Team Building: What's Next

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    Team Building: What's Next

    With the Vollmer signing, the Pats are now in reasonable shape in all positions except WR.  WR should be a big priority for them in the draft and the coming waves of free agency. It's the weakest position right now. 

    At all other positions, the focus now shifts to strengthening the team rather than simply building it. We still have a few areas where improvement is desirable.  I see the following three as most important:

    Front seven--could use more power and quickness in the middle of the line; still need edge players with pass rush and/or coverage skills--these could be DEs or OLBs.  Scheme will be adjusted, I think, depending on the particular skills of the guys we get. 

    DBs--another starting calibre corner (who can play outside) would be a very nice addition; a young safety with some potential to start is a possible nice addition too. 

    OL--pretty good now, though there are still opportunities to build depth at all positions and maybe strengthen the interior.

    I see special teams and the rest of the offense (QB, RB, TE) as pretty much set, especially with Leon Washington's versatility as both a kick and punt returner, though an additional punt returner (Edelman?) might be nice. 

     

     

     
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    Would like to see a pass rusher, WR and another CB.  I think safety is set.  Time for Mccourdy and Wilson to develop.  Edelman would be a good person to resign.   Lloyd could have value at a low price.  I would love to see them draft an interior lineman for both the offense and defense.  Mankins could be a salary cap hit in the next year.

     
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    Interior DLine .

    WR.

    both critical. I still hold out hope for Cunningham, Francis and Ras to contribute. Bequette is a head scratcher.

    i think the Pats are now very tight against the cap unless they cut/extend players. They "carry" upwards of $7m imo this year

     
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    The draft, I'm prepping my annual draft guide this week where I get to play Mel Kiper.

    There will be more camp body signings, John Abraham will realize that nobody but the worst teams in the NFL are willing to pay him more in base and incentives than the Pat's while still having a chance to win a ring and will sign.  We'll bring every free agent receiver available in the NFL to camp and probably draft two more.  I'm still hoping we move up in the 1st for that monster DT, it will change our entire defense...  

     
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    Hey gang! I just flew back from Florida and boy are my arms tired! bada bum!!

    So how are ya my horribly accented neighbors from the North?

    There wouldn't be too much concern in here about somebody catching the ball from an aging Tom Brady if the pats didn't put the screws to Welker like they did.Hey what's 2 million $$ between friends anyway right?  Can't wait to be writing Manning to Welker over and over and over again in here!

    How has Gronk been? I haven't heard any more embarassing stories abouit him in the last couple of weeks. Glad somebody got in his ear.

    Remember that this is a pats Forum NOT a NY Jets forum when replying.....jr.

    And there is NO reason to repost my original post when replying. Why anybody does that is beyond me. We're all grownups(well most of us..that King character sounds like he's 13) and can follow along.

    Great to be back...have u missed me?

     

     

     
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    Remaining FA options, IMO, vet CB, pass rusher (OLB/DE), WR.  

    Draft options:  Interior DL, OL, CB, WR.

    Not surprisingly we'll see some pretty serviceable FAs become available as we continue into the league year.  Perhaps an opportunity to fill some of the above needs then as well.

     
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    I still say if Eddie Lacy is available at 29 Pats should grab him...

     
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    ...why are Broncos, 13-3, picking ahead of Pats, 12-4?

     
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    Put me down for what others say -- CB, WR and DE/OLB.  There are more than a few options out there in FA right now at CB.  It seems this team can never have enough bodies there.  At WR, I am hopeful that there is someone who can come in to round out the WR corps if it's not Sanders.  Edelman is still out there too.  At DE/OLB, I think it would be a wise move to bolster the pass rush with a guy who is proven.  Abraham seems the most logical choice.  

    I hope they draft a DL and WR too.    

     
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    If you had to choose between a good interior D lineman (NT, DT, or two-gapping 3-4 DE) or an edge player (4-3 DE or OLB), which would you take? I'm more interested in the interior guy who can help out Vince and has power to collapse the pocket from the inside.  I think Jones is enough of an outside pass rusher.  In fact, for an edge player I'd almost prefer a versatile OLB who can cover to an edge pass rushing specialist.

     
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    In response to prolate0spheroid's comment:

    If you had to choose between a good interior D lineman (NT, DT, or two-gapping 3-4 DE) or an edge player (4-3 DE or OLB), which would you take? I'm more interested in the interior guy who can help out Vince and has power to collapse the pocket from the inside.  I think Jones is enough of an outside pass rusher.  In fact, for an edge player I'd almost prefer a versatile OLB who can cover to an edge pass rushing specialist.



