Re: These are the facts
posted at 1/7/2013 9:21 AM EST
Has this board come down to this? If you don't agree with a pink hatter's statements, you're a "troll"? If you have a rational bone in your body, and you know which end of the football gets thrown first, yet don't agree with these laughable "greatest" claims, you're a troll?
I've made the claim that the majotiry of today's "fans" can barely remember 10 minutes ago, and this tripe proves it.
Greatest coach? If I need an absolute "must win" game, give me Lombardi, he who THE trophy is named after, patrolling the sideline. Hands down. He was doing it when there were fewer teams, more and bigger rivalries (ie: you played EVERY TEAM every year, no salary cap, no 1000 assistants to assistants to assistant assistants on the sidelines. He did it with a lower active roster too. Plus there's the economics of the game..... no HUGE national TV revenue to spend on players. All this from a speck on the map called Green Bay. Ever been there? Won't find any any glitz or glimmer there. Now, if you're goinfg to make Super Bowl Wins comparisons, he won 2 and NEVER LOST one.
Brady, greatest QB ever? Again, yesterday DID happen. If you want oure stats, he ain't it. If you want post season wins, he's near the top. If you want Super Bowl Wins (you know, that little stat we kept throwing at The Forehead in the "he hasn't won anything!" debate, he still ain't it (recall Montana and Bradshaw?) either. Stats? There's guys names Marino and Favre that far out-stat him. Plus there's this nagging Super Bowl thing going on.... Oh, yeah. They, too, NEVER lost one. Brady, two 4th Qtr gaks in his last two moment of glory, times to shine, which would have cemented him as The Greatest, IF he won. Didn't happen.
Pats offense? For today, with the rules heavily geared towards offensive productivity, I'll give them their due. But, let's temper it a tad seeing how they play 6 games vs The Sisters Of The Poor, Lame, Sick, and Blind. Throw in two other last place teams (one from an AFC division they play, and the other from the NFC conference division they play, plus two 3rd place teams), and it's relatively easy to do. Then, of course, when the offense spoutters it's NEVER Brady's fault. Babe will sweat to that.
Their defense? Sure, like last season, they came on at the end. But, in the end of their last two SB appearences, they gakked it at the end. Either that, or Brady couldn't do it. Go ahead, I'll lwet YOU make that call. There is no doubt that the DB's this year gave us all fits (being gashed continually by QB'd who'd normally have to pay admission to get into Canton). Yet, they did come on. This doesn't mean that all ill have been cured. It's still as scary bunch back there, and it wouldn't surprise me to see the REAL Schaub show up Sunday. I said it before, and I'll repeat it: this defense does NOT strike any fear into any other team.
I'll agree that this is a relatively young team, and I like the potential of what I see. But, as they learn, they need to apply it in key situations. They had the opportunity to REALLY make a statement against the Niners, at home, and played like the Texans did the week before. GOOD teams don't do that. Any REAL Pats fan that doesn't see this is only kidding themselves, and it gets more painful seeing the denials when the results stay the same. Results = Super Bowl wins. Win 12-14 games a season, year in and year out makes you a favorite to win.
Despite what most posters here say, yesterday was nice, but it's over. This new bunch of Pats have no reputation other than "can't win the big one". Anyone else hear "Cowboys" in that statement? It's fine time they go out, strap it up, and get the job done. THEN I'll be convinced that they COULD be the 'greatest".