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Recounted ad nauseum, but you still seem to want to get on that horse.  You've got the same problem Russ has from a different angle.  You won't admit that your perspective could be flawed.  Maybe you should rephrase - As has been recounted to all numerous times, without Gronk, Brady struggles at times against good teams. 

Brady's got many other quality receivers.  Welker, Hernandez, Branch, Lloyd, etc.  Brady had 5 guys with more than 40 catches this year.  That's phenomenal.    

More ad nauseum lies and spin from a troll with an agenda about his hero, the sex offender.

No effective running, dropped passes, receivers who couldn't get separation, lame blocking and poor defense were the order of the day. Any other presentation of the facts are lies. You're a liar so it is no surprise you dispute this.

I certainly haven't said Brady was great. But how could he possibly be that with the ineptitude displayed by everyone around him.

Troll set straight for being the lying chump that he is.

You may not understand the rules.  Anyone can be cut.

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I think the offense scoring less than 40% of its current year's average demonstrates the problem significantly more effectively than your failed efforts to discredit my points.  21% more points is only 3.7 pts.  The pats averaged 35 pts and only put up 13 pts.  I don't recall the pats having much trouble executing the prior week without Gronkowski.

I suspect even a troll like you understands what an average is. The offense averaged 27 ppg for the playoffs despite the Gronk absence. That's 22% under their season average. The defense allowed 28 ppg in the playoffs. That's 35% morepoints than their season average.

Troll bludgeoned again.

Averages aside. The Patriots Defense gave up 28 or more points 5 times prior to the Ravens loss. The offense scored 13 or fewer ZERO times prior.

The offense has underachieved in the recent years post season losses. It stinks but it's still the fact. They have not been able to maintain the high level of consistency week to week in the post season and it has cost them.

Blame Kraft, BB, and  or possibly their own continual high success and drafting low as possible factors in the current teams construction perhaps, but the team is built with a heavier burden being placed on the offense.

The offense has failed to consistently carry that burden through the playoffs.

The Patriots are not alone. I would say the Packers, as just one example, are currenty similarly constructed with more burden placed on their offense then the defense. However, at least the packers offense has scored more than 17 points in their recent post season losses.

No matter how you slice or spin it, 3 of the NFL's all time greatest point scoring offenses scoring 14, 17, & 13 points in the last two superbowls and most recent post season loss just is NOT good enough and IS underachieving.

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McCourty played well at CB this year.  He was moved to S because of injuries and ineffectiveness of other players.  People are all hung up over the Baltimore game with the PI, but DMC was playing at a high level as a CB before the switch.  Some sites like PFF had him playing some of the best football of his career at that point.  You should pay more attention.

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What? I could easily go pull their scouting reports. BB didn't reach for any of those picks.  Meriweather had maturity issues and was deemed not coachable anymore.  Disappointment, but to say he "lacked talent"?   That's flat out false.  He was a top rated Safety for the 2007 draft. 

Butler was a Deion Sanders favorite coming out of the 2009 draft.  Chung has injury issues. It happens. But, to say these guys "lack talent" is more of a lie than anything I stated.

McCourty lacks talent? You calling BB a liar?  He was raving about McCourty's on field IQ and versatility earlier this year.

You can look around every roster in this league and see 1st rd picks that weren't given a second deal by all teams because they just weren't a great pick.  

You act like it's exlclusive to BB. For every Wheatley or Butler, there's a Samuel, or a James Sanders and a McCourty.

It could be far worse. It could be the Jets with Justin Miller and Kyle Wilson and then 30 million into two CBs with nothing to show for it, not even a divison title.

The point is YOU are calling these guys talented (as in GOOD) and calling those who dispute that as irrational, AFTER they have played in the NFL. (at the time of your post McCourty was a rookie.)

The draft was years(s) before your claim for 3 of the 4 your were praising.

Meriweather cut by end of rookie contract.

Butler cut before rookie contract ended.

Chung to be cut by end of rookie contract.

McCourty failed at CB, reclamation project at S.

These are all guys you have lauded, praised and rated as good picks.

Are you now going to lie more and say you didn't applaud these weak draft picks right along?

Yes, it's irrational that saying those players didn't have talent, acting like BB reached wildly in those drafts.

It's impossible for any GM to predict the person's drive, passion, focus, ability to adapt and grow, etc. The injury bug factor is also impossible to predict. It happens to every GM in the league, not just BB.

Finally, you act like BB is picking at the top or middle of Rd 1 in those drafts.

If you notice these elite CBs are chosen from 1-15 (give or take).   Wake me when he's had an opportunity to pick one of those guys.  He hasn't if his plan was to rebuild this from the lines out, generally speaking.

