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    Right good point, but we rank 29th still so I am having a pressed time buying into all of it.  Not to be negative because I believe in Butler unlike most, and love the play of McCourty.  I do hope they get better though.  Bodden is a big part of the next three years, while the rest will have to get better (my eye's on you Butler)


    As far as tomorrow.. GO PATS! 
     
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    mcgowan?
     
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    The Pats have turned over more than half the team with their youth movement and look (so far) to still be right in the thick of the league's elite teams. I don't see how even the most spoiled of Pats fans (you know who you are) can't be looking to the future with a big, sh*t-eating grin on his face.


     
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    One thing you have to consider when grading the Pats on defense.  It gets better per game.  Looking at an average is deceptive.  We do not have a trend either so we need to take some time on this.  SD on the road will go a long way on grading this defense.  The defense has not put a full game in to this date.  We need to see 4 quarters of football then we can start talking.  It really is a mixed bag at this point.
     
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    The Pats have turned over more than half the team with their youth movement and look (so far) to still be right in the thick of the league's elite teams. I don't see how even the most spoiled of Pats fans (you know who you are) can't be looking to the future with a big, sh*t-eating grin on his face.
    Posted by p-mike


    Especially when you factor in the number of quality picks we have next year.  I still don't think the SB will be won by us this year, but I can't imagine how anybody can't be excited about our future.  If we hit on our picks next year, we'll have ~21 players drafted from 2009-2011.  I don't think any team in the modern era has ever reloaded a roster that fast with so many new players.

    And this was only made possible through all of those maddening draft day and other unpopular trades...
     
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    In Response to Re: The Future... : Especially when you factor in the number of quality picks we have next year.  I still don't think the SB will be won by us this year, but I can't imagine how anybody can't be excited about our future.  If we hit on our picks next year, we'll have ~21 players drafted from 2009-2011.  I don't think any team in the modern era has ever reloaded a roster that fast with so many new players. And this was only made possible through all of those maddening draft day and other unpopular trades...
    Posted by carawaydj


    Exactly.

    Look . . .  I know it drives us all crazy on draft day(s), but I don't see how you can (logically) argue with the results. There are always going to be people willing to pick apart certain draft windows and say "What about this guy?" and "What about that guy?" But taken in perspective, the Kraft/Belichik era -- given cap and free agency constraints -- might just turn out to be the most successful run any team has ever or will ever put together in the NFL.

    So successful, in fact, that the commissioner and the sport's largest media functionary had to inflate a largely superfluous scandal in an attempt to discredit what now appears to have been merely the first half of it.

    Speaking as someone who once wore a bag over his head with Ron Erhardt's name and sincere well wishes stencilled on it to Sullivan Stadium, I would caution Pats fan not to take lightly what is happening right now.
     
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    Right good point, but we rank 29th still so I am having a pressed time buying into all of it.  Not to be negative because I believe in Butler unlike most, and love the play of McCourty.  I do hope they get better though.  Bodden is a big part of the next three years, while the rest will have to get better (my eye's on you Butler) As far as tomorrow.. GO PATS! 
    Posted by Getzo


    They're 25th but it's a fair point.  I think we are looking at how the defense is trending twoard getting better right now.  The last 2 games they have allowed 14, and 20 points (avg 17).  That would be good enough to be fifth in the league.  Could be nothing, but they appear to be improving.

    One of the things I really like is how different units and different players are stepping up and getting things done every game. 

    Buffalo game:  The defense and SP teams struggled, the game was largely won because of the offense.  Major contributions from Brady, Hernandez, Welker, Moss and the RB's.

    Miami game:  Special teams dominated, big time players were Brady, Chung, Arrington, Welker, Green-Ellis and Tate.

    Baltimore game:  Offense struggled.  Defense stepped up and played lights out in the 4th qtr and OT.  Big time players are Wilfork, Mayo, Cunningham, Mesko, Branch, Woodhead, and Gostkowski.

    I think it's a sign of a good football team when if a player or squad is struggling the others step up and make plays to win the game.
     
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    In Response to Re: The Future... :I think it's a sign of a good football team when if a player or squad is struggling the others step up and make plays to win the game.
    Posted by shenanigan


    Shenanigan could not be more correct.

    We know the defense isn't "lights out" and isn't likely to be anytime soon, but rising up in situations is what it's all about, and improvement is what we're looking for. The Pats are scheduled to play a team today that jbolted will happily tell you has both the best offense and (at least nearly) the best defense in the league. Sadly (for him), that team has only managed to win two games.

    Converesely, the Pats defense blows wet donkey -- as anyone outside New England will surely attest -- and the offense has been less than many of us thought it might be. And yet, the Pats are 4-1.

    Why is that, I wonder?

    Well . . .

    Actually, I don't wonder . . .   and you shouldn't, either. The best teams find ways to maximize their advantages and exploit their opponents' weaknesses. Take what they give you and take away what they want to do. I'm pretty sure that's coaching . . .

    But I know that if I say that too loudly, Indylove will just come in here and tell me what a fraud Belichick is.

    And I don't want that.



    Undecided



     
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