our greatest weaknesses to one of our strengths. Brady is going to start relying on Hernandez like romo rely on whitten and like philips relys on gates.  (especially if welke ris down for the first 6 games.) Man i can't wait till training camp! Go Pats!
     
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    Great post!  You didn't mention thought that Crumpler will serve as a great mentor to Gronkowski and Hernandez.  My only worry about Hernandez is if he turns into another Chad Jackson.  So far so good from reports out of mini camp that he has been picking up the offense pretty well.  I'm crossing my fingers.  I see him being used more in the manner of Dallas Clark or a Dustin Keller.  If he's used like they are and if he picks up the offense he will be one dangerous TE. 

    As far as Gronkowski he's been out of football for a year so it may take a while for him to get back into the flow.  Once he gets acclimated I can see him being a Jason Witten type of TE.  If he reaches anywhere near Witten the Pats got a steal.  Overall I am cautiously excited about the rookies. 
     
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    Watch footage of Hernandez and youll quickly realize how great he could be in a Patriots offense. His yards after catch is incredible. Big mismatch when he flexs out wide or plays the flats. 

    Gronkowski will be a red zone beast. How tall is he? the guy is a momument. Brady is going to love this target.


     
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    I'm so looking forward to seeing what these guys can do on the field. Watson and graham both were huge disappointments to me. I can't remember us having a dominant TE since Ben Coates in the 90s. 

    It'll be great to get the TE position contributing again, especially in the red zone.
    I'm looking for major contributions from the rookies!
     
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    I don't know why the Pats would use Hernandez at FB when "he is not the best blocker" but I do believe that he could be a very effective receiver in the short and intermediate passing zones.  More important, I'm hoping for much better run blocking from the two bigger TEs.  I think we will see many more double TE formations this year...especially in the red zone.  I don't see how Myers can make the 53 man roster unless he becomes a terror on STs.
     
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    this is the best TE group we've had in years. these young guys are going to be great for oour offense.
     
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    The ability of Hernandez and others to block and catch relatively well should make for alot of good short yardage options.  I think that's been a general weekness of the Pats the last few years.  Could even ease the pressure on the Oline keeping the D from pinning their ears back when they have to consider the TE's as a viable receiving option.
     
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    isnt tight end preview a synonym phrase for porn trailer?

    at any rate...its a talented group but im not willing to make each of these guys into pro-bowl form quite yet

     
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    They don't need to be Pro Bowl.  Many NE Patriots 3 time SB champs barely eeked out one Pro Bowl their entire careers. Patriots players don't go to Pro Bowls. You know that.
    Posted by russgriswold

    my point is that you and a few of your ilk already have gron and herby as pro-bowlers before they have even set foot on the NFL field...lets let them prove their talent first before we give them a plaque in canton
     
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     With Crumpler you know what you are getting (a slightly above average TE) so if either Gronkowski or Hernandez live up to their billing the Pats will be in good shape and if both do then they will have the best bunch of TEs in years.  In the red zone they will go with both Hernandez and Gronkowski at ends to give some height to the receiving corp.  Meyers is gone unless one of the other three go down early in training camp.  
     
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    Yea look at what Dallas Clark does for Indy, I really think Hernandez could be that kind of threat.
    Posted by MVPkilla4life


    i agree, it would finally be nice to have our "dallas clark" and have that threat every down. 
     
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    Alge Crumpler was a reasonable receiving tight end, even in 2009, paired up with a lousy quarterback who couldn't ever find him.  Probably the QB could find one target at best on most plays, a second target was an effort for the guy, and finding his fourth choice was rare.  I suppose the guy was accurate and mobile, but not everybody in the NFL is named Brady.  If my theory is correct, BB is once again washing the dirt off of a jewel.

    Gronk's issue is not his health.  The rookie needs to treat blocking sleds with a bit more delicacy. 

    Gronk's issue is his being out of college ball for all of 2009.  He has major rust problems.  Worse, he needs to learn how to block at NFL levels and how to run routes at NFL levels.  Good blocking is not learned in a year.  I get the feeling that Gronk will not start in September.  Maybe he'll start working in on a few plays as a change-of-pace tight end, something to keep the defense's minds spinning.  As he gets good, his natural talent will give him more playing time.

