Re: The Pats are 18-4...
posted at 11/23/2011 10:33 AM EST
In Response to Re: The Pats are 18-4...
[QUOTE]You do realize that is what #85 does, correct? You have every analyst saying that right now, including Cris Carter a HOF WR, so we know he can do it. They just don't play him. last week it was Price over Ocho and a boatload of spread/shotgun, so he's not on the field. The fact is, our run game, play action, Welker, Branch, Gronk, the O Line, EVERYONE, benefits from the Weis base with someone like Ocho on one of the flanks. I would rotate in Ocho and Hernandez on that left flank and just run plays from under Center. Each commands single coverage where they absolutely will beat it It's up to Brady to look somewhere else besides just down the middle expecting Gronk or Welker to break free from man. We've had this same discussion for over a month now. Only Brady can change this. We've got to stop this Welker/Gronk infatuation because it will be contained in January. Ocho would be a threat if given reps and if he's targeted. Brady is spoiled by Welker and Gronk. Absolute truth. All NE losses since dealing Moss have been in the base shotgun/spread.
Posted by RidingWithTheKing[/QUOTE]
Rusty - now Gronkowski is part of the problem?? - The depths you will plumb to find fault with Tom Brady are mind boggling
I think there were a couple of instances in the NYG and Jets games where Brady tried to force the ball into Gronk - but in general, the Pats are getting it to him because he is simply the biggest matchup challenge for the opposing team
I have been saying since the first Jets game this year that the Pats are going to need to switch it up on offense because the Jets gave the league the blueprint in the playoffs on how to slow down the offense - challenge the receivers coming off the line, extra DB's and funnel all the plays to the center of the field - do you see the camera shots from directly behind Brady when they are shown - the center of the field is flooded with defense
Now - there are many on this site who are saying that the Pats need to establish the run to help the passing game - that may be true of the screen game - but what the Pats really need to do is take more shots down the field - make other teams believe they will do it - that will open up the box and make Welker/Branch more effective - especially with run after catch
The reason why the O worked so long last year is that teams getting ready to play the Pats had 3+ year of film with the Pats having a legit outside presence in Moss and a willingness to take shots down the field - that forced the D to play farther away from the line - opening the underneath for Welker, screen game and running game
NYJ in the playoffs changed all that - they re formulated the strategy and after the first 2 series they did slow the Pats down - the Pats didn't successfully adjust
The reason that the Pats were strong on O early this year was the lockout interrupted a lot of new game planning that would have gone on normally in the off season
Look at how every team is playing the Pats now - every single team is playing their backs close to the line - challenging/re routing receivers, and they are flooding the center of field - there is no space for a running game or underneath pass routes
The Pats game planning has not adjusted - the Pats are well known for tailoring their defensive game plan weekly to the opponent - but they are becoming equally well known for being stangant and slow to change in their offensive game planning
Now - I am not writing this because I want Moss back - the Pats don't need him - but the Pats are going to have to decide whether they think Ocho or Price can be effective running the deep route and the Pats are going to have to take some shots
People on this site are willing to say that the Pats should be willing to run ball even when they are getting stuffed because it will set things up later in the game - so to should be willing to go vertical more with the pass game to open things up