The Steelers/Colts Injury Excuses

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    The Steelers/Colts Injury Excuses

    Much was made the last 2 weeks about the Patriots winning games against "beaten up" teams. Let's put that myth to bed, shall we? Courtesy of nfl.com, a look at the Injured Reserve list and injury reports tells a different story.

    INJURED RESERVE

    The Steelers have 5 players on IR; the Pats 10; the Colts 12. But look at the quality of those players:

    Steelers: 5

    74 Colon, Willie T RES 6'3" 315 4/9/1983 5 Hofstra

    10 Dixon, Dennis QB RES 6'3" 209 1/11/1985 3 Oregon

    37 Harris, Tuff DB RES 6'0" 198 1/23/1983 3 Montana

    78 Starks, Max T RES 6'8" 345 1/10/1982 7 Florida

    80 Sweed, Limas WR RES 6'4" 220 12/25/1984 3 Texas

     

    Patriots: 10

    36 Barrett, Josh DB RES 6'2" 225 11/22/1984 3 Arizona State

    23 Bodden, Leigh CB RES 6'1" 193 9/24/1981 8 Duquesne

    33 Faulk, Kevin RB RES 5'8" 202 6/5/1976 12 LSU

    3 Gostkowski, Stephen K RES 6'1" 210 1/28/1984 5 Memphis

    77 Kaczur, Nick T RES 6'4" 315 7/28/1979 6 Toledo

    26 Lockett, Bret DB RES 6'1" 220 10/7/1986 2 UCLA

    30 McGowan, Brandon FS RES 5'11" 207 9/26/1983 6 Maine

    90 Richard, Darryl DT RES 6'4" 295 6/17/1986 1 Georgia Tech

    94 Warren, Ty DE RES 6'5" 300 2/6/1981 8 Texas A&M

    66 Weston, Kade DT RES 6'5" 316 11/29/1986 0 Georgia

     

    Colts: 12

    Bullitt, Melvin SS RES 6'1" 201 11/13/1984 4 Texas A&M

    Caldwell, David DB RES 5'11" 212 5/19/1987 0 William & Mary

    44 Clark, Dallas TE RES 6'3" 252 6/12/1979 8 Iowa

    11 Gonzalez, Anthony WR RES 6'0" 193 9/18/1984 4 Ohio State

    Hemby, Jordan DB RES 5'11" 190 7/21/1987 0 North Carolina

    37 King, Brandon DB RES 5'10" 194 1/28/1987 0 Purdue

    Moore, Devin RB RES 5'10" 191 11/6/1985 1 Wyoming

    Santi, Tom TE RES 6'3" 250 11/22/1985 3 Virginia

    Silva, Jamie FS RES 5'11" 204 12/14/1984 3 Boston College

    Swenson, Brett K RES 5'8" 173 2/10/1988 0 Michigan State

    Thomas, Kevin DB RES 6'0" 192 9/20/1986 0 USC

    49 Vaughn, Chip DB RES 6'2" 221 10/26/1985 2 Wake Forest



    INJURY LIST

    The Steelers have 4 players on the injury list; the Pats 8; and the Colts 10. This is the current list...it may have changed from prior weeks; still, none of these guys is out for the season.

    Steelers: 4

    Antonio Brown WR Knee Did Not Participate In Practice

    Troy Polamalu S Ankle Did Not Participate In Practice

    Aaron Smith DE Triceps Did Not Participate In Practice

    Matt Spaeth TE Concussion Did Not Participate In Practice

     

    Patriots: 8

    Tom Brady QB right Shoulder Did Not Participate In Practice Questionable

    Steve Neal G Shoulder Did Not Participate In Practice Questionable

    Jonathan Wilhite CB Hip Did Not Participate In Practice Questionable

    Mike Wright DE Neck Did Not Participate In Practice Questionable

    Mark LeVoir T Elbow Limited Participation in Practice Questionable

    Jarrad Page S Calf Limited Participation in Practice Questionable

    Myron Pryor DT Back Limited Participation in Practice Questionable

    Fred Taylor RB Toe Limited Participation in Practice Questionable

     

