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    [QUOTE]Maybe the Patriots will pull a Jets and squeak into the playoffs and go to the division championship but then unlike the Jets the Pats move on to the SB!!
    Posted by TFB12[/QUOTE]

    I realize you're talking about the PATS here but in the recent past, this strategy only gets you to the AFCC game and you don't win.
     
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    Wow! When did Drew Brees stop being a good QB?  I think I recall Cam Newton putting up some pretty good numbers this year.  Count me as one who does not think an undefeated record is a negative, just because they didn't play Buffalo and Pitt.  Green Bay is still the team to beat. 
     
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    [QUOTE]Your an idiot Rusty. In a passing league being near dead last in every single passing defense statistic = No SB. Every post of yours is the same. Avoid the fact that you cannot win in this league if you can't stop the pass and blame the offense instead. Same thing. Different day. Your blind.
    Posted by tompenny[/QUOTE]

    Pass D (yards) is hardly the end all, QB rating is a better assessment.  Either way, you know your pass D is not very good when it's near the bottom of the league.  As great as our red zone D has been, it does catch up to you when teams have many long sustained drives, even if they result in field goals.  Brady is a bit to blame, but obviosuly, our D get the bulk of the blame for being on the field for 40 minutes.
     
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    Yeah Rusty. It's incredibly difficult to apply a formula using previous seasons statistics. It's also existed since 1973. I know that's not enough seasons for you. Keep your head buried in the sand. Blame it on O'brien.
     
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    [QUOTE]Yeah Rusty. It's incredibly difficult to apply a formula using previous seasons statistics. It's also existed since 1973. I know that's not enough seasons for you. Keep your head buried in the sand. Blame it on O'brien.
    Posted by tompenny[/QUOTE]

    I think the beef with using QBR is that the NFL today is more pass oriented and more oriented on high percentage throws meaning QBR is higher today than it was in the 70's and 80's because completion % is up and INTS are down.  That being said I do think the fact that Pitt chose to throw the ball 30 times in the first half is an indictment of our pass defense.
     
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    To elaborate on my previous posts here are the career QBR of some famous QB's

    Bradshaw: 70.9
    Aikman: 81.6
    Plunkett: 67.5
    Elway: 79.9
    Marino: 86.4

    and here is the career QBR of Joe Flacco: 86
     
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    It is not perfect, no stat is.  From my understanding, a muffed or fumbled snap, regardless of who was to blame is a mark against the QB, even more so if it is in a critical situation.
     
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    [QUOTE]True Champ agree on 99% of topics here, so I agree with True Champ's comments. We don't have elite coordinators, but that doesn't mean they aren't any good. I am hard on O'Brien, but I just wonder if they need to scale back Brady's power and control. We're basically watching Peyton Manning here.   Great stats, no run game used, yet we have one, and our D is scapegoated. The difference is, we can play the way we know how. We've seen it. We've seen it. This is why I asked what you felt the source/root problem is of this team when we lose. Outside of a high turnover game, which is essentially a rare case for this team because of a Brady meltdown, just like I feel this past Sunday was with a bad gameplan, slow to adjust the gameplan, poor execution, the fixes for these flaws are able to be addressed. These SHOULD NOT be fundamental flaws.  The team is better on both sides of the ball than what they were last year. So, even though Brady is like Manning right now, he can be the Brady of 2004 again if he wants. They can clean the "weaknesses" up by simply being smarter on offense with balance and not to be afraid to play more man on D, adjusting quicker, etc. Just because this team had issues in man coverage earlier in the year, doesn't mean we should abandon it.   I think BB was fearful of man coverage similar to how he was in NOs in 2009.  He played man, then wanted zone to be good, it blew up, and he never really was able to use it again. Here's a tell tale sign this D isn't remotely as bad as being claimed: The 2009 pass D was ranked 13th with no pass rush.  We had Bodden, Sanders, Meriweather, etc, in the secondary, but the 3rd down D was clearly WORSE that year than it is this year (last week notwithstanding). There is no way on earth the 2009 D is better than this one. I felt BB over-thought the game on Sunday. I don't expect we'll see that again this year. Also, the loss speaks volumes of how much the human element comes into this game. Pitt was hellbent on coming out like a house of fire and they outplayed our players. Very much like what Cleveland was last year.
    Posted by RidingWithTheKing[/QUOTE]

    Seriously, you need help.

    Your constant bashing of the greatest player in Patriots' history, the reigning MVP, for the sake of defending this second rate at best defense is laughable.


