Re: The Pats are failing, and few want to look at the main reason!!
posted at 11/3/2011 12:07 AM EDT
In Response to Re: The Pats are failing, and few want to look at the main reason!!
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: The Pats are failing, and few want to look at the main reason!! : First of all I didn't say the D stunk, 2nd, the Pats Defense in the SB era had their moments of not being so great in the SB of all games. Read what I wrote again, and don't jump to conclusions. That Defense stunk as bad as any D in history in the 4th Quarter of the most important game of the year, SB 38 vs the Panthers. They gave up 19 points in the 4th as Jake Delhomme made mince meat out of our great D. Brady had to give his all and he did, and he would not do it today if the same thing happens again unless he finds that old part of him, the cool clutch guy he USE to be. That D also had a 17-3 lead in SB 36 vs the Rams going into the 4th Q and the D gave up 14 straight points forcing that unbelievable drive by TB w/ 1:30 left in the game. The Eagles if McNabb didn't choke or get sick or whatever what was happening to him, was giving us a run for our money staying close and our D was a bit suspect going down the stretch. Brady did what was needed with far better clutch receivers than ours today, and Brady was a far better QB in tight situations back then and now he can't even score in the playoffs. He gets down by 7 vs the Ravens in 09 1st round and the game was over and everyone knew it. 24-0? At the end of the 1st Q I believe. It is never just the D when that happens. The offense has to fight back, take some time off the clock or something and it hasn't since who knows when, and the Ravens kept getting the ball back 3 and out and so of course the D is going to be out there. I am not saying they had to blame, but the offense did nothing to support it and TB runs that offense. So please don't throw dumb stats which have nothing to do with anything. The SB D in the playoffs had some very rough stretches that this Brady of today would not be able to withstand. The Brady of the SB era would have fought the Ravens in 09 and at least kept us in the game for a while. He always looked as if he had a 35 point lead, and now he goes down by 7 early and you can see a passive look on his face behind his intensity. I love the guy, and all I am saying is I will take the old/younger Brady over the player he is today. He had magic! Todays Brady reminds me of Peyton Manning, and the other Joe Montana. Todays Brady won 2 MVPs, Passer Rating, led in TD passes etc, and his offense scored tons of points crushing teams, and that young kid won 3 SBs with some of the most incredible clutch play ever with a great D that had some very scary moments late in the game in all 3 SB wins.
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This is a great post and great response. Our defense actually had trouble in the 4rth qtr of every SB we were in. Brady led us to the points we needed to win in each of them.
Personally I don't agree with you that Brady couldn't lead us to comeback wins like the old days. I really think that great coaching helps great players play better. Brady has not had great offensive coaching since Charlie left for Notre Dame.
Brady is a better QB then he was then, but without a coach telling him valuable information that only a coach could know, then this offense will not be able to play to potential.
Lately when we miss great offensive coaching the most, is in the biggest games of the season, and are playing the best defensive co.'s. We have been out coached defensively in each of our past 3 playoff games, and I think this is the biggest hole in our system, not drafting, not FA pick ups, and certainly not Tom Brady.
I believe as Rich Gannon was just commenting on a few days back, that since the days of Josh MCD in the 07 SB we abandon one half of the offense at the earliest signs of trouble. This being the run game.
We have been doing this consistently since the passing assault Brady put on. Unfortunately it has made our offense one dimensional, and let teams develop a way to limit us. They do it by cheating toward the pass and hoping that we don't wise up......we don't.
I think we both agree we want the offense of old, unpredictable and plays the game close to the vest. Offense and defense compliment each other, and right now that is not happening.
So I guess in a way I am agreeing with you, that this offense has not been clutch like the offense of old, but I blame it more on a lack of coaching and game planning, then a lack of Brady's skills.
Anyway, I thought you had some good observations, and the guy you were talking to was off.