The Vernon Gholston thread

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    HEY! you spelled my name right this time good for you, and don't you know betting is illegal....I should rat you out like NYC punk....that's redundant isn't it.
     
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    get help or get educated.  I hope you can do better than you are doing here.
     
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    Do you have anyone still on your team from the 2008 draft besides mayo?  He aint all world either...  Usually takes 3-4 years to evaluate a draft so I went ahead and posted your draft from 3-5 years ago.  You can rate your draft master yourself. 2008 1.10 LB   Jerod Mayo  Tennessee  from NO 2.31 DB   Terrence Wheatley  Colorado    3.15 LB   Shawn Crable  Michigan  from NO 3.31 QB   Kevin O'Connell  San Diego State    4.30 DB   Jonathan Wilhite  Auburn    5.18 WR   Matt Slater  UCLA  from TB 6.31 LB   Bo Ruud  Nebraska      2007 1.24 DB   Brandon Meriweather  Miami  from SEA 4.28 DL   Kareem Brown  Miami    5.34 OL  Clint Oldenburg  Colorado State  compensatory pick 6.06 LB   Justin Rogers  Southern Methodist  from ARI 6.28 DB   Mike Richardson  Notre Dame    6.34 RB   Justise Hairston  Central Connecticut  compensatory pick 6.35 OL  Corey Hilliard  Oklahoma State  compensatory pick 7.01 LB   Oscar Lua  Southern California  from OAK 7.37 OL  Mike Elgin  Iowa  compensatory pick   2006 1.21 RB   Laurence Maroney  Minnesota    2.04 WR   Chad Jackson  Florida  from GB; trade 2006 2.20, 3.11 3.22 TE   David Thomas  Texas    4.09 TE   Garrett Mills  Tulsa  from DET 4.21 K   Stephen Gostkowski  Memphis    5.03 OL  Ryan O'Callaghan  California  from OAK 6.22 DL   Jeremy Mincey  Florida    6.36 OL  Dan Stevenson  Notre Dame  compensatory pick 6.37 DL   Le Kevin Smith  Nebraska  compensatory pick 7.21 DB   Willie Andrews  Baylor   
    Posted by WeDerrWEDAT


    Let's see if we can explain this so a Jets fan can understand. 

    2006 - Patriots have Super Bowl caliber, veteran roster with few open roster spots.   Five of the top six picks are still in the league (I don't think Jackson is on a roster at this moment)  as well as Smith with Maroney, Thomas, Gostkowski and O'Callaghan all contributing for the Pats at some point.  Only "bust" would be Jackson.  Grade - B
    2007 - Again, veteran roster with few, if any, open roster spots.  1st round pick makes team and plays at a near pro-bowl level.  Remainder of picks are late 4th round and later with little chance of making Super Bowl caliber roster.  Oh, and we trade picks for Welker and Moss.  Grade - A
    2008 - Veteran, Super Bowl quality roster -  1st pick DROY, little if any room on bottom of roster for remaining picks though 4 of 6 are still in league in some fashion (I've lost track of O'Connell).  Late 2nd round pick  and third round picks show flashes but were slowed by injuries. The Pats could have made a better 2nd pick (can argue Wheatly was a stretch but he was probably the best CB left on the board) - Grade B

    In summary, while the draft is a crap shoot, from 2006-2008, the Pats made one "bad" pick (Jackson), one questionable pick (Wheatly) and possibly a second questionable pick (O'Connell).  I can't fault the lack of lower round picks making the team as the Pats were loaded during this time.  I'm sure the Jets would like to have the Pats level of success.
     
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    In Response to Re: The Vernon Gholston thread : Looks like you are the stupid one.  I posted 3 fail drafts, not 2.  What draft genius goes 3 straight fail drafts. 
    Posted by WeDerrWEDAT


    I wouldnt call the 2007 draft a failure when you factor in Randy Moss and Wes Welker.
     
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    WeeWee do you remember Joe Namath?  He's the drunk ...I mean face of your franchise and that's the best your pitiful team can claim PPPFTLOL.