    Colts: 10

    Gary Brackett LB Toe Did Not Participate In Practice

    Austin Collie WR Concussion Did Not Participate In Practice

    Brody Eldridge TE Rib Did Not Participate In Practice

    Dwight Freeney DE Rested Did Not Participate In Practice

    Javarris James RB Knee Did Not Participate In Practice

    Bob Sanders CB Biceps Did Not Participate In Practice

    Clint Session LB Elbow Did Not Participate In Practice

    Justin Tryon CB Foot Did Not Participate In Practice

    Joseph Addai RB Neck Limited Participation in Practice

    Mike Hart RB Ankle Limited Participation in Practice




    The injury excuse doesn't hold water.
     
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    Re: The Steelers/Colts Injury Excuses

    It is especially ironic that the pundits kept saying that the Colts had figured out the Patriots as the Colts had won something like 5 out of the last 6.  The reality is the Colts have not beaten a healthy Patriots team during the Brady era.

    The other reality is that the Colts did win those games.  Injuries happen all the time, and you got to play with what you got.

    So, too bad for us the last few seasons, but this year we beat the Steelers and the Colts.  This gives us the best record in the NFL.

     
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    In Response to The Steelers/Colts Injury Excuses:
    [QUOTE]Much was made the last 2 weeks about the Patriots winning games against "beaten up" teams. Let's put that myth to bed, shall we? Courtesy of nfl.com, a look at the Injured Reserve list and injury reports tells a different story. INJURED RESERVE The Steelers have 5 players on IR; the Pats 10; the Colts 12. But look at the quality of those players: Steelers: 5 74 Colon, Willie T RES 6'3" 315 4/9/1983 5 Hofstra 10 Dixon, Dennis QB RES 6'3" 209 1/11/1985 3 Oregon 37 Harris, Tuff DB RES 6'0" 198 1/23/1983 3 Montana 78 Starks, Max T RES 6'8" 345 1/10/1982 7 Florida 80 Sweed, Limas WR RES 6'4" 220 12/25/1984 3 Texas   Patriots: 10 36 Barrett, Josh DB RES 6'2" 225 11/22/1984 3 Arizona State 23 Bodden, Leigh CB RES 6'1" 193 9/24/1981 8 Duquesne 33 Faulk, Kevin RB RES 5'8" 202 6/5/1976 12 LSU 3 Gostkowski, Stephen K RES 6'1" 210 1/28/1984 5 Memphis 77 Kaczur, Nick T RES 6'4" 315 7/28/1979 6 Toledo 26 Lockett, Bret DB RES 6'1" 220 10/7/1986 2 UCLA 30 McGowan, Brandon FS RES 5'11" 207 9/26/1983 6 Maine 90 Richard, Darryl DT RES 6'4" 295 6/17/1986 1 Georgia Tech 94 Warren, Ty DE RES 6'5" 300 2/6/1981 8 Texas A&M 66 Weston, Kade DT RES 6'5" 316 11/29/1986 0 Georgia   Colts: 12 Bullitt, Melvin SS RES 6'1" 201 11/13/1984 4 Texas A&M Caldwell, David DB RES 5'11" 212 5/19/1987 0 William & Mary 44 Clark, Dallas TE RES 6'3" 252 6/12/1979 8 Iowa 11 Gonzalez, Anthony WR RES 6'0" 193 9/18/1984 4 Ohio State Hemby, Jordan DB RES 5'11" 190 7/21/1987 0 North Carolina 37 King, Brandon DB RES 5'10" 194 1/28/1987 0 Purdue Moore, Devin RB RES 5'10" 191 11/6/1985 1 Wyoming Santi, Tom TE RES 6'3" 250 11/22/1985 3 Virginia Silva, Jamie FS RES 5'11" 204 12/14/1984 3 Boston College Swenson, Brett K RES 5'8" 173 2/10/1988 0 Michigan State Thomas, Kevin DB RES 6'0" 192 9/20/1986 0 USC 49 Vaughn, Chip DB RES 6'2" 221 10/26/1985 2 Wake Forest INJURY LIST The Steelers have 4 players on the injury list; the Pats 8; and the Colts 10. This is the current list...it may have changed from prior weeks; still, none of these guys is out for the season. Steelers: 4 Antonio Brown WR Knee Did Not Participate In Practice Troy Polamalu S Ankle Did Not Participate In Practice Aaron Smith DE Triceps Did Not Participate In Practice Matt Spaeth TE Concussion Did Not Participate In Practice   Patriots: 8 Tom Brady QB right Shoulder Did Not Participate In Practice Questionable Steve Neal G Shoulder Did Not Participate In Practice Questionable Jonathan Wilhite CB Hip Did Not Participate In Practice Questionable Mike Wright DE Neck Did Not Participate In Practice Questionable Mark LeVoir T Elbow Limited Participation in Practice Questionable Jarrad Page S Calf Limited Participation in Practice Questionable Myron Pryor DT Back Limited Participation in Practice Questionable Fred Taylor RB Toe Limited Participation in Practice Questionable   Colts: 10 Gary Brackett LB Toe Did Not Participate In Practice Austin Collie WR Concussion Did Not Participate In Practice Brody Eldridge TE Rib Did Not Participate In Practice Dwight Freeney DE Rested Did Not Participate In Practice Javarris James RB Knee Did Not Participate In Practice Bob Sanders CB Biceps Did Not Participate In Practice Clint Session LB Elbow Did Not Participate In Practice Justin Tryon CB Foot Did Not Participate In Practice Joseph Addai RB Neck Limited Participation in Practice Mike Hart RB Ankle Limited Participation in Practice The injury excuse doesn't hold water.
    Posted by NY-PATS-FAN4[/QUOTE]