    Hernandez is also an ordinary NFL-level blocker but he can release and catch passes right now.  He'll get some time in September, but then he'll get better.
     
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    In Response to Re: TE Preview : Here is another example of you making up lies and putting words in my mouth. I never said either would be a Pro Bowler. I said each has a specific skill set that complement each other at the position, NE's TE situation was god awful last year and actually has been for YEARS here, and I really like what BB did. If you look back here before the draft I was one saying we need a TE; to please get Brady a legit TE and that every Pro Bowl or HOF QB had their binky in this area.  People kept saying "we don't use the TE" and I said "why not???"  Voila, here we are. We now see two highly rated TEs in this draft running routes for Tom Brady. I'd be slightly scared if I were you too, especially with what Hernandez can do.  That's a match up nightmare just as Dallas Clark with shifty speed and his hands are for every team that plays Indy.  I was also looking for Tony Gonzalez in a trade last season.  That would have been nice, but this is great. This is great Brady has two young TEs to groom and between Crumpler, Gronkowski and Hernandez, this is clearly the best 3 TE set he's had in camp, only rivaling when Graham and Fauria where here.  And then later, Graham and Watson as a duo. That's the benchmark and I think these two rookies have as much or more talent than those two. Crumpler, at worst, improves the run game as a beastly blocker off the edge. 
    Posted by russgriswold

    A. crusty the clown, you said hernandez compares to dallas clark who is an all-pro and will likely be a hall of famer...its not putting words in your mouth if i understand your intent and your intent is to make every pats player and coach look godly while the rest of the league looks weak and like they dont know what they are doing
    B. im not scared of rookies...especially non-impact rooks...which the pats seem to have in abudance of
    C. i agree about crumpler but the pats have been extremely reluctant to use their TE's for years...and not just because of talent level...the way i see it...to use a baseball comparison...the TE in the NE offense of the past few years is a like a pinch hitter in baseball that gets 1 Ab per week...what the hell do you think he is going to do? not much? then you would be right...so until i see brady utilizing the TE's...then this area is an area of weakness IMO and not for the lack of talent on the 2 rooks part either
     
  14. You have chosen to ignore posts from Jimmy42Jack0. Show Jimmy42Jack0's posts

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    Skill set-wise.   Do you know what that means? I explained what that meant to you before on a thread and here I am doing it again.  Apparently, you have NO IDEA what it means to compare one player to another in terms of style or skill set. Have you ever had your IQ checked? That's a serious question, by the way. Oh my.
    Posted by russgriswold

    you never said skill set wise mr. crusty backpeddler

    have you ever had your memory checked? its a serious question because i dont think you would remember your head if it wasnt attached to your neck...not that your head has a whole lot relevant to say anyways
     
  15. You have chosen to ignore posts from Jimmy42Jack0. Show Jimmy42Jack0's posts

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    Yes, I did.  I said that the second you or another troll tried to insinuate I was quickly comparing Hernandez's college play translating to Clark's NFL play. LIAR. How on god's green earth could anyone proclaim a guy who hasn't taken a snap yet in the NFL is as productive as Dallas Clark has been? Clark is an H Back. So is Hernandez. That is the comparison. Get the IQ YOu are challenging my memory? Really, son? I can tell you right now off top of the my head Andy Moog won 37 games for Boston in the '92/'93 season. That's one example of many photographic images I have in my head with numbers and facts. Enjoy! P.S. It's not "peddle". No one is walking backwards trying to sell something. lol
    Posted by russgriswold

    no, you didnt crusty...you implied the pats had just drafted the next dallas clark...

    and again crusty...i have a father and step father, they are allowed to call me son, you dumb-a.s.s, are not

    and no one here cares about andy moog and your supposed photographic memory...really...i swear it
     
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    I'm looking forward to seeing how the TE's do this year. Crumpler can imagine will be a 6th offensive lineman this year. Gronkowski will hopefully be everything Watson wasn't, better blocker with good hands and also stretch the field. Then Hernandez looks like a H-back in the making, lining out at slot receiver in spread formations.
     

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