Tebow will be a big part of Red Zone Offense by end of the season....

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    Tebow will be a big part of Red Zone Offense by end of the season....

    Hey I never post but read the site all the time. I grew up in Mass but live in Denver now so I know firsthand that Tebow absolutely SUCKS at QB....no doubt about it...but the guy is a baller- he is a tough, decepitively fast runner who will do whatever it takes to get that extra yard.


    My feeling is that BB never had any plans to use Tebow as a QB and knew he would make the final 53 when he signed him. The preseason practices and mini-camp are open to the media and he wants to hide and save Tebow for the right time. In the Red Zone, Tebow will play the FB/HB/hybrid TE role and possibly read option plays. He doesn't even have to score to be productive. If he can line-up as a FB and then motion out to TE and vice versa(just like Vereen with RB & WR,) he and Vereen create the type of mismatches that the Pats crave and that opens up holes for other players. The Pats are clearly trying to bring back the FB position and rushing offense but want versatile players. Tebow may need to work on receiving but he is the best runner of the FB/TE hybrid candidates.

    I understand why people hate Tebow and why they think BB is crazy but he is the best coach to utilize Tebow's unique talents.

     
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    Hey I never post but read the site all the time. I grew up in Mass but live in Denver now so I know firsthand that Tebow absolutely SUCKS at QB....no doubt about it...but the guy is a baller- he is a tough, decepitively fast runner who will do whatever it takes to get that extra yard.


    My feeling is that BB never had any plans to use Tebow as a QB and knew he would make the final 53 when he signed him. The preseason practices and mini-camp are open to the media and he wants to hide and save Tebow for the right time. In the Red Zone, Tebow will play the FB/HB/hybrid TE role and possibly read option plays. He doesn't even have to score to be productive. If he can line-up as a FB and then motion out to TE and vice versa(just like Vereen with RB & WR,) he and Vereen create the type of mismatches that the Pats crave and that opens up holes for other players. The Pats are clearly trying to bring back the FB position and rushing offense but want versatile players. Tebow may need to work on receiving but he is the best runner of the FB/TE hybrid candidates.

    I understand why people hate Tebow and why they think BB is crazy but he is the best coach to utilize a Tebow's unique talents.



    Just a couple of questions:

    Have you seen Tebow try to catch? He doesn't have strong hands

    How would having Tebow in the backfield and going wide differ from say having Ridley and Vereen both back there and sending Vereen wide or having Hoom back in the FB spot then having him flex out?

    Both Vereen and Hoom have better hands than Tebow and would seem like more of a threat as a receiver for the D to account for. And if you direct snap to Tebow for a pass what does Brady do? Wouldn't that essentially be playing with 10 players instead of 11? 

    I can see how your thinking it out but not sure we couldn't do that with players we already have on the team without using up a roster spot.

     
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    I don't think he would be a better choice as a receiver than another player on the team who does it for a living. same thing goes for carrying the ball.

    now, I can see him coming in for 1-2 option plays in the red zone as a QB - but only on a 1st or 2nd down situation.  I think Brady is a better choice overall.

     

     
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    Can't see him being used as a fullback because at no point this preseason was he used that way.  I doubt when the real games begin and the season is underway Tebow will all of a sudden get his "unveiling".  I think he was brought in to be groomed as a potential # 2 for if they can ever get a decent trade bait deal for Mallett.  However, in my opinion from what I've seen over the last several games, it didn't work out and it isn't worth pursuing with him.  IMHO, we are too thin at other positions to carry 3 QB's. 

     
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     If he's used as a specialist it will be as a short yardage running QB in my opinion.  They do this a lot in the CFL.  They have a QB who comes out on short yardage plays and basically runs the option.  They'll pass occasionally just to show the QB can do it, but mostly they're there to add another runner/blocker option on the play (and to protect the main QB from unnecessary hits).

     

    Michael Bishop (remember him?) did this for a while in the CFL . . . 

     
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    Can't see him being used as a fullback because at no point this preseason was he used that way.  I doubt when the real games begin and the season is underway Tebow will all of a sudden get his "unveiling".  I think he was brought in to be groomed as a potential # 2 for if they can ever get a decent trade bait deal for Mallett.  However, in my opinion from what I've seen over the last several games, it didn't work out and it isn't worth pursuing with him.  IMHO, we are too thin at other positions to carry 3 QB's. 



