The last piece of the puzzle is John Abraham

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    The last piece of the puzzle is John Abraham

    Time to get it done. Looking forward to the season.

     
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    Time to get it done. Looking forward to the season.




    There must be something there. He's not taking visits that I've seen. Him, Freeney and Lloyd arn't attracting many hits it seems.

     
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    Time to get it done. Looking forward to the season.

     




     

    There must be something there. He's not taking visits that I've seen. Him, Freeney and Lloyd arn't attracting many hits it seems.



    they might have overplayed their hands or as vets just waiting until right before camp starts so they don't have to go to the OTA's. That's the thing about Abraham, he's older and already made tons of money so he doesn't need to sign with any team. If he doesn't feel the need to play he can wait for the money he wants and if he doesn't get it retire happily.

     
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    Time to get it done. Looking forward to the season.

     




     

    There must be something there. He's not taking visits that I've seen. Him, Freeney and Lloyd arn't attracting many hits it seems.

     



    they might have overplayed their hands or as vets just waiting until right before camp starts so they don't have to go to the OTA's. That's the thing about Abraham, he's older and already made tons of money so he doesn't need to sign with any team. If he doesn't feel the need to playhe can wait for the money he wants and if he doesn't get it retire happily.

     



    Seems a lot of proven vets have taken this route lately.  Go out, see what the market is for you, continue to do your due diligence for higher suitors, wait until July/early August and sign with a team so you can skip OTAs/come late to training camp.  These guys know how unbearable training camp can be and they know how to play the game so it's not as if training camp is a necessity for them. 

     
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    Im guessing at this point it must be physical. I mean how many teams really NEED him?? Im guessing a handful and if his price is too high, a team would just draft a young guy instead of overpaying for a one year guy.

    I guess getting Abe isnt imperative but I would like to see someone added. I think the problem is the pats dont want to overpay for a situational guy but pics like Bequette may not be ready this year. I think C.J. coming back improved helps alot and the CFL guys too, and at this point, BB may be set on what he has now and maybe bring in the B.A.P. via UDFA like Markel Carter and hope he hits on a diamond in the ruff. I know BB isnt gonna draft strictly a pass rusher so if anything, just draft another CB and more D-line help and I would be happy. Get a real rotation and allow us to see less of Love. I dont think we need a DE, but a versatile DT to learn under Kelley and Fork would be great

     
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    Time to get it done. Looking forward to the season.




    +1

     
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    Time to get it done. Looking forward to the season.



    I belive this has been refered to as "BB laying in the weeds"...and once he pounces, we are supposed to be "giddy"

     
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    John Abraham is NOT the last piece of the puzzle. I wouldn't touch him honestly for anything more than the vets MINIMUM................there is only one remaining DT/DE that IMO is worth bringing in for more than the vet min.............................RICHARD SEYMOUR. He is younger, he is stronger, and he would be a perfect compliment on the line to Wilfork/Love,Jones...........the big question is why the Patriots haven't kicked the tires on him? Did he burn his bridges in NE totally?

     

      

     
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    Even if Seymour didn't completely hate us (and last time he was asked it was pretty clear he still did) he will never come back here.  The guy has his 3 rings.  He just wants money.  Not our MO.

     
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    Even if Seymour didn't completely hate us (and last time he was asked it was pretty clear he still did) he will never come back here.  The guy has his 3 rings.  He just wants money.  Not our MO.

     


    Even if he just wanted "the money" its clear his big paydays are over. Noone has even approached him with contract talks or an offer yet. Last word on interest was the Falcons a month earlier.

     

     
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    I think Abraham and BB have a verbal agreement in place already, its pure speculation, but many deals Belichick has negotiated with older, productive end of the line vets he has done so with a handshake.

     
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    John Abraham is NOT the last piece of the puzzle. I wouldn't touch him honestly for anything more than the vets MINIMUM................there is only one remaining DT/DE that IMO is worth bringing in for more than the vet min.............................RICHARD SEYMOUR. He is younger, he is stronger, and he would be a perfect compliment on the line to Wilfork/Love,Jones...........the big question is why the Patriots haven't kicked the tires on him? Did he burn his bridges in NE totally?

     

      

    in a word YUP!


     
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    I think Abraham and BB have a verbal agreement in place already, its pure speculation, but many deals Belichick has negotiated with older, productive end of the line vets he has done so with a handshake.

     




    That would explain "the agreement" phrase when he was here.  BB said "here is our offer, we want you, but go shopping. Let us know and we'll revisit after the draft".

     

    I somewhat agree with you. The only other element is Atlanta. Why move your family for 1 year if the money is the same in NE and Atlanta? Atlanta is loaded and ready for another run

     



    That I think is the real issue. Abraham is waiting to see if NE would make moving worthwhile.

     
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    I think teams are are also waiting to see how the draft falls and what they need after the draft, especially with the older FAs who are really just short term fixes. So if the Pats get a great offer for pick 29 and end up drafting CBs and WRs, and OLs, then they need Abraham as a bridge to next years draft. If they don't trade out of the 1st round and end up with a stud DE, then there interest is going to be less in an older DE.

    Cuts both way for the players as well - there will be a few teams after the draft desperate to fill a hole they didn't get in the draft, and other teams that no longer have interest.

     
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    Seymour should not come back. If we're going to sign "value" guys who spend half their time bathtubs filled with ice, which seems to be our preferred MO, we need to sign those who have a burning desire to get a ring. I will never be at peace that Junior didn't get his with us. #RIP

     
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    John Abraham is NOT the last piece of the puzzle. I wouldn't touch him honestly for anything more than the vets MINIMUM................there is only one remaining DT/DE that IMO is worth bringing in for more than the vet min.............................RICHARD SEYMOUR. He is younger, he is stronger, and he would be a perfect compliment on the line to Wilfork/Love,Jones...........the big question is why the Patriots haven't kicked the tires on him? Did he burn his bridges in NE totally?

     

      




     
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    Seymour was being very lazy on the field before we shipped him out to Oakland. You could see that he wasn't really trying. We don't need him back. I had great respect for him before he showed that type of attitude. Good luck to him playing somewhere else.

     
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    Time to get it done. Looking forward to the season.

     



    I belive this has been refered to as "BB laying in the weeds"...and once he pounces, we are supposed to be "giddy"

     

     

     

    Bill Belichick in the offseason . . . 


     
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    Time to get it done. Looking forward to the season.

     



    I belive this has been refered to as "BB laying in the weeds"...and once he pounces, we are supposed to be "giddy"

     

     

     

    Bill Belichick in the offseason . . . 




    I bet he'd be fun on my flyrod. 

     
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    Time to get it done. Looking forward to the season.

     



    I belive this has been refered to as "BB laying in the weeds"...and once he pounces, we are supposed to be "giddy"

     

     

     

    Bill Belichick in the offseason . . . 


     



    I bet he'd be fun on my flyrod. 

     



    Oh yeah

     
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