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    Who is this Rusty character?? Is he sage like in his knowledge of the gretaest game ever played ...like myself?

    I just call them like I see them. And what we all saw last SB Sunday was a horrible pass to Welker. I saw it the World saw it but apparently you(Babe) didn't see the game?




    The world saw Welker drop the Lombardi troll.



    Actually some saw Brady throw it to no receiver from his endzone.  Depends on perspective.


    Some, I recall, thought the Giants intercepted it on an underthrown ball by Brady to an injured Gronkowski. 

    Me?  I just think the Giants were better that day.



    I could not agree more. In fact, the Giants were better in both Super Bowls. The question is why were the Giants better in those games when the Patriots were clearly the superior team of the course of the season?

     
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    What are you even talking about troll? We weren't even discussing that play where 7 blockers couldn't hold 4 rushers for more than 4 seconds. Just zip it. You provide nothing of value here.


    I wholeheartedly disagree. 


    Problem for you is; nobody else disagrees.

     
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    Who is this Rusty character?? Is he sage like in his knowledge of the gretaest game ever played ...like myself?

    I just call them like I see them. And what we all saw last SB Sunday was a horrible pass to Welker. I saw it the World saw it but apparently you(Babe) didn't see the game?




    The world saw Welker drop the Lombardi troll.



    Actually some saw Brady throw it to no receiver from his endzone.  Depends on perspective.


    Some, I recall, thought the Giants intercepted it on an underthrown ball by Brady to an injured Gronkowski. 

    Me?  I just think the Giants were better that day.



    I could not agree more. In fact, the Giants were better in both Super Bowls. The question is why were the Giants better in those games when the Patriots were clearly the superior team of the course of the season?




    The answer is; because the O-line running game and defense were better during the season.

     
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    Who is this Rusty character?? Is he sage like in his knowledge of the gretaest game ever played ...like myself?

    I just call them like I see them. And what we all saw last SB Sunday was a horrible pass to Welker. I saw it the World saw it but apparently you(Babe) didn't see the game?




    The world saw Welker drop the Lombardi troll.



    Actually some saw Brady throw it to no receiver from his endzone.  Depends on perspective.


    Some, I recall, thought the Giants intercepted it on an underthrown ball by Brady to an injured Gronkowski. 

    Me?  I just think the Giants were better that day.



    I could not agree more. In fact, the Giants were better in both Super Bowls. The question is why were the Giants better in those games when the Patriots were clearly the superior team of the course of the season?




    The answer is; because the O-line running game and defense were better during the season.



    So basically, the whole team with exception of Brady played bad in those games?

    Ultimately, Belichick got out coached. Neither were the Patriots prepared for what the Giants brought to the table despite having played them in the regular season each time.

    However, if Brady deserve no blame for those two loses then why should he get any credit for the three Super Bowl wins. Weren't the defenses, running game and offensive line all better in the Super Bowl 36, 38 and 39? At that time, Brady was a cog in a machine. Outside of NE he was never mentioned as possibly being the best QB in the NFL.

     
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    Be prepared to be attacked.   He also has 27 TDs and 17 INTs since 2005 and if you take away his outlier games since then (best and worst), it's 19 TDs and 13 INTs.Obviously, that is not good.We cannot have our best player playing poorly.  This is the biggest stretch of his career. We'll see. I hope he has it figured out and won't try to run that shotgun spread.

    You always lump his mediocre 2005 & 2006 post-season totals in with his 2007-2011 numbers. He was still "game manager" Brady in those days though. Seems more appropriate to include the numbers from those two years in with the 2001-2004 totals. When they are...when the dividing line is 2007, not 2004...his before/after playoff stats are not so dissimilar:

    Pre-2007: 20 TD/9 Int
    Post-2007: 18 TD/11 Int


     
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    In a nutshell...

    A lot of what the Pats TEAM did in the past 2 SBs can be used as reasons for losing those two games.  Rusty wants to blame ONE player to the exclusion of other elements.  Also, as I recall, there was another team on the other sideline that had much to do with the losses.  If the D had held late in both those games, we'd hear Jints rant about all the reasons the Giants lost those two SBs and not necessarily blame only Eli for the losses like we see against TB here.  Teams lose games, live with it and root the Pats on to win this time!!