    I'm actually warming up to the theory they brought him in the reign in Hernandez. Urban did it in Florida and maybe the Pats thought they could do the same. Then a week later Hernandez kills a guy. No harm keeping him on for preseason and giving him a shot so they kept him on. But, if Hernanadez didn't wipe out his pistol I would say knowing what we do know a 53man spot would have been worth it to give to Tebow if he could have been Hernanadez's Jimmy Cricket

     
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     If he's used as a specialist it will be as a short yardage running QB in my opinion.  They do this a lot in the CFL.  They have a QB who comes out on short yardage plays and basically runs the option.  They'll pass occasionally just to show the QB can do it, but mostly they're there to add another runner/blocker option on the play (and to protect the main QB from unnecessary hits).

     

    Michael Bishop (remember him?) did this for a while in the CFL . . . 



    lol you know what's funny I compared Tebow to Bishop to someone the other night and they thought I was crazy until I started explaining it. Winner in college, runner up for Heisman, around here he had a cult following that wanted him to start over Bledsoe. Had trouble reading D's, not and accurate passer, great running QB. Tebow and Bishop have a lot in common the only difference Bishop was only a NE cult icon while Tebow has a national following

     
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     If he's used as a specialist it will be as a short yardage running QB in my opinion.  They do this a lot in the CFL.  They have a QB who comes out on short yardage plays and basically runs the option.  They'll pass occasionally just to show the QB can do it, but mostly they're there to add another runner/blocker option on the play (and to protect the main QB from unnecessary hits).

     

    Michael Bishop (remember him?) did this for a while in the CFL . . . 

     



    lol you know what's funny I compared Tebow to Bishop to someone the other night and they thought I was crazy until I started explaining it. Winner in college, runner up for Heisman, around here he had a cult following that wanted him to start over Bledsoe. Had trouble reading D's, not and accurate passer, great running QB. Tebow and Bishop have a lot in common the only difference Bishop was only a NE cult icon while Tebow has a national following

     

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    Well, there is that little difference where TT took over a 1-4 team and brought them to the playoffs despite his GM throwing him under the bus weekly, then beating the Steelers in Pittsburgh in the playoffs.

    Did Bishop do anything like that?

     
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    I'm actually warming up to the theory they brought him in the reign in Hernandez. Urban did it in Florida

     



    Amazing how TT manged to win the Heisman while all he was really doing was keeping AH from gang-banging. LMAO

     
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    Well, there is that little difference where TT took over a 1-4 team and brought them to the playoffs despite his GM throwing him under the bus weekly, then beating the Steelers in Pittsburgh in the playoffs.

     

    Did Bishop do anything like that?



    Nope but Bishop was never given credit for a win after going 2 for 8 with 69 yrds either. Take an objective look at those wins and tell me that Tebow won those games and not the D or his kicker who nailed 50+yrds that year.

     
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    I'm actually warming up to the theory they brought him in the reign in Hernandez. Urban did it in Florida

     

     



    Amazing how TT manged to win the Heisman while all he was really doing was keeping AH from gang-banging. LMAO

     

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    Hey Babe please tell me 2 half way decent Heisman winners who started a full season for a team over the last 30 years. I'll get you started, Palmer

     
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    I'm actually warming up to the theory they brought him in the reign in Hernandez. Urban did it in Florida and maybe the Pats thought they could do the same. Then a week later Hernandez kills a guy. No harm keeping him on for preseason and giving him a shot so they kept him on. But, if Hernanadez didn't wipe out his pistol I would say knowing what we do know a 53man spot would have been worth it to give to Tebow if he could have been Hernanadez's Jimmy Cricket

     



    good thought. They did bring him onboard before the AH fallout, right?

     
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     If he's used as a specialist it will be as a short yardage running QB in my opinion.  They do this a lot in the CFL.  They have a QB who comes out on short yardage plays and basically runs the option.  They'll pass occasionally just to show the QB can do it, but mostly they're there to add another runner/blocker option on the play (and to protect the main QB from unnecessary hits).

     

    Michael Bishop (remember him?) did this for a while in the CFL . . . 

     

     



    lol you know what's funny I compared Tebow to Bishop to someone the other night and they thought I was crazy until I started explaining it. Winner in college, runner up for Heisman, around here he had a cult following that wanted him to start over Bledsoe. Had trouble reading D's, not and accurate passer, great running QB. Tebow and Bishop have a lot in common the only difference Bishop was only a NE cult icon while Tebow has a national following

     

     

     

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    Well, there is that little difference where TT took over a 1-4 team and brought them to the playoffs despite his GM throwing him under the bus weekly, then beating the Steelers in Pittsburgh in the playoffs.

     

    Did Bishop do anything like that?

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    isn't he the only heismann trophy winning QB to win an NFL playoff game?

     
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