The Troubled Brandon Marshall??

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    1) My God, that's a long rap sheet.

    2) Glad the Patriots passed on him, even though the talking heads here were salivating at the idea of getting Brandon Marshall.

    3) Don't care for him as a player, never did, never will, but I hope he gets right mentally. Long life to live after football and I'd hate to see him become another casualty.
     
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    I see your point here.  But just for the record, Brandon Marshall has been diagnosed with BPD, he seems to have taken the illness serious, has got help and is working on turning his life around.  Lets hope he makes it and rebuilds all that he has ruined. 
     
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    Even though he has done a lot of stupid things, you have to hope he gets help for his borderline personality and many other problems.....
     
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    I miss the good old days when people were just "crazy." and everything didn't have to be a fancy-schmancy "disorder."

    On the other hand, I think it's nice that some people can afford to have "disorders," while other people simply to go to prison for acting like this.



     
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    I miss the good old days when people were just "crazy." and everything didn't have to be a fancy-schmancy "disorder." On the other hand, I think it's nice that some people can afford to have "disorders," while other people simply to go to prison for acting like this.
    Posted by p-mike


    Yeah, I hear what you're saying. But in the good ol' days, Alzheimer's was crazy, too. If you know someone with it (my mom has a severe case), you know that mental disorders are every bit as real as physical ones.

    We all respect damage to an ACL or achilles tendon, but damage to the brain is far worse and deserves equal respect.
     
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    Marshall is a criminal, Cutler is a headcase
     
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    In Response to Re: The Mess That is Brandon Marshall : Seriously you didn't know that????  The last paragraph of YOUR OWN POST mentions it.  So basically you just wanted to rip on the guy and didn't even read the article you copied?  Nice....
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    Welcome to the world of Texas Pat.  I believe he and Rusty are brothers.
     
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    In Response to Re: The Mess That is Brandon Marshall :      Great post, Mike. When one of the other posters above mentioned that Marshal had "BPD", I assumed that he meant bipolar disorder. I had no idea he was referring to "borderline personality disorder", which is an alleged mental disorder that I've never heard of before.        The symptoms of this alleged disorder are "difficulties with relationships and self image and controlling moods and emotions"...I kid you not.    Sorry...but practically all criminals have such problems, to varying degrees. But, the criminals aren't NFL stars who earn millions, and can afford to be "treated" at a high dollar clinic. It does make one wonder whether this "treatment" is just a sham being used by "team Marshall" in order to excuse his bad conduct, gain sympathy, and mitigate NFL disciplinary action. 
    Posted by TexasPat3


    Well, you may think it's a great post, but mental illnesses are real, and, contrary to popular opinion (i.e., non-fact), they are not a "rich man's disease." My cousin is a retired social worker who handled cases in South Side Chicago for more than 25 years. As far as your comment on "practically all criminals have such problems," these illnesses turn up in boys as young as 8 years old, and are highly prevalent among those who are sexually molested. The overwhelming majority of these kids don't make it to the NFL, so you never hear of them. Some of them do indeed go on to criminal behavior, and some end up serving their country; I encountered many in the army. Most live quiet, desperate, anonymous and miserable lives.

    It's unfortunate that mental illness still carries such a stigma in 2011. Most conditions are treatable, but many who suffer are afraid to confront their conditions for fear of being labeled "crazy" by the ignorant.
     
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    Sorry...I don't buy this "disorder" crap for one second. I think this clown has a drug & alcohol problem mixed with serious anger issues. The "disorder" was probably some lawyer loophole that bought his way out of prison.

    I find it hard to feel sorry for someone who had the world by the balls, all the $$ he ever wanted...and to go out and act like a criminal. He's a complete fool, and deserves what he gets...or what he loses. Fri&&en jerk!!
     
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    ^^ now that is a great post.
     
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    dangit tanbass!  (props intended for NY PATS FAN)
     
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    Sorry...I don't buy this "disorder" crap for one second. I think this clown has a drug & alcohol problem mixed with serious anger issues. The "disorder" was probably some lawyer loophole that bought his way out of prison. I find it hard to feel sorry for someone who had the world by the balls, all the $$ he ever wanted...and to go out and act like a criminal. He's a complete fool, and deserves what he gets...or what he loses. Fri&&en jerk!!
    Posted by tanbass


    He was diagnosed by McLean Hospital, but you don't buy it for a second...says more about you than him.

