The Jets......(A thread of laughs!)

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    I agree that the biggest problems for the Jets are structural: ownership and management. And thus, management and ownership catering to short term needs, getting press (positive or negative), selling PSL's etc. have destroyed the fabric of building a credible team from year to year. Yes, it is very possible another situation is in the making with the competition between Vick and Smith having the capacity to destroy Smith confidence similar to the Tebow effect on Sanchez. But, there is also the chance that Smith may rise above that and prove he can lead in a chaotic environment. Perhaps, that would qualify as a miracle?

    Anyway, the Jets are one of the most entertaining shows in the NFL and should be permanently installed on the TV show,"Hard Knocks" or have their own show like the Kardashians.

     
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    There is another story brewing in New Jersey. One that is not reported in the press but that local residents are discussing amongst themselves: the emergence of Matt Simms as a rival to Geno Smith at QB.

    Matt (son of Giants legend and CBS broadcaster, Phil Simms and brother of former NFL QB, Chris Simms) is a local kid who went to national sports powerhouse, Don Bosco Prep in Bergen County, NJ. After a mediocre college career spent at Louisville and Tennessee, Simms was invited by Ryan to try out for the team in 2012, mostly likely as a favor to Phil and CBS. Matt got a free agent contract, was cut after the preseason but invited back in 2013 where he made the 53 man roster. In 2013 he had an outstanding preseason completing almost 75% of his passes and threw a TD during the regular season. In general, he has looked as good as Smith and his accuracy/decision-making may be superior.  

    What I am saying is that there is incredible fan support for Simms and he is a wild card in the situation. Is Simms for real? I don't know how he would fare handling the test of leading a team for entire season? It is simply that he presents another rival to already insecure Smith. The fans calling for Simms again this year is a reality that does not create team stability.

     
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    Simms's athleticism does not equal Geno Smith's but the word out of Franklin Lakes, NJ is that Simms is relentless. He has been working 24/7, in season/out of season to take the job. He progressed beyond expectation to take the 3rd position away from McIlroy last year and looked very sharp in the first preseason game completing 72% of passes and leading the team downfield several times.

    Frankly, I am surprised. Based on HS and early college reports I thought Simms would end up as an entitled party boy son of a famous NFL QB. Now, I see he is for real. How far can he take it? I have no idea. What makes someone a Brady?

     
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    Simms's athleticism does not equal Geno Smith's but the word out of Franklin Lakes, NJ is that Simms is relentless. He has been working 24/7, in season/out of season to take the job. He progressed beyond expectation to take the 3rd position away from McIlroy last year and looked very sharp in the first preseason game completing 72% of passes and leading the team downfield several times.

    Frankly, I am surprised. Based on HS and early college reports I thought Simms would end up as an entitled party boy son of a famous NFL QB. Now, I see he is for real. How far can he take it? I have no idea. What makes someone a Brady?



           Seriously, does anybody see Geno Smith as the remedy for the Goblin's QB woes? Might as well give Sims a try.

         Besides QB, the Jests have a serious problem at CB. Though Dee Milliner's play improved toward the end of last season, and could carry over into this year, fellow starter Dimitri Patterson is a disaster. Here is how one Jet's writer judged Patterson's performance against the Colts:  

    "Dimitri Patterson didn't play well. It's August and the defense didn't game plan, but cornerback is a possible soft spot on the Jets' defense this year, and new addition Dimitri Patterson did little to alleviate that worry. Darryl Slater's got a more detailed story on Patterson's and Dee Milliner's nights at corner, but know this: Patterson fell on a third-and-11, allowing Andrew Luck to connect with Hakeem Nicks for a first down. He got smoked on third-and-6, and backup Matt Hasselbeck's deep ball for Da'Rick Rogers went for 45 yards. And he got flagged for holding away from a play in the third quarter. Keep in mind that without a game plan, Patterson was simply reacting, and in his defense, that's no small thing. But this will be something to watch in the weeks ahead."

         Let's see how long Patterson retains his starting spot in the Goblin secondary.

     
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    Tex

    Simms style of play (methodical, restrained, short timed passes) fits the Pats style of play more than the Jets. He plays more like a Pat than a Green Goblin, not surprising since his dad has him watching endless tapes of TB. The result is he is much quicker out of the huddle and is showing command over the offense.

