In response to AZPAT's comment:
"What is so funny about you switching allegiance? Obviously the Pats make you miserable with their ineptitude and lack of dominance over the years, (with the exception of 3)
You just confirmed that.
Just answer this question.
Which NFL team has the most wins, most division titles, most conference titles, most SB appearances and most SB wins over the past 11 years?
If the Pat's are a bumbling collection of ineptitude as you suggest, what does that say about the rest of the NFL?
Try appreciating what you have for once and stop ragging on people who do.
Must really suck to go through life like that."
My, oh, my. I see reading for comprehension is another one of those curses you have to bear in life. I never said that the Pats are inept. Inept = JESTS!, Cardinals (unless they play the Pats in NE), Jags, Chiefs, and Raid-uhs. You don't win 12-14 games year in and year out by being "inept". Let's talk about the IMPORTANT games. But first, make your statement here: what is more important to you? Winning 12-14 games/season, or winning the SB?
Perhaps you didn't understand my comment that the Pats play a just about guarandamnteed 10 wins EVERY season. Go check it out, starting with 6 games in division. Then there are two last place teams added every season (one from each conference's division they will play), bringing this total to..... how many now?.... EIGHT. Then, for good measure they will also play the 3rd place team from each of those same conference divisions, which gives us a grand total of.... OK, you can use your thumbs if you like, 10 certifiable, take it to the bank wins. Guess what? The Pats have just about done that year in and year out. Yet, sometimes, we have homies actually come on board and whine about how "tough" their schedule is. AMAZING!!!!! You'd never survice in KC, or Jacksonville, where you'd be hard pressed to identify at least 4 wins per season, and that's with last place schedules!
Sitcking with MATH (sorry, mAth, not mEth), 10 from 13 (splitting the difference between 12 and 14; or, as they say in the hood "the number in between 12 and 14"), that leaves 3 wins and 3 losses from the rest of their games. That's half, or, .500. They lose just as many games to "good" teams as they do to "bad" teams. This bears out since the 2005 SB, as they have yet to win another one, and the playoffs will have GOOD teams. Inept? (Come on, Sparky! You can do better than that lame accusation!) No, cuz they still have to get there. It does, however, speak volumes as to why they play .500 ball against good/playoff contending teams, and how that equates to post 2005 SB entries.
Answers to question #1: Why limit this to the past 11 years? Why not go back to include the 80's or 70's? As I pointed out, and perhaps you MAY have missed it again, they have at least 10 cupcake games to play every season. Double digit regular season wins aren't an issue. The Pats have become the NFL's version of the 1990's Atlanta Braves, and the 60's/early 70's Dallas Cowboys: Can't win the Big One. (Perfect point is the 2008 edition.... went 11-5 and missed the playoffs. What an outrage! Oh, yeah, all 5 losses were to that season's playoff teams. Tut! Tut! Brady wasn't a factor, as he had little to do with winning 11 games, as he didn't play in them, injured early vs the Chiefs.) Coincidence? If you're going to narrow down the spread to a particular time frame, let's ask this: What NFL team has won the most regular season games over the past 5 seasons (excluding eh 2012 season, as it's not completed yet), and LOST two Super Bowls? Are you sure you want to play this game?
Answer to question #2: The NFL, on a whole, has dramatically changed to be more offensive (in oh, so many ways). Jacksonville takes the Texans to OT before losing. Gee, I recall the scores being in the mid-high 30's, NOT 17-14. Again, inept isn't the point of my contentions. They play well against teams they they SHOULD beat, but struggle againt those 6 teams that they SHOULD beat (if you buy into all those glitzy offensive stats), yet go .500 against. NOT the stuff of dominating teams. There is NO aspect of this team that strikes fear into any NFL team, on either side of the ball, and includes Special Teams. Using the excuse that they can only play the games they have scheduled, it proves my point further.... mediocre vs good/playoff bound teams, world beaters against the dregs of the NFL. It's almost like the University of Charlotte's football team taking $1M to go play Michigan in The Big House. No doubt on the outcome (Appalachain State game notwithstanding).