    Got a little news for you...the brain is a physical structure, just like bones, muscles, tendons and everything else. When it suffers a trauma or a deficiency or imbalance of blood or hormones, it reacts negatively, just as other parts of the body react negatively to stress impacts. But unlike the knee or the ankle or the elbow, the brain is responsible for decision making, so when it suffers a trauma, the results can be far more volatile.

    Seriously, it's not that hard to understand, if you want to. I pray you never have to deal with someone who has Alzheimer's or Asperger's or any other syndrome that wasn't "real" until a few years ago, when science began studying and caught up to what was happening inside the head. But, if and when you do, you'll have a different perspective.

    Within the last year, I have had to commit my mother to a home; the hardest decision I have ever had to make. To see this dear, sweet, loving woman descend into a cursing, knife-throwing, glass-breaking shrew was eye-opening and heartbreaking. But when someone you hold dear to you goes through an ordeal like that, you seek to learn all you can; and it is only then that you will start to learn the truth about mental illness.
     
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    Posted by TexasPat3


    RESPONSE: Nobody here is saying that mental illnesses are not real. But, there are some who allege such illnesses for whenever it suits them.

    But shouldn't we give the benefit of the doubt to those who are diagnosed and confirmed by the top pyschiatric hospitals in the country?
     
    RESPONSE: How does that negate my statement that practically all criminals have such problems? I didn't say that only criminals have such problems.

    I didn't negate your statement at all.
     
    No offense, NY-Pats. I understand your sensitivity. I too know of such people who have had to deal with the sad, unfortunate symptoms of mental illness. But, those whom I've known have been bipolar, or schizophrenic. But, "borderline personality disorder"?? Sorry...but I have my doubts. 

    And as I said earlier, we have only just begun to study mental illness. Surgery on animals goes as far back as Galen in ancient Rome; surgery on humans has been happening for more than 1,000 years. But the word Alzheimer's didn't even come into existence until 100 years ago, because medical science did not study the brain.



    RESPONSE: I find that most who aren't treated don't know themselves to have a problem...until their symptoms start to manifest themselves, or they start hurting or attempting to hurt themselves, or others. Those who wish to go to a therapist sometimes fear being labeled as "crazy". The new Obamacare makes it less likely that these people will seek help...because the government will have access to their medical records, and thus be able to invade the privacy of such individuals.

         Where do we draw the line on taking responsibility for ones own actions? Should we always blame it on some type of personality disorder? Would you concede that at least some people use mental illness or alleged disorders to excuse themselves from the consequences of their bad acts?

    Of course, people must responsible for their acts. If Brandon Marshall commits a murder, he should go to prison, period.

    But here's the thing: When an athlete who runs a 4.4 40-yard dash tears an  achilles tendon, we immediately understand that he's not going to run 4.4 again any time soon; further, we understand that he must then seek medical help for his injury.

    But what if popping an achilles resulted in an athlete not eating for several days; or attempting suicide; or not being able to distinguish between ordinary actions like cutting the hedges from extraordinary actions like cutting his wife's face? Would we have the same medical understanding then?

    It's easy to dispatch with terms like "borderline personality disorder" because they are so foreign to we laymen without chemical imbalances, just as torn anterior cruciate ligaments are foreign to most of us who are not athletes. But brain doctors are waay behind sports medicine doctors in the comprehensiveness of their knowledge, and there will be far more discoveries of brain illnesses over the next century than of all other illnesses in the history of medicine.

    We should not dismiss things we do not understand, because when we do, we stigmatize those who really need help before they are alienated into violent sociopathy.

     
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    He's still a greatt WR...lookslike he had a two year gap until the girlfriend jigged him...

    60maxpowero..a really cool Patriots site...check it out 
     
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    Borderline personality disorder is a fancy way of saying A**hole
     
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    1) My God, that's a long rap sheet. 2) Glad the Patriots passed on him, even though the talking heads here were salivating at the idea of getting Brandon Marshall. 3) Don't care for him as a player, never did, never will, but I hope he gets right mentally. Long life to live after football and I'd hate to see him become another casualty.
    Posted by apdynasty23


    don't care for him as a player? My god man....do you remember the "josh mcdaniels" game in denver a few years ago? bc Marshall sharted all over our secondary for 2tds & 150yds maybe 10 grabs...


    when he is right & has a qb he's THE MOST COMPLETE WR in the NFL...watch him block & crack back on LB's. He's a tough kid. a nutjob, but he is tough man!

     
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