    As for Smith, it is only fair to give him this year to see if what he has learned and if he can survive the chaos of the Jets.

     
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    Tex

    Simms style of play (methodical, restrained, short timed passes) fits the Pats style of play more than the Jets. He plays more like a Pat than a Green Goblin, not surprising since his dad has him watching endless tapes of TB. The result is he is much quicker out of the huddle and is showing command over the offense.

    As for Smith, it is only fair to give him this year to see if what he has learned and if he can survive the chaos of the Jets.



         Well, the heat on Geno is already rising, and not because the Jest's practices and exhibition games are being played during the Summer. Mike Lupica of the NY Daily News is already questioning the wisdom of the Jest's decision to hand the starting QB job to Geno, over Michael Vick:

    "But this whole thing is interesting, not because we’re talking about future Hall of Famers here, but because of how complicated it all is. Ask yourself this question: Which quarterback gives the Jets the best chance to make the playoffs this year, so the team doesn’t go four years under Rex Ryan without making the playoffs"?

     

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/lupica-jets-deep-geno-smith-article-1.1898351#ixzz39ztFL3On" rel="nofollow">http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/lupica-jets-deep-geno-smith-article-1.1898351#ixzz39ztFL3On

         This...and the season hasn't even started!! Wait til Smith starts turning the ball over in games that count...LOL!!!
     

     

     

     
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     Well, the heat on Geno is already rising, and not because the Jest's practices and exhibition games are being played during the Summer. Mike Lupica of the NY Daily News is already questioning the wisdom of the Jest's decision to hand the starting QB job to Geno, over Michael Vick:


    "But this whole thing is interesting, not because we’re talking about future Hall of Famers here, but because of how complicated it all is. Ask yourself this question: Which quarterback gives the Jets the best chance to make the playoffs this year, so the team doesn’t go four years under Rex Ryan without making the playoffs"?


     


    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/lupica-jets-deep-geno-smith-article-1.1898351#ixzz39ztFL3On" rel="nofollow">http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/lupica-jets-deep-geno-smith-article-1.1898351#ixzz39ztFL3On" rel="nofollow">http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/lupica-jets-deep-geno-smith-article-1.1898351#ixzz39ztFL3On" rel="nofollow">http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/lupica-jets-deep-geno-smith-article-1.1898351#ixzz39ztFL3On" rel="nofollow">http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/jets/lupica-jets-deep-geno-smith-article-1.1898351#ixzz39ztFL3On


         This...and the season hasn't even started!! Wait til Smith starts turning the ball over in games that count...LOL!!!
     


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    Well, the Jets have put themselves in an interesting situation at the QB position. They got Vick to mentor and motivate Smith but Vick appears as the better candidate to start. However, the Jets prefer to start Smith for 2 reasons: 1) they hope he is the future and want to him to get the experience; 2) they really want to test him and see if he is the future, can he handle the job and if not, move on next year or quickly after. The problem is the turbulence this creates. The writers have already picked up Vick is superior and no doubt the team knows it as well. Add the local HS talent Matt Simms to the mix as a surprising, gritty, hard working dark horse that fans are willing to scream for and this could be another circus like the previous 2 years.


    However, in an effort to be fair to Smith, he did lead the Jets to 3 victories to close the season at a respectable 8-8 and save Rex's job. And Vick still has his magical powers of escape-ability...and Rex, despite all his miscues, has players who play for him so I would never count them out.


    I think Jets management realizes the volatility of the situation but they are counting on Smith to mature from last year and rise above the uncertainty to lead them forward. Personally, I think this is a lot to ask of a 23 year old in media driven NY/NJ but remember, this is the Jets....And it is also the NFL where trial by fire and survival of the fittest rules...


     

     
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         Ut oh...the Jests 3rd round draft choice, CB Dexter McDougle, tore up his knee today in practice...and CB Dee Milliner, a/k/a the best CB in the game (just ask him), a/k/a "The Franchise", suffered the dreaded high ankle sprain, and reportedly was unable to put any weight on his ankle after being treated. He is expected to miss "a few weeks" (Translation - he'll miss the remainder of the preseason, and will be no where near ready for the season opener). 