     
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    In Response to Re: The Vernon Gholston thread : Clearly you have a lovefest with Mayo.  He's a pretty good player, not in the same class as Harris of course.   If he was, the pastsies D would be better than it is.  You know, somewhere along the lines of how good the Jets D is (currently number 3).  He'd better be pretty good, though because that 2008 pick was followed up with Wheatley, Crable, Oconnell and Wilhite. Ouch. Serious question.. any of those guys still playing football? You love to post draft positions, Harris 47th, Mayo 10th. I guess Mayo should be a lot better than he is.
    Posted by PhatRex



    hey phat rex consider this david harris and bart scott combined have 110 combined tackles this year, jerod may by himself combined tackles 105. let that boggle your pee brain mind .
     
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    I am sooo sorry to forget that the Sancheese was a big 2009 draft pick, the fifth overall selection.  I think his offense is forgetable too.
     
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    And the jeties have done so well they've won.....................one super bowl before you were born.

    Phaty repeat along with WeeWee.

    Wee r sofa king stew ped






     
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    No the Jets trade 4 players for one. Something that a guy with more Super Bowl rings than Rex Ryan or Tananbaum would never do. Having more picks increases the odds of landing a good solid starter. Without more picks we don't have Brady, Koppen or Light. You do understand that our system via the results is far better than yours ?
     
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    From ProFootballFocus.com,

    New York Jets — Four is the magic number for Kyle Wilson. Four defensive stops, four quarterback pressures and four pass breakups.

    The New York Jets parade of first rounders never ends.
     
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    I will post a weekly update on this guy. He was taken higher than Mayo in the draft. Gholston has 5 tackles total this season... 5 tackles?  Mayo has 5 tackles falling down. Sooo glad this guy is a jet. Vernon Gholston | #50 | DE New York Jets  |  Official Team Site   Height: 6-3   Weight: 260   Age: 24 Born: 6/5/1986 Detroit , MI College: Ohio State Experience: 3rd season High School: Cass Tech HS [Detroit, MI] team rosters quick stats (2010) TCKL 5 SCK 0.0 FF 0 INT --  
    Posted by harleyroadking1
    I believe the 07 Draft also brought Welker and Moss. They were not very good though!!! Dooosh
     
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    BBReigns: unemployed troll searcher.  At least thats what he put on his job qualification list. 

    Precious, buddy. And i'm positive you can't see me. too scared.Surprised
     
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    In a fairer comparison rookie DE Brandon Deadrick has 10 tackles and 2 sacks as 7th round pick. Vernon added to his total he is now up to 6 tackles 0 sacks.
     
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    Ahh I'm comparing Gholston a very high first rounder to Deadrick a 7th rounder. I could care less what the 2010 draft brought your team or what Moss did for us. Gholston is a Big Big BUST! and Dreadrick is a good part of the Pats D-line rotation.

    Keep changing the topic WeeWee if makes you feel better....the only team the jets beat with a winning record is the Pats in week 2.
     
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    Added Deion Branch: "I guess thanks to the Jets, they let [Woodhead] go that easy."--Postgame press conference, 11/21/10
     
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    If the Jets system works why haven't they been to the Super Bowl in aeons ?
     
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    In Response to Re: The Vernon Gholston thread : 2010 draft brought us Holmes and Edwards, DOOOOSH. Moss doesnt even play for you anymore, how many titles did he bring you?
    Posted by WeDerrWEDAT

    And both will be free agents after the season and will demand top dollar contracts. There's no way the Jets keep both of them and retain any depth on that team. The Pats at least had Moss for a few good years and still have Welker. How many titles have Holmes and Edwards won for the Jets? Exactly, it's 0. They might win a championship this year and they might not. It seems as if you're already crowning the Jets Superbowl champs before any team has even clinched a playoff birth.

    The Jets are built for this year only and will lose a couple of their key players in the offseason. From what I have seen, they have 18 upcoming free agents and a good portion of them are starters. They already have a ton of money wrapped up in Mangold, Revis, and Sanchez. The Jets already lack depth and Vernon Gholston sucking up money and space on the roster isn't helping.
     
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    The team has its core locked up? The Jets core is three players? What happens if one gets hurt? The Jets have very little depth and wouldn't be able to fill in any of those spots if one of the players were to get hurt. Most of the big name guys on the team are free agents this year, and there are also a decent amount next year (LT). You can't expect them to sign all of these guys. They already lack depth and losing a few of these big name guys is going to kill the team. Sure, they're good this year. I'll give you that, but they aren't built for a dynasty.
     
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