So, he's chosen mostly in Rd 2.  Finally, if you pick an elite CB, you have to then pay that elite CB money later on. Before the rookie cap last year, you'd have to then pay that elite CB FRevis kind of money which would then throw the formula off.   Mock it all you want, but I don't want their problems or ay team with those problems happening here.

In the end, it's more about the pass rush than anything else.  Even the better DBs in this league look lost when there are 5-7 seconds to throw.

This team won SBs with average CBs minus Law and a one off rarity like Samuel in Rd 4. 

This just in.  If you have to cut a high round draft pick in his rookie contract, he was a bust.  

Not in NE it's not. See, the Jets keep their busts.  Look at Kylie WIlson. If BB had drafted him, he would have been gone long ago.

In NE, these are called disappointments.   Meriweather STARTED here and wasn't awful like Kylie Wilson is.

We're spoiled. We see Rodney Harrison and then Meriweather, so we expect Harrison. I didn't, but many irrationals did.

There's a difference. BB isn't afraid to cut bait to prove a point or simply move on.  The Jets meanwhile, overrated every draft pick because they trade so many away, reach wildly in most drafts and string together 1st rd busts like Gholston, Sanchez and Wilson, 3 drafts in a row.

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You may not understand the rules.  Anyone can be cut.

No team is going to cut a player whose dead money from cutting them exceeds the cap hit for the coming season (see Sanchez, Mark).  Learn the game troll.  LMAO @ U.

Perhaps you meant no team besides the patsies. You should learn how your team opperates before posting such nonsense. 

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Perhaps you meant no team besides the patsies. You should learn how your team opperates before posting such nonsense. 

Yes NE has regularly cut a player and eaten over 17 million in dead money on a single guy in years where they have to cut a bunch of players just to get under the salary cap.  LMAO @ U.

Can you name one team that drafted a corner in the first round who was so awful at CB that his team was bottom 5 in pass D every year he was in the league so they moved him to safety and they were still bottom 5?

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What? I could easily go pull their scouting reports. BB didn't reach for any of those picks.  Meriweather had maturity issues and was deemed not coachable anymore.  Disappointment, but to say he "lacked talent"?   That's flat out false.  He was a top rated Safety for the 2007 draft. 

Butler was a Deion Sanders favorite coming out of the 2009 draft.  Chung has injury issues. It happens. But, to say these guys "lack talent" is more of a lie than anything I stated.

McCourty lacks talent? You calling BB a liar?  He was raving about McCourty's on field IQ and versatility earlier this year.

You can look around every roster in this league and see 1st rd picks that weren't given a second deal by all teams because they just weren't a great pick.  

You act like it's exlclusive to BB. For every Wheatley or Butler, there's a Samuel, or a James Sanders and a McCourty.

It could be far worse. It could be the Jets with Justin Miller and Kyle Wilson and then 30 million into two CBs with nothing to show for it, not even a divison title.

The point is YOU are calling these guys talented (as in GOOD) and calling those who dispute that as irrational, AFTER they have played in the NFL. (at the time of your post McCourty was a rookie.)

The draft was years(s) before your claim for 3 of the 4 your were praising.

Meriweather cut by end of rookie contract.

Butler cut before rookie contract ended.

Chung to be cut by end of rookie contract.

McCourty failed at CB, reclamation project at S.

These are all guys you have lauded, praised and rated as good picks.

Are you now going to lie more and say you didn't applaud these weak draft picks right along?

Yes, it's irrational that saying those players didn't have talent, acting like BB reached wildly in those drafts.

It's impossible for any GM to predict the person's drive, passion, focus, ability to adapt and grow, etc. The injury bug factor is also impossible to predict. It happens to every GM in the league, not just BB.

Finally, you act like BB is picking at the top or middle of Rd 1 in those drafts.

If you notice these elite CBs are chosen from 1-15 (give or take).   Wake me when he's had an opportunity to pick one of those guys.  He hasn't if his plan was to rebuild this from the lines out, generally speaking.

So, he's chosen mostly in Rd 2.  Finally, if you pick an elite CB, you have to then pay that elite CB money later on. Before the rookie cap last year, you'd have to then pay that elite CB FRevis kind of money which would then throw the formula off.   Mock it all you want, but I don't want their problems or ay team with those problems happening here.

In the end, it's more about the pass rush than anything else.  Even the better DBs in this league look lost when there are 5-7 seconds to throw.

This team won SBs with average CBs minus Law and a one off rarity like Samuel in Rd 4. 

This just in.  If you have to cut a high round draft pick in his rookie contract, he was a bust.  

Not in NE it's not. See, the Jets keep their busts.  Look at Kylie WIlson. If BB had drafted him, he would have been gone long ago.