         These injuries leaves Dimitri Patterson, discussed above in one of my earlier posts, as the Goblin's top corner. Not good:  http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/10/jets-lose-dee-milliner-dexter-mcdougle-to-injuries-at-practice/

     
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    I'm somewhat disappointed with Dee Shoulder Milliner for going down on his ankle, not his shoulder, and the same goes for Dexter McDougle who also busted his shoulder in college. 

    In general I recommend that teams not take college players with shoulder injuries.  They don't last.  They sit on the bench.  McDougle in particular is kind of small to last for long, once he gets his weight down. 

    In the meantime, playing overweight apparently wasn't that good for his ACL.  But, it's the Jets.  They regularly push players in preseason into injuries.  Let's see, they busted their Sanchize unnecessarily in preseason, and before that they gave one of their stars a preseason hammy that didn't go away all season because they pushed him back onto the field too early,....

     
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    Ohh....Are those excuses for Coples, Busty boy??!  Are they?  Hey!  Remember yesterday when I commented on Chris Jones having a a likely weakness in his ankle after a sprain and you said "one thing we know, Rusty will use that as an excuse all year"...?

     




     

    Remember that one, Mr. Phony?

     




     

    Now, you think you can apply that the 2012 #16 overall pick who Mike Mayock warned about being a bust, do ya?

     




     

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    Excsues?  No excuses Queenie.  I was rubbing it in your face that a player in a new position with a broken bone played better than Hightower.  My god, you're an idiot.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    You see Queenie, saying Mallet sucked because the Oline starters didn't play is an excuse.  Saying Coples played better than Hightower in spite of a broken bone is not.  Get it, moron?

     

     




    Umm, but he didn't play better than Hightower. Hightower had a very good rookie year and then filled in for Mayo last year, which is a huge responsibility.

     

     

    The fact you actually still think Coples was a good pick and to compare him to Hightower is laughable.

     

    Hightower is light years the better player.

     

    BB didn't even play him in preseason knowing what he has with his linebackers this year. That's how much better Hightower is than that bust Coples.

     

     

     



    So, what you're saying is that a first round pick, in his second year, was so poor at filling in for the average Mayo, getting torched by Jeff Cumberland in coverage and only managing 1 sack that you are using that as an excuse?  FOr the record, moron, Coples had more sacks than Hightower as a rookie too.  You keep coming back for more beatings.  You will never learn.

     

    #QueenieBludgeonedAgain   (and again and again...)

     




    Did you just call one of the best LBs in the AFC, the 2008 DPOY, a perennial Pro Bowler, "average"?

     

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    Bwahhahahahaha!  What a loser.  Once again, Queenie, I'm using your standards.  You called the DROY a bust.  You called Revis "average" after posting the best season a CB had ever had.  You claimed LT was "just awful" when he ran for 900 yards and caught 50 passes from Sanchez.  You see where I'm heading, Queen Bean? You are a hypocrite.

     

    Now you're trying to use this as a way to end this "exchange" when they real reason is that you got bludgeoned at every turn as you called Coples a bust when he out played Hightower in both seasons.  For the record, making the probowl TWO OUT OF SIX SEASONS does not make Mayo a "perennial Pro Bowler". You should look the word up.  That way you would look slightly less like the idiot you are. 

     

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    I never, ever called Richardson a bust.  I called Milliner one because he was benched 3 times in his rookie season.

    I also do not care if Mayo does not go every year to a Pro Bowl. He is clearly one of the best LBs in the Conference and plays at a Pro Bowl level every year.  The Pats saw how important he was when he got hurt last year.

    As for Revis, he was incredibly overrated by the press in NY and by the fans. Yes. He was/is an elite CB in the elite group, but he's not this guy who is in a Deion Sanders category as the preeminent best CB. He's not even as great a what Ty Law was.  He's had some great seasons, most notably when Red Ryan arrived in 2009, but that was his peak.

    He got hurt after holding out in 2010 and 2011 and then blew out his leg after getting chubby and lazy again being a distraction forcing his way out of NY and down to TB in 2013. That's not HOF material and while he was being selfish and destroying your franchise with Mark Sanchez to the delight off all the NFL, other CB were proving they were as good or even better. Their names are Peterson, Haden or someone like RIchard Sherman.

