The Improving Patriots' Defense

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    Good article. Vince has stepped up and become a leader. Like I speculated early in the season these guys would improve as the season progressed. Now after 16 games they do not play like rookies anymore. Guys like Mayo (though he's young, too) and Sanders have followed Wlifork's lead, and the young guys have been receptive. They have improved beyond my hopes, and are now one of the better defenses in the league. They are so far ahead of the rest of the league in turnover differential it's scary. Yesterday's games prove how important that is when you get to the postseason. They have also vastly improved in red zone defense, and many of their takeaways have occurred inside their own 20 yard line. As far as stopping the Jests ground game, it will be key. If Sanchez has to try and win this game with his arm it will be a slaughter! They also should have Spikes back, which will help out against the run. Vince will also be great if they do make it to Dallas. He went to the SB as a rookie, and he'll be able to help the young guys handle all the distractions. The sustained success of this team is due to veteran leadership and young guys who play smart. I don't see how the pundits can tout McCarthy for coach of the year when BB has done what he has with all these inexperienced players! This has truly been an amazing season, whatever happens going forward.
     
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    Would it suprise you if he trades up. If he really, really likes a DE that may go 10 would he trade our first (late one), a third (early pick), and a future second. It wouldn't suprise me the rookie pay scale is going to be different in this draft. So money won't be an issue as it has been in the past.

     
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    ZB, you make a good point about the dearth of DE's , DT's or even OLB's that are worthy of pick #17.

    That  makes it even more likely that we trade down or out of that slot.

     
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    yeah, they've come a long way, a +28 turnover ratio is a good measure of their improvement
     
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    Prophet, my limited knowledge tells me that #17 is too high for OL also.

    Is Pouncy as good as his brother (who starts for the Steelers)?

     
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    I honestly felt that this was a 12-4 team at the beginning of  the year. By contrast, most of the media felt that the Patriots were a team in decline that had lost most of its veteran leadership. The Jets became the flavor of the year to go all the way. The defense has vastly improved from week 2 and developed a knack for getting TOs at pivotal points in the game; meanwhile the offense is the best in the league and hardly ever turns the ball over. If the last 5 games are any indication, the Patriots are a team that is playing its best football at the right time. Fork and Mayo have stepped up and McCourty has become Defensive Rookie Of the Year material (something Belichick and not many other draftniks foresaw). Always felt that, like most Belichick defenses, the D would be much improved by the end of the season (SB?) and that the young players will have absorbed most of the knowledge it takes to run a BB defense.

    I still agree that we need a better pass rush (DE/OLB in draft), however, this team has made huge strides in what many considered a rebuilding year.
     
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    Seems to me how good the D is and ultimately how far the team advances in the playoffs hinges a lot on the secondary. 2001 was a very impressive secondary. And by 2004 Belichick was claiming it was the best one he'd ever coached.
    After that it seemed Rodney would go down and we'd get bounced from the playoffs. Well we don't have a Rodney, but we do have a pretty good and versatile 3-headed monster in Chung, Sanders and Meriweather. And McCourty is of course the key. When you have a stud corner you can cheat with those safeties.

    The hope is that with Wlifork and Mayo in the middle doing what they do so effectively that allows everyone else to worry about different jobs. Second half of the season they've looked like a typical Belichick defense.
     
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    In Response to Re: The Improving Patriots' Defense:
    Good article. Vince has stepped up and become a leader. Like I speculated early in the season these guys would improve as the season progressed. Now after 16 games they do not play like rookies anymore. Guys like Mayo (though he's young, too) and Sanders have followed Wlifork's lead, and the young guys have been receptive. They have improved beyond my hopes, and are now one of the better defenses in the league. They are so far ahead of the rest of the league in turnover differential it's scary. Yesterday's games prove how important that is when you get to the postseason. They have also vastly improved in red zone defense, and many of their takeaways have occurred inside their own 20 yard line. As far as stopping the Jests ground game, it will be key. If Sanchez has to try and win this game with his arm it will be a slaughter! They also should have Spikes back, which will help out against the run. Vince will also be great if they do make it to Dallas. He went to the SB as a rookie, and he'll be able to help the young guys handle all the distractions. The sustained success of this team is due to veteran leadership and young guys who play smart. I don't see how the pundits can tout McCarthy for coach of the year when BB has done what he has with all these inexperienced players! This has truly been an amazing season, whatever happens going forward.
    Posted by bubthegrub2


    One thing that seems to be overlooked is the stats are based on the whole season. If the numbers were based on the last eight games, their rating as a defense would be considerably better.
     
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