In NE, these are called disappointments.   Meriweather STARTED here and wasn't awful like Kylie Wilson is.

We're spoiled. We see Rodney Harrison and then Meriweather, so we expect Harrison. I didn't, but many irrationals did.

There's a difference. BB isn't afraid to cut bait to prove a point or simply move on.  The Jets meanwhile, overrated every draft pick because they trade so many away, reach wildly in most drafts and string together 1st rd busts like Gholston, Sanchez and Wilson, 3 drafts in a row.

Yes, Wilson is awful, yet the Jets without Revis still had a top pass D.  How could this be?  Still waiting on the answer.  Patises have the best corners/safeties in the NFL with a bottom pass D, Jets have the worst corners and safeties with a top pass D.  Very intersting.

It's not a top 10 D at all. They allowed more points, in fact, bottom 3rd. Their Run D was also ranked 26th, which is awful.

LOL

Hey, maybe Coples can learn to tackle?

I think the biggest question is this: What NFL team has ever used a 1st rd pick on a nickelback after 3 seasons into that player's career?

I cannot name one team that has spent a 1st rd pick on a guy who is only able to be used in an average way in a nickel package. LMAO

Kyle Arrington in nickel (UDFA)>Kyle Wilson in nickel (1st rd pick).

Your D in no way was a "top pass D".  Your LBs and Safeties were HORRENDOUS in coverage all year.   Awful red zone D, too.

Oh, that's so sad.  You have no idea how contracts work.  It's kind of cute, but mostly really pathetic. Did you really think Jason Smith, Bart Scott or Calvin Pace were ever going to see that money?  

He also is quick to reference regular season "QBR" with Brady's supposed "inept" supporting cast.

But, when the playoffs roll around, apparently, these same players are now "inept". 

He's also the same guy who once had the correct premise that Brady was BETTER than Gomer head to head and career because Brady didn't melt down like your Gomer did, especially outdoors in the postseason.

Only Brady can change this.

Wow. I had no idea it was seriously that high.  An outright embarrassment that will sink them for years. They're so far behind that 8 ball right now, it's not even funny.

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I think the offense scoring less than 40% of its current year's average demonstrates the problem significantly more effectively than your failed efforts to discredit my points.  21% more points is only 3.7 pts.  The pats averaged 35 pts and only put up 13 pts.  I don't recall the pats having much trouble executing the prior week without Gronkowski.

I suspect even a troll like you understands what an average is. The offense averaged 27 ppg for the playoffs despite the Gronk absence. That's 22% under their season average. The defense allowed 28 ppg in the playoffs. That's 35% morepoints than their season average.

Troll bludgeoned again.

Averages aside. The Patriots Defense gave up 28 or more points 5 times prior to the Ravens loss. The offense scored 13 or fewer ZERO times prior.

The offense has underachieved in the recent years post season losses. It stinks but it's still the fact. They have not been able to maintain the high level of consistency week to week in the post season and it has cost them.

Blame Kraft, BB, and  or possibly their own continual high success and drafting low as possible factors in the current teams construction perhaps, but the team is built with a heavier burden being placed on the offense.

The offense has failed to consistently carry that burden through the playoffs.

The Patriots are not alone. I would say the Packers, as just one example, are currenty similarly constructed with more burden placed on their offense then the defense. However, at least the packers offense has scored more than 17 points in their recent post season losses.

No matter how you slice or spin it, 3 of the NFL's all time greatest point scoring offenses scoring 14, 17, & 13 points in the last two superbowls and most recent post season loss just is NOT good enough and IS underachieving.

In response to LessPhatRex's comment:

Oh, that's so sad.  You have no idea how contracts work.  It's kind of cute, but mostly really pathetic. Did you really think Jason Smith, Bart Scott or Calvin Pace were ever going to see that money?  

LMAO @ U.  Learn the game toolbag.  The dead money from cutting Sanchez this season is over 17 million.

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What? I could easily go pull their scouting reports. BB didn't reach for any of those picks.  Meriweather had maturity issues and was deemed not coachable anymore.  Disappointment, but to say he "lacked talent"?   That's flat out false.  He was a top rated Safety for the 2007 draft. 

Butler was a Deion Sanders favorite coming out of the 2009 draft.  Chung has injury issues. It happens. But, to say these guys "lack talent" is more of a lie than anything I stated.

McCourty lacks talent? You calling BB a liar?  He was raving about McCourty's on field IQ and versatility earlier this year.

You can look around every roster in this league and see 1st rd picks that weren't given a second deal by all teams because they just weren't a great pick.  

You act like it's exlclusive to BB. For every Wheatley or Butler, there's a Samuel, or a James Sanders and a McCourty.

