The Pats should trade Gronk and Wilfork

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    Re: The Pats should trade Gronk and Wilfork


    If the Gronk continues to self destruct with injuries his career will be very short... Wilfolk will never wear the colors of another team IMHO...

     
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    Re: The Pats should trade Gronk and Wilfork

    In response to sml1210's comment:

    Not sure you want to go there....

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    Yes, I do want to go there. Yes, they both won two championships since the Pats' but where is their consistency? Belichick is clearly a better GM.

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    Although I think that Gronk is doing his best Jeremy Shockey impersination by getting hurt all the time... he has one thing over Shockey... he is the best tight end in the game when he is not on an operation table.  If we still had the serial killer in at tight end, I might think about it... but we have HooMan and crickets chirping behind him. 

    The thing is, the NFL isn't like MLB... trades like this with superstar players almost never happen.  If some team wanted to give us a Herschel Walker / Rickey Williams type trade that is one thing... but if we look back at the Atlanta Falcons deal for Tony Gonzalez and it appears as though that is one of the worst trades by KC in NFL history.  That netted KC a second round pick and Gonzalez has gone on to be a beast with Atlanta at a much older age than Gronk.

     

     
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    they would just get 1st round picks.  trade out.  and get 4ths and 5ths and crappy players.  no thanks

     
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    Be realistic.  No team is going to trade for a DL with a bad foot, or a tight end with a bad knee.  The only trade I might see happening this year is Mallett.  Some team may see him as more field ready than the QB's coming out of college.  This draft is deep in the QB area but drops off fast after the first few are selected.

     
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    Re: The Pats should trade Gronk and Wilfork

    In response to digger0862's comment:

    In response to sml1210's comment:

    Not sure you want to go there....

     

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    Yes, I do want to go there. Yes, they both won two championships since the Pats' but where is their consistency? Belichick is clearly a better GM.

     

    Steelers
    2013 6-8
    2012 8-8 missed playoffs
    2011 12-4 0-1 playoffs
    2010 12-4 2-1 playoffs
    2009 9-7 missed playoffs
    2007 10-6 0-1 playoffs
    2006 8-8 missed playoffs
    2004 15-1 1-1 playoffs

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    2013 5-9
    2012 9-7 missed playoffs
    2010 10-6 missed playoffs
    2009 8-8 missed playoffs
    2008 12-4 0-1 playoffs
    2006 8-8 0-1 playoffs
    2005 11-5 0-1 playoffs
    2004 6-10 missed playoffs

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    2012 12-4 1-1 playoffs
    2011 13-3 2-1 playoffs
    2010 14-2 0-1 playoffs
    2009 10-6 0-1 playoffs
    2008 11-5 missed playoffs
    2007 16-0 2-1 playoffs
    2006 12-4 2-1 playoffs
    2005 10-6 1-1 playoffs
    2004 14-2 Super Bowl Champions




    Great post . . . and in '08 when they missed there was no Brady and they became only the 2nd team to go 11-5 and not make the playoff . . .     who else has won 130 games in the last 10 years . . . who has come close?

     
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    Re: The Pats should trade Gronk and Wilfork

    In response to Footballexpert45's comment:

    The Pats should really consider trading Gronk this upcoming offseason.  They could still get a high draft pick, maybe even a 1st.  They could then take Gronk pay and give it to a top safety in the FA or even draft.  

    Wilfork still has value, so trade him now for picks, and use his salary on other needs.  Re-signing Talib and Edelman would be #1.

    I know people are going to strongly disagree, but these players cannot be relied on to stay healthy for an entire NFL season, and you cannot afford waste so much $$ when other needs must be filled.

     




    Thanks for proving that people who have to call themselves experts usually don't know what they're talking about

     
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    Re: The Pats should trade Gronk and Wilfork

    In response to tenace4life's comment:

    In response to digger0862's comment:

    In response to sml1210's comment:

    Not sure you want to go there....

     

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    Yes, I do want to go there. Yes, they both won two championships since the Pats' but where is their consistency? Belichick is clearly a better GM.

     

    Steelers
    2013 6-8
    2012 8-8 missed playoffs
    2011 12-4 0-1 playoffs
    2010 12-4 2-1 playoffs
    2009 9-7 missed playoffs
    2007 10-6 0-1 playoffs
    2006 8-8 missed playoffs
    2004 15-1 1-1 playoffs

    Giants
    2013 5-9
    2012 9-7 missed playoffs
    2010 10-6 missed playoffs
    2009 8-8 missed playoffs
    2008 12-4 0-1 playoffs
    2006 8-8 0-1 playoffs
    2005 11-5 0-1 playoffs
    2004 6-10 missed playoffs

    Patriots
    2013 10-4
    2012 12-4 1-1 playoffs
    2011 13-3 2-1 playoffs
    2010 14-2 0-1 playoffs
    2009 10-6 0-1 playoffs
    2008 11-5 missed playoffs
    2007 16-0 2-1 playoffs
    2006 12-4 2-1 playoffs
    2005 10-6 1-1 playoffs
    2004 14-2 Super Bowl Champions




    Great post . . . and in '08 when they missed there was no Brady and they became only the 2nd team to go 11-5 and not make the playoff . . .     who else has won 130 games in the last 10 years . . . who has come close?




    The Patriots own three different records for having the most wins in a decade.  The 49rs are the team that had the record previously that we broke.  We then broke our own record twice afterwards.

     
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