     
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    Be prepared to be attacked.   He also has 27 TDs and 17 INTs since 2005 and if you take away his outlier games since then (best and worst), it's 19 TDs and 13 INTs.Obviously, that is not good.We cannot have our best player playing poorly.  This is the biggest stretch of his career. We'll see. I hope he has it figured out and won't try to run that shotgun spread.


    You always lump his mediocre 2005 & 2006 post-season totals in with his 2007-2011 numbers. He was still "game manager" Brady in those days though. Seems more appropriate to include the numbers from those two years in with the 2001-2004 totals. When they are...when the dividing line is 2007, not 2004...his before/after playoff stats are not so dissimilar:

    Pre-2007: 20 TD/9 Int
    Post-2007: 18 TD/11 Int



    I tend to throw out the 2005 and 2006 seasons altogether. Both years, the Patriots had obvious flaws as a team and were not considered favorites going into the playoffs (there was a reason they did not have a bye either season).

    I maintain that as Brady has gotten better (statiscally speaking) in the regular season. He has performed worse in the post-season. The team relies on him more and he has not responded in the playoffs. In 2001 the Patriots won a Super Bowl with Brady throwing 1 TD in the post-season (Bledsoe threw one in the Pittsburgh game).

    Since Brady has become the focal point of the team (which I consider starting in 2007), this team has not won a championship. I think Brady is a great QB, I just think they are not going to win putting that much on his shoulders.

    As I have said multiple times, I think this year is different. I think the defense and the running game are capable of winning with Tom Brady putting up the kind of numbers he did in the early 2000s. That is what I am hoping happens in the next three games...

     
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    Who is this Rusty character?? Is he sage like in his knowledge of the gretaest game ever played ...like myself?

    I just call them like I see them. And what we all saw last SB Sunday was a horrible pass to Welker. I saw it the World saw it but apparently you(Babe) didn't see the game?




    The world saw Welker drop the Lombardi troll.



    Actually some saw Brady throw it to no receiver from his endzone.  Depends on perspective.


    Some, I recall, thought the Giants intercepted it on an underthrown ball by Brady to an injured Gronkowski. 

    Me?  I just think the Giants were better that day.



    I could not agree more. In fact, the Giants were better in both Super Bowls. The question is why were the Giants better in those games when the Patriots were clearly the superior team of the course of the season?




    The answer is; because the O-line running game and defense were better during the season.



    So basically, the whole team with exception of Brady played bad in those games?

    Ultimately, Belichick got out coached. Neither were the Patriots prepared for what the Giants brought to the table despite having played them in the regular season each time.

    However, if Brady deserve no blame for those two loses then why should he get any credit for the three Super Bowl wins. Weren't the defenses, running game and offensive line all better in the Super Bowl 36, 38 and 39? At that time, Brady was a cog in a machine. Outside of NE he was never mentioned as possibly being the best QB in the NFL.




    Brady played well in all the SBs considering the circumstances in each. Nobody has said he gets all the credit in the wins.

    If the D managed to get a stop in the last one instead of collaping we would all be praising them as stepping up and playing great clutch football. 

     
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     I think Brady is a great QB, I just think they are not going to win putting that much on his shoulders.

     



    I agree. You aren't likely going to be the best with just an elite QB. You do need a D to get a turnover or two and be able to get off the field. You do need an at least decent running game.

     
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    Who is this Rusty character?? Is he sage like in his knowledge of the gretaest game ever played ...like myself?

    I just call them like I see them. And what we all saw last SB Sunday was a horrible pass to Welker. I saw it the World saw it but apparently you(Babe) didn't see the game?




    The world saw Welker drop the Lombardi troll.



    Actually some saw Brady throw it to no receiver from his endzone.  Depends on perspective.


    Some, I recall, thought the Giants intercepted it on an underthrown ball by Brady to an injured Gronkowski. 

    Me?  I just think the Giants were better that day.



    I could not agree more. In fact, the Giants were better in both Super Bowls. The question is why were the Giants better in those games when the Patriots were clearly the superior team of the course of the season?




    The answer is; because the O-line running game and defense were better during the season.




    Another day another idiotic Babe comment. The Giants had a ton of injuries throughout the regular season. They didn't get healthy until mid December.

     

    You really are stupid.




    Speaking of stupid.....