It could be far worse. It could be the Jets with Justin Miller and Kyle Wilson and then 30 million into two CBs with nothing to show for it, not even a divison title.

The point is YOU are calling these guys talented (as in GOOD) and calling those who dispute that as irrational, AFTER they have played in the NFL. (at the time of your post McCourty was a rookie.)

The draft was years(s) before your claim for 3 of the 4 your were praising.

Meriweather cut by end of rookie contract.

Butler cut before rookie contract ended.

Chung to be cut by end of rookie contract.

McCourty failed at CB, reclamation project at S.

These are all guys you have lauded, praised and rated as good picks.

Are you now going to lie more and say you didn't applaud these weak draft picks right along?

Yes, it's irrational that saying those players didn't have talent, acting like BB reached wildly in those drafts.

It's impossible for any GM to predict the person's drive, passion, focus, ability to adapt and grow, etc. The injury bug factor is also impossible to predict. It happens to every GM in the league, not just BB.

Finally, you act like BB is picking at the top or middle of Rd 1 in those drafts.

If you notice these elite CBs are chosen from 1-15 (give or take).   Wake me when he's had an opportunity to pick one of those guys.  He hasn't if his plan was to rebuild this from the lines out, generally speaking.

So, he's chosen mostly in Rd 2.  Finally, if you pick an elite CB, you have to then pay that elite CB money later on. Before the rookie cap last year, you'd have to then pay that elite CB FRevis kind of money which would then throw the formula off.   Mock it all you want, but I don't want their problems or ay team with those problems happening here.

In the end, it's more about the pass rush than anything else.  Even the better DBs in this league look lost when there are 5-7 seconds to throw.

This team won SBs with average CBs minus Law and a one off rarity like Samuel in Rd 4. 

This just in.  If you have to cut a high round draft pick in his rookie contract, he was a bust.  

Not in NE it's not. See, the Jets keep their busts.  Look at Kylie WIlson. If BB had drafted him, he would have been gone long ago.

In NE, these are called disappointments.   Meriweather STARTED here and wasn't awful like Kylie Wilson is.

We're spoiled. We see Rodney Harrison and then Meriweather, so we expect Harrison. I didn't, but many irrationals did.

There's a difference. BB isn't afraid to cut bait to prove a point or simply move on.  The Jets meanwhile, overrated every draft pick because they trade so many away, reach wildly in most drafts and string together 1st rd busts like Gholston, Sanchez and Wilson, 3 drafts in a row.

Yes, Wilson is awful, yet the Jets without Revis still had a top pass D.  How could this be?  Still waiting on the answer.  Patises have the best corners/safeties in the NFL with a bottom pass D, Jets have the worst corners and safeties with a top pass D.  Very intersting.

It's not a top 10 D at all. They allowed more points, in fact, bottom 3rd. Their Run D was also ranked 26th, which is awful.

LOL

Hey, maybe Coples can learn to tackle?

I think the biggest question is this: What NFL team has ever used a 1st rd pick on a nickelback after 3 seasons into that player's career?

I cannot name one team that has spent a 1st rd pick on a guy who is only able to be used in an average way in a nickel package. LMAO

Kyle Arrington in nickel (UDFA)>Kyle Wilson in nickel (1st rd pick).

Your D in no way was a "top pass D".  Your LBs and Safeties were HORRENDOUS in coverage all year.   Awful red zone D, too.

How did this "awful red zone" pass D manage to give up fewer passing TDs than the patsies fantastic red zone pass D?  I just can't quite figure that out.

NE ran more plays on offense than any other team in the NFL, hence giving more plays for the opponent.

Not hard to figure out.  Also, what was the TOTAL amount of red zone TDs your pitiful D allowed?

lol

Again, GB and NE, are almost mirror images of one another in terms of talent on offense and what happens when you score a lot of points from the offensive side of the ball. Quick scores  or more drives, in turn, also give the other team more drives/opps. Not surprising they finish similarly the last 2-3 years, statistically, on the defensive side.

People with brains understand these correlations.

You'll never see a SB in your lifetime either.  That fact makes us all here very, very happy. Heck, even Colts fans in Indy saw one.

But, you keep looking at those stat sheets just like when Rex Ryan looked down at Sanchez's QB rating on Thanksgiving night talking about his QBR at 100. LMAO

And what? you have some kind of point? Dead money is dead money.  Rusty claims that BB factors in 20 mil of dead money a year.  Why would it matter where it came from?  Perhaps the Jets realize that any dead money on a QB with more playoff wins than Brady since he's been in league is not a good move.  Are you suggesting that because the Chiefs only owe Cassel 10 mil this year, they should cut him becasue he was the bottom ranked QB in the NFL?