         Obviously, you don't know what you're talking about. Everybody knows that the 2010 Indianapolis Colts have had more injuries to more key players that any other team in NFL history!! Just ask Indylove, a/k/a Underdog(gggg), a/k/a UD6!

         LOL!!!!
     
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    Re: The Steelers/Colts Injury Excuses

    Good news. The Pats won.  Let it go.  Right now I hope that the Colts don't win their division and the Pats finish in 2nd (wildcard) to the Jets.  We could end up playing in both Indy and New Jersey.   
     
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    Re: The Steelers/Colts Injury Excuses

    Injuries and sycophant pundits are a part of today's NFL.  Teams deal with the injuries; fans deal with the pundits.

    All I know is that the Pats are 8 - 2 in a year where instead of re-building they are actually re-loading. 

    Go Pats.
     
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    Re: The Steelers/Colts Injury Excuses

    You ungrateful swine! Without Peyton the Colt would cease to exist! HOW DARE YOU NOT WORSHIP THE GROUND ON WHICH HE WALKS ON!!!


    GIMME YOUR ADDRESS! I'M COMING TO COME KICK YOU IN THE NUTS!!!!
     
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    Re: The Steelers/Colts Injury Excuses

    All I know is that the Pats are 8 - 2 in a year where instead of re-building they are actually re-loading. 

    After beating both Pittsburgh and Indy I'd say they are loaded for bear! Which will bode well against Chicago!

    And I'm sure most here would never have put money on this team being 8-2 going into Thanksgiving. But let's not get too giddy! The defense will need to improve quite a bit if they want to survive in January. Back in 06 the Colts D went to being the worst at Christmas to the best in the postseason. And NE has the benefit of BB. On the other hand, they won a SB with Randall Gay and Earthwind Moreland in the secondary. I'd say the guys now have more talent than those guys! I don't want to hear anyone cry about injuries. Especially Colts fans, who would never have seen a Lombardi if it weren't for NE "illness" putting half of the D on the bench! Although what TPat said is true, UD will tell you it's only Patriots fans who cannot use injury as an excuse!
     
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    Re: The Steelers/Colts Injury Excuses

    In Response to Re: The Steelers/Colts Injury Excuses:
    [QUOTE]In Response to The Steelers/Colts Injury Excuses :      Obviously, you don't know what you're talking about. Everybody knows that the 2010 Indianapolis Colts have had more injuries to more key players that any other team in NFL history!! Just ask Indylove, a/k/a Underdog(gggg), a/k/a UD6!      LOL!!!!
    Posted by TexasPat3[/QUOTE]

    I thought I read somewhere that the colts had to put all their players, with the exception of Manning, on IR and were forced to replace them with a busload of HS players from Texas.

