The Roethlisberger Files: This is getting interesting...

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    [QUOTE]zbellino wrote: "Even if she invented the whole story, he should have just waited for trial. And as far as counter-suit goes, it is so immoral I think it should be illegal. What kind of message are we sending? That if you come forward you could have your life ruined?  Terrible." What? You think it is OK that someone could accuse an individual of something terrible, ask for damages, yet that individual should have no recourse (a countersuit) to protect their name and reputation if the accusations are false. Don't fool yourself that every "victim" out there is telling the truth. I've seen plenty of times where one spouse accuses the other of abuse for leverage in a divorce case. Names, dates, times, the whole nine yards, yet in the end all the claims are false or grossly exaggerated.  I don't know about you, but if someone accuses me of something I didn't do, drags my name through the media, you better bet I'm countersuing them for millions in damages. As others have pointed out, she is not just asking for $400,000. She is also asking for unspecified punitive damages that may amount into the millions.
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    BINGO!!!
    BINGO!!!
    On all points, BINGO!!!
     
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    "THE ABOVE STORY IS TOTAL BS, AND MADE UP ON THE FLY AS I TYPED.  PROOF THAT IT IS REALLY QUITE EASY TO MAKE UP A STORY WITH A LOT OF DETAIL."

    JK Rowling became a billionaire doing exactly that.


    Turns out she is actually asking for nearly $3,000,000.  That's a good start toward Rowling riches.
    http://www.rgj.com/article/20090826/NEWS18/90826031/1321/NEWS

    If it turns out that this whole attack was fabricated, this woman better be mentally ill or she should be disowned by her sisterhood as another gold digger who keeps serious claims from getting the objectivity they deserve. 

     
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    Another article that points towards his accuser being full of sh%t.  Here is the link: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/08/27/bens-accuser-has-a-big-problem/

    A couple good sections of the article:

    "We've now obtained the e-mails that were attached to the affidavit submitted by Harrah's director of security Guy Hyder, and it sure looks to us as if the claims were grossly exaggerated at best, flat-out made up at worst."

    "So a jury is ultimately going to be asked to believe that Roethlisberger used a broken television as cover for getting the accuser into his room when, in reality, a day before the alleged deed she was musing about using a broken telvision as cover for getting into his room."
     
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    where is MVPkilla now?
     
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    If Ben was a man he would have kept saying it will come out in court and when it does you will all know the truth!

    In every story I have read or seen, this is exactly what Ben is saying. It's the lawyers who dig up the dirt, that is how they operate...on both sides. Don't think her lawyers aren't digging around Ben's past as well! In any case, it looks as though they have found numerous incidents of her bragging about doing the guy! I seriously doubt she will win any case, civil or criminal. But we'll see when (and if) the case goes to court.
     
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    Right on, Bub. 

    And more importantly, when a public figure is charged the case becomes a public matter and an altogether separate case gets tried in the court of public opinion. 

    If both of these individuals were no names, this thread would not exist. 

    Ben's very public status requires him and his lawyers to wage this battle publicly.  Part of Ben's income is earned through commercial endorsements because he is a public figure.  If he does not respond immediately and publicly he jeopardizes (and in some cases, the suit alone may do this) a large portion of his own income by not acting publicly. 

    The good news for her is that, as Bub said, her lawyers are digging through his closet, as well.  For her sake, they better find something, because right now things are not looking good. 
     
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    They may well find a skeleton or two in his closets. But unless there is something specifically related to this incident, it won'd do much good. All the damning evidence against her is related to the case at hand. That is much more convincing than things done in the past. If she did indeed write all those e-mails I wouldn't be surprised to see the entire case dropped...and she'll never work in the state of Nevada again!
     