    The fact is, he has not had a great, full season since 2009, which was 5 years ago.  FIVE.

    He has a ton to prove and is not this Hall of Famer that people claim he is.  We shall see if he becomes one, but right now, that is preposterous and beyond arrogant to say that.  It will be funny though if he comes here and wins SBs, then going into the HOF as a PAtriot. Absolutely priceless if that happens. It will be revenge from the Curtis Martin situation, but the difference is Pats fan experience SBs and you never have, nor will you ever.

    EVER.

    It's like me saying Gronk is one right now. Well, he clearly has the potential to be, but he isn't right now.



    Revis is not a HOFer?  But you said just a few days ago he was.  Get your story straight Bean Queen.  If your posting, you're lying.

    Revis, traded away to Tampa for a first round pick, will be a revenge for Curtis Martin from about 15 years ago?  My god, you're an idiot.




    No, no. I said he has a chance to become one here and that possibility would drive you and other Jets fans berserk, which is the beautiful part of it. lol

    Yes, if Revis finishes here and wins a SB or two, it will not only drive you to the nuthouse for good, but he will go to Canton as a Patriot, not a crappy Jet.

    That would make like 4 or 5 Pats players alone to go in under BB, and then BB goes in as well as Kraft. LOL

    How does that feel knowing this?

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    How the fiotch do you know this? Are all your premonitions true? You've missed on as many as your sco#um swinging BB stuffed doll. Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

     
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    I never, ever called Richardson a bust.  I called Milliner one because he was benched 3 times in his rookie season.

    I also do not care if Mayo does not go every year to a Pro Bowl. He is clearly one of the best LBs in the Conference and plays at a Pro Bowl level every year.  The Pats saw how important he was when he got hurt last year.

    As for Revis, he was incredibly overrated by the press in NY and by the fans. Yes. He was/is an elite CB in the elite group, but he's not this guy who is in a Deion Sanders category as the preeminent best CB. He's not even as great a what Ty Law was.  He's had some great seasons, most notably when Red Ryan arrived in 2009, but that was his peak.

    He got hurt after holding out in 2010 and 2011 and then blew out his leg after getting chubby and lazy again being a distraction forcing his way out of NY and down to TB in 2013. That's not HOF material and while he was being selfish and destroying your franchise with Mark Sanchez to the delight off all the NFL, other CB were proving they were as good or even better. Their names are Peterson, Haden or someone like RIchard Sherman.

    The fact is, he has not had a great, full season since 2009, which was 5 years ago.  FIVE.

    He has a ton to prove and is not this Hall of Famer that people claim he is.  We shall see if he becomes one, but right now, that is preposterous and beyond arrogant to say that.  It will be funny though if he comes here and wins SBs, then going into the HOF as a PAtriot. Absolutely priceless if that happens. It will be revenge from the Curtis Martin situation, but the difference is Pats fan experience SBs and you never have, nor will you ever.

    EVER.

    It's like me saying Gronk is one right now. Well, he clearly has the potential to be, but he isn't right now.



    Revis is not a HOFer?  But you said just a few days ago he was.  Get your story straight Bean Queen.  If your posting, you're lying.

    Revis, traded away to Tampa for a first round pick, will be a revenge for Curtis Martin from about 15 years ago?  My god, you're an idiot.




    No, no. I said he has a chance to become one here and that possibility would drive you and other Jets fans berserk, which is the beautiful part of it. lol

    Yes, if Revis finishes here and wins a SB or two, it will not only drive you to the nuthouse for good, but he will go to Canton as a Patriot, not a crappy Jet.

    That would make like 4 or 5 Pats players alone to go in under BB, and then BB goes in as well as Kraft. LOL

    How does that feel knowing this?

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How the fiotch do you know this? Are all your premonitions true? You've missed on as many as your sco#um swinging BB stuffed doll. Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaa



     No...Revis isn't Hall of Fame material. Dee Milliner, a/k/a the greatest CB in the NFL (want proof, just ask him!), a/k/a "The Franchise", is.  Just wait to he gets healthy. He'll show y'all!!

     LOL!!!!

 

 
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