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The Super Bowl for Dummies.

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    Re: The Super Bowl for Dummies.

    The best thing that ever happened to this board is the Patriots losing two superbowls.  Hours and hours of fodder for regular posters and trolls alike.  As much as the dead horse beating continues, it would have been just as bad if the Pats had won both games since there would be a lot of "look at the scoreboard" guys here saying that we could never, ever criticise the Coach/GM again because of his record. 

    I say screw that, we're just a bunch of guys who like to debate and share opinions.  But why can't some of you just keep things non-personal?  Agree to disagree!  The level of one upsmanship around here is absolutely ridiculous.   

    The irony is that the Patriots could have won both games if not for a handful of plays that were entirely "makeable" on their part.  A catch/INT and history is changed forever.   
     
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    Re: The Super Bowl for Dummies.

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    I am so confused by the conflict between you two. Frankly I don't care about it. My life is the same either way. However have either of you considered that you are both right. Our offense could have done better and our defense could have done better. What you are arguing about is whether or not the defense is 60% to blame or the offense is 60% to blame. There is no doubt about it, we need a deep threat and running game to make defenses worry about more things and not sit on a short-middle passing game. With these are offense is better. There is no doubt we need a few playmakers and more pressure from our defense. Other than Sterling Moore's amazing swat, when has our defense stepped up in a key game to help us win? I remember that when the game was on the line, Rodney, Law, McGinnis, Bruschi or Seymour would make a play and help seal a win. Brown or Branch would make a Catch and Vinitari would kick the game winner. With a running game and deeper threats the offense can easily get back this attitude and ability, they are not far off. With Jones, Bequette and Hightower we should get more pressure and hopefully with better safety play the cornerbacks start making some plays on the ball. They need to stop worrying about giving up the big play and try making a play once in a while. Is this coaching or ability? By why use common sense in this argument? If you are half the "expert" you claim to be then you know that football is a team game and it is difficult to win if you don't have both a play making defense and offense. You need both, one of these alone gets you far and maybe luckily win a Superbowl, but to be dominant in the Playoffs you need both and we need work on both sides of the ball I think we have made strides in the off season to address both sides of the ball and am so stroked and excited to see this team come together and believe that they can be a top performer, better than last year. This gives them a real shot at the superbowl and I want to see them go for it. They have a much better chance of winning the next superbowl then they do about beating the giants in last year's superbowl or the one from a few years ago..... Can we at least agree on that?
    Posted by Pats-bilbo


     am so confused by the conflict between you two. Frankly I don't care about it. My life is the same either way. However have either of you considered that you are both right. Our offense could have done better and our defense could have done better. What you are arguing about is whether or not the defense is 60% to blame or the offense is 60% to blame

    Wow. Reason.  Well said Bilbo.
     
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    Re: The Super Bowl for Dummies.

    In Response to Re: The Super Bowl for Dummies.:
    The best thing that ever happened to this board is the Patriots losing two superbowls.  Hours and hours of fodder for regular posters and trolls alike.  As much as the dead horse beating continues, it would have been just as bad if the Pats had won both games since there would be a lot of "look at the scoreboard" guys here saying that we could never, ever criticise the Coach/GM again because of his record.  I say screw that, we're just a bunch of guys who like to debate and share opinions.  But why can't some of you just keep things non-personal?  Agree to disagree!  The level of one upsmanship around here is absolutely ridiculous.    The irony is that the Patriots could have won both games if not for a handful of plays that were entirely "makeable" on their part.  A catch/INT and history is changed forever.   
    Posted by CablesWyndBairn



    I agree with this notion and i think it is really the only problem on this forum. I would use myself and Prolate as an example of 2 guys who passionately disagree on a subject but can usually keep things civil in our debates. I think we are both Patriot fans 1st and realize we want what is best for the team and have our individual opinions. They might grow old for some of you but I would always remind you that you don't have to participate.

    I also understand Shenn's point of view that these on going debates can take over threads and sometimes ruin threads, for that I apologize. But what I think most fans here do not like is the constant personal attacks from a few guys, we are all pats fans(I think) and we just want to continue our obsession with Patriot football. Leave the other crap out of it.

     
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    Re: The Super Bowl for Dummies.

    In Response to Re: The Super Bowl for Dummies.:
    In Response to Re: The Super Bowl for Dummies. : I agree with this notion and i think it is really the only problem on this forum. I would use myself and Prolate as an example of 2 guys who passionately disagree on a subject but can usually keep things civil in our debates. I think we are both Patriot fans 1st and realize we want what is best for the team and have our individual opinions. They might grow old for some of you but I would always remind you that you don't have to participate. I also understand Shenn's point of view that these on going debates can take over threads and sometimes ruin threads, for that I apologize. But what I think most fans here do not like is the constant personal attacks from a few guys, we are all pats fans(I think) and we just want to continue our obsession with Patriot football. Leave the other crap out of it.
    Posted by TrueChamp


    Yup, I try not to let it get personal either.

    Besides, if it wasn't for the idiots who are wrong all the time...
     
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    Re: The Super Bowl for Dummies.

    The defense held its own in the playoffs, winning the AFC championship, and allowing the offense to score 17 unanswered points in the SB.

    It was the offense that turned the ball over on game cliniching drives in both the AFC championship and SB.

    Plenty of blame to go around, but more than half goes to the offense.
     
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    In Response to Re: The Super Bowl for Dummies. : For the sake of others who read his inane rantings.
    Posted by BabeParilli

    Well since he cant see your posts, if there is ever anything meaningful that you would like me to relay to him, just let me know and I will do so.
     
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    In Response to Re: The Super Bowl for Dummies. : I should thank you.
    Posted by BabeParilli


    You're welcome.
     
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    Re: The Super Bowl for Dummies.

    Lazzie, you can't ignore the truth.
     
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    Re: The Super Bowl for Dummies.

    Shouldn't all of the numbskulls (Lazzie, Rusty, TrueChump, et al) be at some commie, liberal-minded, Obama gathering?
     
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    Re: The Super Bowl for Dummies.

    Something tells me this season is going to be mighty interesting on this forum.  Who knows, maybe a perfect season will bring harmony to this place and we can all just do nothing but praise our beloved team!!
     
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