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    [QUOTE]Her case is now falling to pieces at an exponential rate.  It turns out that casinos, much like the defense contractors I have worked for, keep record of all of the emails ever sent.  So in the latest filing by some of the casino workers seeking to dismiss the case, yet more emails accompanied the filing.  In this case, the accuser was joking about having sex with Ben.  Quite contrary to someone depressed and trying to get the casino workers to take action, she was jovial and joking. Assuming that these emails, and the ones released by Ben's attorneys last week are authentic, her case is toast.  While I still cannot say with 100% certainty she is a liar and gold digger, if I lean in that direction any further my nose will touch the ground.  Geez, I wonder how she was able to recall such great details about her rape, her pain, and her suffering in light of the evidence starting to unsurface?  She couldn't have made up such details could she?  Let me give it a try.  I'm going to make up a story about a gorilla raping me at the San diego zoo on the fly. On August 18th at 1:20 PM I was observing the gorillas at the San Diego zoo.  It was a typical zoo visit.  At about 1:35 Janet Hawes, a senior caretaker at the zoo approached me to ask me if I wanted to see the gorillas up close and personal.  At first I was in disbelief.  I thought someone was pulling a prank on me.  They don't let visitors get close to the gorillas.  After questioning Janet's credentials, she showed me her identification and spoke in great detail about the gorillas at the zoo.  She was telling me about one of the adult males names Azizi, and the new baby gorilla named Frank.  I now believed Janet was who she said she was and started to realize what a great opportunity I had.  How many visitors are afforded the opportunity to see a gorilla up close and personal. Janet guided me through a gate about a 100 yards from the gorilla area.  We walked along a paved service road to an area that she explained was the rear area of the gorilla enclosure.  I was quite surprised.  This area looked nothing like the "public" area of the zoo.  It was actually quite cluttered, almost dirty.  In front of us was a caged area connected to the main enclosure by a steel gate.  Janet explained how this is where they inspect the gorillas and provide them with nutritional supplements.  She asked me to wait outside while she lures a gorilla inside the area with a special treat.  It looks like a mixture of bananas and some sort of grass-like material.  She entered the enclosure, place a pan with the food on it on the ground, and rang a bell.  Three gorillas were attracted to the noise of the bell and gathered around the gate.  She prodded away two of the gorillas with a long thin stick and allowed one gorilla, and older male, to enter the enclosure.   Janet told me it was unsafe for me to enter right away.  She let the male gorilla eat the food mixture for about 15 minutes before I could enter.  I was very nervous.  The gorilla was huge, and didn't look very friendly.  I wanted to decline her offer but she kept insisting that I would be alright.  I was reluctant to believe her but she seemed to know what she was doing.  I entered the enclosure while she kept the gorilla preoccupied with an old tire.  The gorilla approached me quickly; nearly causing me to defecate myself.  At that moment the funniest thing happened.  He placed his hand on top of my head almost as if he was petting me.  It worked!  I actually started to calm down.  I thought to myself "how cool is this".  Nobody will believe me.  Janet gave me a banana and asked me to feed it to the gorilla.  By this time I was relaxed and was quite willing to try it.  I was feeding the gorilla for about 3 minutes when suddenly I noticed that Janet was outside of the enclosure, and I was still inside.  Now I was back to feeling uneasy.  Janet strangely told me that the gorilla was gay, and if he doesn't have pleasure at least once a year, he will turn mean and become overly aggressive towards the other gorillas.  Was this a joke I thought?  I pleaded with Janet to stop the joke and let me out.  Before I could even finish my plea she had disappeared around the corner.  Before I could yell to her one more time I was slapped to the ground by the gorilla.  I looked up to see a massive beast towering over me with a concrete slong protruding.  I tried to escape but every time I tried to get up he would just slapped me down.  The gorilla dry humped me until he climaxed.  I was dirty, humiliated, and had scratches on my face and body.   Janet returned, prodded the gorilla to leave, and let me out of the enclosure.  I was furious.  Janet explained to me that nobody would believe my story if I reported it to anyone.  She escorted me back to the public area and warned me to maintain my silence.  She warned me about the public humiliation I would face if I reported what had happened.  Three months went by.  I tried to put this incident behind me but I couldn't.  I was missing days at work and paying for therapy.  I finally reported the incident to the director of the zoo, Richard Farrar.  Richard did not believe my story.  I guess I couldn't blame him.  Somehow though, I felt he did believe me, but he just wanted to cover it up.  On November 7th, at 9:00 AM I had a meeting with both Richard and Janet.  Janet denied everything but I caught the two giving each other a wink once when I was drinking from a glass of water.  After our meeting, Richard asked me to leave the office while he and Janet discussed an unrelated matter in private.  Janet left the office about 10 minutes later.  She gave me a smirk as she departed.  Richard called me back into the office and provided me with a thinly veiled warning.  He explained that the San Diego zoo has a reputation for being one of the leading zoos in the world.  He said that the zoo would take stern legal action to protect its reputation.  He said that if I went public with my accusations they would counter-sue to the fullest extent possible.  If I went public I better have proof.  I was scared.  I had no proof.  I was so embarrassed that day that I went straight home.  I didn't see anyone that day, and I still hadn't told a soul. THE ABOVE STORY IS TOTAL BS, AND MADE UP ON THE FLY AS I TYPED.  PROOF THAT IT IS REALLY QUITE EASY TO MAKE UP A STORY WITH A LOT OF DETAIL.
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    AND LIKE I SAID.. The place for any and all of this stuff is IN COURT..... Where the deciders of what is fact and what is just some Big Burly Football player trying to overwhelm his opposition sit....