    I was talking about the Pats, not the Giants dum bass. Just retire Rusty. You constantly make a fool of yourself.

     
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    Hey shenanigan why don't you start a Rusty fake account list.

    Here's another Rusty log In trying to back his moronic argument.  What a freaking disturbed tool.

    Time for everyone to take back the board from this Brady hating Jets troll and all his accounts.

     
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    In a nutshell...

    A lot of what the Pats TEAM did in the past 2 SBs can be used as reasons for losing those two games.  Rusty wants to blame ONE player to the exclusion of other elements.  Also, as I recall, there was another team on the other sideline that had much to do with the losses.  If the D had held late in both those games, we'd hear Jints rant about all the reasons the Giants lost those two SBs and not necessarily blame only Eli for the losses like we see against TB here.  Teams lose games, live with it and root the Pats on to win this time!!




    Well summed up.

     
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    Hey shenanigan why don't you start a Rusty fake account list.

    Here's another Rusty log In trying to back his moronic argument.  What a freaking disturbed tool.

    Time for everyone to take back the board from this Brady hating Jets troll and all his accounts.




    Maybe he is a jets troll. Hell, he doesn't even live anywhere near here. Who knows where he comes from.

    But only a troll or a deeply psychotic Pats' fan would just permeate the board with this Brady hate.

     
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    THIS IS THE BOTTOM LINE.

     

    I post to Rusty....

    "The SB. 9:24 left..... from our own 8 yard line.

    Drive runs from backs - Benny 3 yards, Woody 1 yard, Benny -1 yards, we punt. (1.3 ypc)

    This is where Welker dropped the Lombardi. Brady went 4 for 7 and 34 yards on that drive junior. Where the hell was the running game you want so badly to help him out????????"

     

    And all he can answer is that Benny wasn't warmed up. This is what you get when you corner a RAT folks.

     

     
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    Hey shenanigan why don't you start a Rusty fake account list.

    Here's another Rusty log In trying to back his moronic argument.  What a freaking disturbed tool.

    Time for everyone to take back the board from this Brady hating Jets troll and all his accounts.

    Actuall he claims to live in N Carolina and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he's a closet panther fan who has hated Brady ever since he beat up on his little pantherettes.

    Of course he'll never admit it.  Who would?

    One thing for sure is he's NOT a Pats fan.  Pats fans don't prop up every inadequacy of the team just to bash the QB.  Only trolls do that. IE Leon, UD and all the various other trolls who infest the sight..

    Truthfully, alot of the visitors don't even bash TB.  They bash Rusty!  LOL



     
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    I admit that I hate Brady,BB the pats and mostly the pats fans. I hate Brady for being just the best QB any6 of us has ever seen and doesn't play for the Jets. So i respect him but hate him. he blew the SB for you guy6s last yer so Im sure there are a few Brady haters in the forums also  Babe is NOT one of these haters-He is a Brady Apoligist. 

    BB- I hate him because without Brady he is nothing and he cheated-We all remeber Spygate don't we?An ugly time3 in the pats organization and unfortunate for pats fans everywhere. I know how embarrassed you all must be...as you should be3 for condoning cheating in sports. 

    The pats because they are the pats

    pats fans - I don't think I have enough time and not sure where to begin

     

    I apologize for all the gramatical errors but the ipad keyboard is very small




    It's good to see you attempting to be honest. But you are dead wrong about cheating and Brady causing the loss. Other than that, your points have some truth to them.

     

     
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    Who is this Rusty character?? Is he sage like in his knowledge of the gretaest game ever played ...like myself?

    I just call them like I see them. And what we all saw last SB Sunday was a horrible pass to Welker. I saw it the World saw it but apparently you(Babe) didn't see the game?




    The world saw Welker drop the Lombardi troll.



    Actually some saw Brady throw it to no receiver from his endzone.  Depends on perspective.


    Some, I recall, thought the Giants intercepted it on an underthrown ball by Brady to an injured Gronkowski. 

    Me?  I just think the Giants were better that day.



    I could not agree more. In fact, the Giants were better in both Super Bowls. The question is why were the Giants better in those games when the Patriots were clearly the superior team of the course of the season?



    bad match-up for pats...every team has one



    So any time the Patriots play the Giants we should just expect the Pats to lose?

     
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