    I would agree although that's partly based upon what seems to be available. I think they can add some veteran help at DE like Abraham and then see how Francis, Bequette, etc develop.

    It's supposed to be a solid draft class for DT but not much available in FA at that position.

     

     
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    If you had to choose between a good interior D lineman (NT, DT, or two-gapping 3-4 DE) or an edge player (4-3 DE or OLB), which would you take? I'm more interested in the interior guy who can help out Vince and has power to collapse the pocket from the inside.  I think Jones is enough of an outside pass rusher.  In fact, for an edge player I'd almost prefer a versatile OLB who can cover to an edge pass rushing specialist.



    I think it is often overlooked what a strong inside rush can produce in terms of disrupting the passing game.  I, too, would be in favor of the stud inside guy as opposed to the edge rusher.

     
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    If you had to choose between a good interior D lineman (NT, DT, or two-gapping 3-4 DE) or an edge player (4-3 DE or OLB), which would you take? I'm more interested in the interior guy who can help out Vince and has power to collapse the pocket from the inside.  I think Jones is enough of an outside pass rusher.  In fact, for an edge player I'd almost prefer a versatile OLB who can cover to an edge pass rushing specialist.

     



    I think it is often overlooked what a strong inside rush can produce in terms of disrupting the passing game.  I, too, would be in favor of the stud inside guy as opposed to the edge rusher.

     

     



    Yeah, Wozzy's been making this argument for a while and he's convinced me.  I'm more neutral on 3-4 versus 4-3, but I think the interior player in whatever scheme we end up using is what we need.  If he's really big and powerful, we can two gap more; if he's more agile, maybe we one gap and try to penetrate more.  A bigger guy does allow us to rest Wilfork more, which I think would be nice.

     

     

     
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    Sign Edelman and Abraham and draft the best DT available in the 1st. Pats have Jones learn more rush moves from Abraham; Edelman does return/STs duties and provides depth at WR. 2nd round draft a CB becuase Talib could be gone after 2014. Interior OL that can play OG so when Mankins $$ escalates you have leverage or a viable option at LG.

     
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    In response to prolate0spheroid's comment:

    If you had to choose between a good interior D lineman (NT, DT, or two-gapping 3-4 DE) or an edge player (4-3 DE or OLB), which would you take? I'm more interested in the interior guy who can help out Vince and has power to collapse the pocket from the inside.  I think Jones is enough of an outside pass rusher.  In fact, for an edge player I'd almost prefer a versatile OLB who can cover to an edge pass rushing specialist.




    I agree. Need a disruptive force that teams have to pay attention to on the D-line. Force the double team. I think between Jones,Nink,Hightower,JC,Francis or a JAG we will get to the QB by dominating at the LOS...like we used to.

     
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    Sign Edelman and Abraham and draft the best DT available in the 1st. Pats have Jones learn more rush moves from Abraham; Edelman does return/STs duties and provides depth at WR. 2nd round draft a CB becuase Talib could be gone after 2014. Interior OL that can play OG so when Mankins $$ escalates you have leverage or a viable option at LG.




     

    Agree with all this. If not Edelman at least Lloyd and fill in ST duties. Brady needs the chemistry, not fair to ask him to develop another receiver in this complex offensive system.

     
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    For me Jesse Williams is the player; he has scheme versatility (has played the nose, 4-3 DT and DE)> Williams drew double teams in college; in the Pats D its usually Wilfork that draws the double teams; and like I always say you can only really double team one guy and this opens up opportunities for Jones and Dreaderick and ideally Abraham. The added bonus is that 'Fork isn't gassed by the 4th quarter if Williams is part of the rotation. As for CB, you get a CB in a draft that is deep in CBs; put him in the nickel and dime packages and see what he can do and have a back-up plan if Talib bolts. OL is great because you have a player who can learn from the best OL coach in the game (Scar) and shed some salary and create cap space in 2014 or 2015.

    The real question is will Williams be there at the Pats pick? He might not be which would put players like Short and Hankins into play. Some serious depth at DT in this draft.

     

    Also think that BB could draft a QB or RB in the late rounds as depth and insurance. I know WR is the sexy pick, but BB could do this for depth. I also trust BB to make the right picks with linemen than with WRs. Draft a kicker in 6th or 7th.

     
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    Agree with the internal D-Line folks. Would love to see Myron Pryor healthy again, and whether or not he could build on that impressive first year.

     
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    I'd like to see a nasty DT added along with Abraham and another decent corner. The defensive rebuild would be complete. I haven't ever seen Armond Armstead play but he could also be a factor too. 

    BB must have something up his sleeve for receiver planned. We need help there, maybe Edelman and a draft pick. Can't wait for the draft.

     

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