Statement #3: Appreciate what we have? You continue to show your "ineptitude" in reading for comprehension. Do I REALLY need to remind and explain to you how long I've been a Pats' fan? Or how dark and horrible it was living as a fan during the Sullivan and Kiam regimes? Kraft is a complete and total breath of fresh air. He's factually got football people running the show, unlike Jerky Jones in Dallas or Interferring Snyder in Washington. We can see the results. Any long time suffering Pats fans can appreciate a 9-7 season over the 1-15, 2-12 debacles of the past. My contention is that today's team just doesn't have the swagger the early 2000's teams did. ll these big win seasons have translated into are post season disappointments. Seriously tell me that yoiu are just overwhelmed with pride that the Pats "just made" the SB. Now, do it so that we can believe you. In the last two SB seasons, I NEVER read a post from a die hard pats fan that said "At least we mae it there!". We all have a reasonable expectation of victory, yet they can't seem to play that full 60 minutes. Is it the players? Coaches? Game Plan? How about strapping this one on: MENTAL TOUGHNESS? There have been more mental mistakes costing them games than they ever made in the early 2000's. Poor decisions on tackling, when and where to throw the ball, not securing the ball at all times, not securing the ball before trying to advance YAC. And, more disturbing, those stupid, self-induced penalties, like excessive end zone celebrations. Recall the Colts game where they scored late to take the lead, got flagged for 15 yards, and gave the stinkin' Colts the ball around midfield with Manning throwing it? Lost the game on the field and between the ears. They've also done this in regular season too, with the results being pretty much the same, making it unnecessarily harder on themselves. Joe Pa at Penn State said it so well and so eloquently: When you score, act like you've been there before. Yes, THAT is being "a bumbling collection of ineptitude." This says that the Pats have sunk to the level of players only placating their egosd, with no care of at happens to the team. I believe it's called "being selfish", and I'm surprised BB lets it go on. Simple concept: If you don't do it, the refs can't possibly call a penalty. Do it and take the risk.
ROFLMFAO!!! I can't believe that an alleged adult would actually tell someone else to stop raining on his parade!!!! What? Are you going to have your Mommy call my Mommy? Grow up, Sparky! if you don't like what I write or say, good for you. Don't read it, and most definitely, don't engage in conversation with me. Tex Pat, me, or other allegedly "negative" posters (trolls excluded), have never told ANY homies or punk hatters to shut up, because your opinions greatly bother or disturb us, or if you don't agree with us. Cripes! if you knew anything, TexPat and I have had our share of differences over the years! But, guess what? We still converse and share opinions, thoughts, and observations. May I suggest you taking a page from this playbook?
As for attitude going through life, it must be horrible to find out that not everything you've been told is true: you're the best, you're terrific, only you matter in life. Has got to be horrible when teh best you can offer up in a discussion is: well, if you don't like (fill in the blank), move/quit/go somewhere else. Shows complete lack of depth AND creativity.
IM sorry I didnt read your whole post as It cant be that much to say thats different from yesterdays rant,. I couldnt respond to you yesterday for some reason but let me just say this. I Am a fan who calls its straight. Dont lump me in with everyone else. I have been in Texpats shoes where people say Im not a real fan so pump your brakes shorty. The other thing is that you seem so incessant and blaming BB and Brady so its hard to judge if you are a fan or not. I understand both BB and Brady while being great are not perfect. I understand when you create a dynasty, teams will hate you and every game u play is someone elses SB. You tried to school me the other day on why you like the krafts and proceeded to waste your time telling me about Kraft like I just stepped off the boat! You dnt have to know Kraft personally to know he used to sit in the stands,,Duh! so come off that high horse because you havent schooled anyone.
As for our schedule, are we supposed to ask out of the AFC EAST!?!??! and you dont think those games are tough, despite records!??! Division games are always tough. When the AFC east plays the NFC they always fair well so explain that. How Miami is good enough to beat some good NFC teams but they arent worthy opponents for us??? You play the games on ur shedule buddy, nobody has to apologize for beating the Bills! and tell me exactly WHICH divisions are Top NOtch and competitive every year please?? Like I said, I know the team is flawed and I know coaching could have been better in both SB as well as defense and offense so what? Am I supposed to stop watching now??!?! DOnt come back after we win this year please and thank you.
-rational pats fans