    I am not against BEN... I am not for the Accuser.... I AM FOR THE LEGAL system and trying a case in the newpaper always makes me think that the one who is doing the Sliming is a LYING S_O_B.   However, I await the court's decision on it.... and if (and I hope he is) found innocent I won;t even think the slightest bad thought about Ben- I will be full of compassion for the psycho and hope she gets help.

    However there are also a TON of Guys who think No means well sure if you want to.  It is not at all out of the realm of possibility that he did something .... any more than it is that she is lying.

     
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    wws - I agree with you that all of this will and should come out in court except for the fact that I believe part of Ben's livlihood depends on how quickly and effectively he responds to the charges.  If he says nothing publicly and simply waits, I believe all of his endorsement contracts get torn up leaving a big hole in his income. 

    If this story is fabricated, does Ben deserve to lose all of that money and, at least temporarily, his reputation simply because he waited until trial to defend himself against the charges?  
     
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    Put the rapist in jail if that is what he is. I want to know the truth
     
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    [QUOTE]Put the rapist in jail if that is what he is. I want to know the truth
    Posted by crono420[/QUOTE]Count on this getting swept under the rug once the woman gets paid off just like Manning's sexual harassment suits. Goodell isn't interested on punishing the Steelers like he did to the Pats.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: The Roethlisberger Files: This is getting interesting... : Count on this getting swept under the rug once the woman gets paid off just like Manning's sexual harassment suits. Goodell isn't interested on punishing the Steelers like he did to the Pats.
    Posted by flasox[/QUOTE]
    count on flasox stirring up the anti colts debate. 

    Condemn Manning (as I know you will) if you think he deserves it for a sophomoric college prank, but relating the two is irresponsible and smacks of the worst kind of trollism. 

    Its sad.  I rag on pats fans for legitimate football related things (all in fun) and yet because there is little to take the colts to task about, some of you out of frustration (I assume) choose to slam Dungy for his son's suicide or (as here) relate Manning's college prank to rape.  

    Pathetic.  Just admit you've got nothing and don't post.
     
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    We have stuff, don't say we don't have stuff, 'cause we have stuff lots of it like...like umm Polian having the rules enforced (the nerve of him),or or hang on a minute, how about those lousy seats in oil Slick stadium huh? huh? we have the goods buddy lots of it you just wait see what I'll google upCool



     
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: The Roethlisberger Files: This is getting interesting... : count on flasox stirring up the anti colts debate.  Condemn Manning (as I know you will) if you think he deserves it for a sophomoric college prank, but relating the two is irresponsible and smacks of the worst kind of trollism.  Its sad.  I rag on pats fans for legitimate football related things (all in fun) and yet because there is little to take the colts to task about, some of you out of frustration (I assume) choose to slam Dungy for his son's suicide or (as here) relate Manning's college prank to rape.   Pathetic.  Just admit you've got nothing and don't post.
    Posted by underdogg[/QUOTE]Too bad you can't stand the truth about Manning. The facts are that Manning and the University of Tennesse paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to settle a sexual harassment suit involving his actions which I doubt you would condone if it was your mother or sister involved. I challenge you to prove otherwise.
    By the way my intention in the post was that Goodell has selective handling for players on his favored teams not that Manning's proven behavior was equivalent to Rothlesberger's alleged behavior.  But since you bring it up at this point in time Rothlesberger is innocent of his crime which more than you can say for Peyton.

    So you have become an expert on trolling now. You come on a Pats site and continually make gratuitious remarks about Belichick's behavior and don't consider it trolling. That's hypocricy worthy of your sanctimonious ex-head coach.  If you can't take the truth about Peyton or Dungy, just stay on the Colts site. Nobody here will follow you there or miss you either.
     
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