    You're a troll and too many people here let you get away with it.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to The big picture... : I too am of the belief that coaching is the real problem. It is not a difficult concept to appreciate really. Our coaches/GM's have been robbed from us for a decade. BB stands alone with a young staff and a lack of real knowledge besides Scar and Pepper. Look at what Romeo is getting done in KC tonight. Getting applauded by Jaws and Gruden, his 30th year btw. Perfect bend don't break defense to hold Rivers td-less 2 games in a row. It is tough to replace 30 years of coaching. Cheifs just won what 4 or 5 in a row after losing Eric Berry for the year? Fans here refuse to see that an offense with great statistics can be culpable for a loss. Honestly our offense has scored 17 and 20 the last 2 games, um that is not very good for this bunch people. We abandon the run game at the first sign of adversity. That is a rookie coaching staff mistake. We don't have the 07 offense anymore, and guess what...that offense came up short. We shouldn't be passing 40x a game. It is counter productive. Wake up. We have built an offense around Brady to use play action and the power run game. We drafted 2 early round RB's to compliment a rock in BJGE and 2 great 3rd down specialists with Faulk and Woody.  The year before we drafted the 2 best TE's in the draft. Why are we not using them all? Why are we playing into a defense's game plan over and over again? This defense has talented players, the cuts of Sanders,Bodden and even Merriweather don't make sense to me without viable replacements, but the core of the defense is a good mix between Vets and early round talent. Yes we have missed on players, but you don't end up a top 10 ppg allowed defense two years in a row by accident. In the end this defense can't be the reason we win or lose a championship. The offense is our saving grace. This team is built to score 30 points a game while owing T.O.P. The defensive teams in this league don't win SB's. We need to use all of our weapons on offense and stop being predictable. I just don't understand how some people don't see this? I fault the defense for not playing good enough, because we are not the most talented defense in the league, the offense however has no excuse, as they are built to dominate....they just don't.
    Posted by TrueChamp[/QUOTE]

    I agree with your point of view. And, I think Russ will for the most part.

    Here are my keys on both sides of the ball;
    Offense /> Fire O'Brien, bring in a new OC. Run the ball more. Adjust at halftime.
    Defense /> Load the line, send many, help the secondary.

    Simple, what do you think Russ? can we get it done?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: The big picture... : I agree with your point of view. And, I think Russ will for the most part. Here are my keys on both sides of the ball; Offense /> Fire O'Brien, bring in a new OC. Run the ball more. Adjust at halftime. Defense /> Load the line, send many, help the secondary. Simple, what do you think Russ? can we get it done?
    Posted by PatsLifer[/QUOTE]


    I don't see how anybody could say this won't help. I mean as Russ just said we are Manning and the Colts right now, but worse because we actually have a good running game with maybe one of the best run blocking o-lines, and best o-line coach in the game. We just don't use them.

    I don't understand the defensive game plan, people say we don't get to the QB but almost every time we send extra rushers we do in fact get to the Qb, or at least get a hit on him. Enough with non aggressive game plan on D.

    I agree with you Lifer, send the house as our secondary is getting burnt anyway. I'm not calling for Obriens head but he clearly loses the battle of coordinators in almost every important game he has coached. That is disheartening don't you think? A game like Pitt just reminds me so much of the last 3 playoff games. Its sickening to watch an offense this good get out coached in important games.
     
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    Well thank goodness we have a brilliant offensive coordinator in Bill O'Brien.  We can count on him to right the ship. 
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: The big picture... : Or better yet . . .  put a photo of Troy Polamalu on his locker with the caption: "What's the snap count, moron?"
    Posted by p-mike[/QUOTE]

    Now this is funny sh*t!
     
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    We can blame the hammer instead of the carpenter when something goes wrong, like messing up snap counts, but when Woodley is rushing the passer on EVERY down because he, along with everybody else knows that New England gets into passing streaks where they pass 70-80 percent of the time, and then only run it when it's 3rd and long and we're trying to get better field position to punt.  It's blatantly obvious and easy to defend.

    Send Mankins and other O linemen out there to punch the opposing players in the mouth with a power run game it keeps them from falling back on their heels, it sets the tone, physically dominate the players across from you.  Be the aggressor instead of the defender... 

    That used to be Patriot football, Charlie Weis football, the Erhardt-Perkins system that gathered us 3 Super Bowl victories.  You can say how the league has changed blah blah blah... but nothing has changed about a straight A$$ kicking smashmouth running game... nothing.  Make that other team bow down, whoever said the Patriot's have become a finesse team was right on the money.


     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: The big picture... : Very interested to know what you base your opinion on? Has he done this before? All I recall is our offense struggling against the Ryan brothers, Baltimore and Pittsburgh. I also recall us passing 2-1 in each of those games against a defense that will rush 3-4 and drop 7-8.
    Posted by TrueChamp[/QUOTE]

    I think he was being sarcastic.
     
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    [QUOTE]Well thank goodness we have a brilliant offensive coordinator in Bill O'Brien.  We can count on him to right the ship. 
    Posted by themightypatriotz[/QUOTE]

    Very interested to know what you base your opinion on? Has he done this before? All I recall is our offense struggling against the Ryan brothers, Baltimore and Pittsburgh. I also recall us passing 2-1 in each of those games against a defense that will rush 3-4 and drop 7-8.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: The big picture... : I think he was being sarcastic.
    Posted by pcmIV[/QUOTE]

    I hope that was sarcasm?
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: The big picture... : I hope that was sarcasm?
    Posted by wozzy[/QUOTE]

    Ok now I'm lost.  Mighty said something along the lines of "Thank god we have the great OC O'Brien to right the ship."  I thought that was sarcasm.
     
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