    If it keeps up, the NFL is going to allow them to place players from other teams on IR to even the field. Goodell is also contemplating giving Manning his own yellow flag to throw if he notes a penalty during the game or even 'feels' there is a disturbance in the NFL universe.

    Manning to refs: These are not the holds you are looking for. 

     
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    Re: The Steelers/Colts Injury Excuses

    I agree with the original poster about the Colts. I never bought into their injury complaints.

    The issue with the Steelers was not the over all injuries, but with their game with us, they had the injuries concentrated on their starting O-Line (Colon, Starks, and Kemoeatu were out). From what I saw last week, their O-Line seems to be working together better now, gave Ben protection, which allowed him to pick Oakland apart. It will be interesting to watch the rest of the Steelers season, because I am certain we will see them again post season.


     
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    Re: The Steelers/Colts Injury Excuses

    Injuries were not an excuse in the Patriot game. The Patriots put a beating on the Steelers like the Eagles did two years ago. There was nothing wrong with the defense, yet Tom Brady had all day to throw the ball. I've said all along that the Steelers do not match up well with the Patriots. Plus, coming off that loss to Cleveland, you just knew the Patriots were going to play a whole lot better. That was one of the best performances that I have witnessed by the Patriots. They were by far just the better team.
     
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    Re: The Steelers/Colts Injury Excuses

    Hey Steelcurtain75,

    I really appreciate your honest thoughts on this. It is really nice to have a discussion with a fan of an opponent who is not a troll (hint Indy and Jets fans).

    My points on your O-Line problems are not meant to be an excuse, just a statement of fact. The Pats have a high scoring offense, and the only way for the Steelers to beat them is to out score them. That is very hard for any team to do that with most of their starting O-Line out with injuries. Puts you behind the 8 ball right from the get go. I think with a healthy O-Line, the Steelers offensively match up very well with the Pats.

    The biggest problem for you guys is LeBeau's Zone Blitz scheme doesn't match up at all with Brady's quick release abilities. He seems to have no answer for that with his usual schemes. The only way the Steelers are going to beat the Pats in a rematch is LeBeau must come up with a different defense specifically designed to neutralize Brady's strengths.


     
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    Re: The Steelers/Colts Injury Excuses

    Carve Master, you bring up a lot of good points. Watching Tom Brady in the second half of the Detroit game yesterday, he makes it look so effortlessly.  And Brady without a doubt throws the nicest long pass in the game. Two years ago when Brady was out, I thought Coach Belichick did one of his best jobs leading the team to an 11-5 record. The only reason the Steelers were able to defeat the Patriots that year was  because they got to Matt Cassel's. But this is where Brady stands out from the other QB's, he doesn't hold onto the ball too long like Cassel's did. I was telling a friend that since the Steelers had virtually no pass rush against the Patriots a few weeks ago, maybe they should play a 3-8 defense. 3 rushing the QB and 8 Defensive Backs!...lol  You have to give the New England coaching staff some credit for the win over the lions yesterday. Whatever they said or whatever adjustments they made at half-time were pretty good. It was like two different games. But also, Detroit, Cleveland,Buffalo, Oakland, are no longer automatic wins. It's kind of amazing that teams like the Patriots, Steelers, Colts, Ravens, have been able to remain near the top year after year, even though they usually draft so low.  I like this forum because most of the regulars bring up a lot of good points. And most of them aren't 'bandwagon fans'. Are they disappointed when the Pat's lose? Sure, that's only natural. Do they criticize the performance? Sure, this goes on in every city. But the majority of them stick-up for the team also when someone makes a stupid comment like, 'Get rid of Brady', or 'Fire the coach', after a loss such as the Cleveland game. Very impressive performance by the Patriots in the second half against the lions yesterday. Reminded me of the team that won 17 in a row. As for the Super Bowl that year, If they would have played 100 times, the Patriots would have won 99 of those times.
     

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