This is for the Putz's out there.

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    This is for the Putz's out there.

    The Crappy Alex Smith puts up 13 points on 140 passing yards and beats Seattle.  SF Defense gives up 6 points

    The Great Tom Brady puts up 23 points on 395 passing yards, in a rain storm, and loses to Seattle.  Our Defense gives up 24 points.

     

    We lose because our Defense sucks, you  morons and trolls who believe otherwise.  It's not about points he may of left on the field.  It's about the total # of points our Defense gives up.

     
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    Re: This is for the Putz's out there.

    Do you feel letting a stiff like Wilson put up a 133 PR is indicative of a mickey mouse defense?

     
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    Re: This is for the Putz's out there.

    No doubt it's a lot easier to win when you only give up 6 points. A great defense always keeps a team in the game. The 2000 Ravens won the Super Bowl with Trent Dilfer and a weak offense. That defense was something else though.

     
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    Re: This is for the Putz's out there.

    I'm pretty sure if they got the FG at the half those extra 3 points would have mattered.


    In the end it's the O's job not to leave points on the field. The Pats O left points on the field (1 for 6 in redzone) - O failed at their job

    The D's job is to force the other team to leave points on the field - The D failed, esp in the 4th

    The ST's job is to give as short of a field as possible to the O and as long of a field as possible to the D - The ST's failed

    The coaches jobs are to put the players in the right positions to succeed in thier jobs - The coaches failed

    All in all everyone failed at their job

     
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    Re: This is for the Putz's out there.

    Not a good argument Eng since we left 10 less points on the field then SF and still lost.

     
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    Re: This is for the Putz's out there.

    or Crappy QB's win with good Defenses and Great QB's lose with s*** Defenses.

     
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    Re: This is for the Putz's out there.

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    Not a good argument Eng since we left 10 less points on the field then SF and still lost.

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    we lost by 1 point so any points we left on the field cost the game, SF is a completely sepearte team on a completely seperate game so is not relevant to the game we lost against Sea

     
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    Re: This is for the Putz's out there.

    TCal if all things were equal on every week then your argument makes sense but things aren't equal every week. For proof The Pats beat Buf, Buf beats Ari, Ari beat the Pats so any given week any team could lose. You can't compare two different games with two different teams and get a fair comparison

     

     
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    Re: This is for the Putz's out there.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    The above case study shows 13 points is plenty needed to beat Seattle.

     
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    Re: This is for the Putz's out there.

    I wouldn't go that far Ricky as he has shown that a great D will help you win low scoring games but a great O won't always win you games in your D can't keep it low. Honestly this game fell in between. The D limited it to enough points that the #1 O should have won it for them, even how badly the D played. However, at 23 points the O put enough up that the D should have prevented more then 23 points too. It's in the weird grey zone where both are to blame. If the O didn't leave points on the field by scoring on a reasonable amount of red zone drives I would say they did their job but 1 for 6 doesn't cut it. The D, well they just plan failed. There was no escape to say they didn't.

     
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    Re: This is for the Putz's out there.

    In response to PatsEng's comment:
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    I'm pretty sure if they got the FG at the half those extra 3 points would have mattered.


    In the end it's the O's job not to leave points on the field. The Pats O left points on the field (1 for 6 in redzone) - O failed at their job

    The D's job is to force the other team to leave points on the field - The D failed, esp in the 4th

    The ST's job is to give as short of a field as possible to the O and as long of a field as possible to the D - The ST's failed

    The coaches jobs are to put the players in the right positions to succeed in thier jobs - The coaches failed

    All in all everyone failed at their job

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    The offense did leave points before the half. But we don't know who is at fault there.

    But it is highly unlikely you will win against a good defensive team like Seattle when your defense lets a player the caliber of Wilson walk all over them.

     
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    Re: This is for the Putz's out there.

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    The above case study shows 13 points is plenty needed to beat Seattle.

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    1 point is all it takes to win any game. The amount of points doesn't matter in the end. 1-0 or 55-54 they are both the same in the end all that matters is which side did their jobs and nether did their jobs they both failed

     
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    Re: This is for the Putz's out there.

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    Your QB threw 2 int's and had 2 crucial grounding penalties. Old Tommy boy just aint what he used to be. Don't bother me with his completion % or any other stat. In the last two years Brady in the 4th qtr stinks. They just had Hem Edwards on ESPN.

    He said who would you rather have in the 4th quarter Brady or Eli and it was unanimous that all asked would take Eli.

     

     Everybody gets old ...and Tommy Boy is showing some kinks in the armour. take off the road colored glasses NE -you are what your record says you are and you are 3 and 3.

     

     The man for bardy can now begin

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    Just stow the spin. Name who played better than him or zip it.

     
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    Re: This is for the Putz's out there.

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    I'm pretty sure if they got the FG at the half those extra 3 points would have mattered.


    In the end it's the O's job not to leave points on the field. The Pats O left points on the field (1 for 6 in redzone) - O failed at their job

    The D's job is to force the other team to leave points on the field - The D failed, esp in the 4th

    The ST's job is to give as short of a field as possible to the O and as long of a field as possible to the D - The ST's failed

    The coaches jobs are to put the players in the right positions to succeed in thier jobs - The coaches failed

    All in all everyone failed at their job

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    The offense did leave points before the half. But we don't know who is at fault there.

    But it is highly unlikely you will win against a good defensive team like Seattle when your defense lets a player the caliber of Wilson walk all over them.

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    Ahh we know who's at fault, Brady. No one else could have committed a intentional grounding penalty but him, it's that simple. He made a mistake, he makes mistakes, it happens. But that was 1 red zone that they failed to score what about the others. It wasn't they were 5 for 6 in the red zone and that one play killed them they were 1 for 6 in the red zone, that's just not acceptable

     
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    Re: This is for the Putz's out there.

    In response to PatsEng's comment:
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    In response to tcal2-'s comment:
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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    The above case study shows 13 points is plenty needed to beat Seattle.

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    1 point is all it takes to win any game. The amount of points doesn't matter in the end. 1-0 or 55-54 they are both the same in the end all that matters is which side did their jobs and nether did their jobs they both failed

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    So since the Defense failed last and 18 points more then SF Defense, it their fault.  Only a hardcore troll could blame Brady

     
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    Re: This is for the Putz's out there.

    In response to tcal2-'s comment:
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    In response to PatsEng's comment:
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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    The above case study shows 13 points is plenty needed to beat Seattle.

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    1 point is all it takes to win any game. The amount of points doesn't matter in the end. 1-0 or 55-54 they are both the same in the end all that matters is which side did their jobs and nether did their jobs they both failed

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    So since the Defense failed last and 18 points more then SF Defense, it their fault.  Only a hardcore troll could blame Brady

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    TCal it's not one side or the other failed it's both. Brady left points on the field and did not play up to the #1 O status. We lost by 1 point if they got points in either the intentional grounding penalty or the int in the end zone the Pats would have won. If the D held Sea to a FG on any of their TD drives they would have won. Fact is nether side did their jobs to win and both failed.

     
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    Re: This is for the Putz's out there.

    Good thread, I admire its purity. A survivor... unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality.

    Basically what I'm saying is the defense stinks. Stunk last year, the year before, the year before that and will probably stink next year too if we don't sign some decent free agents. No more Fenene's and Gregory's - spend some money...live a little. No need to be 7 million under the cap for two years in a row in this size media market. 

     
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    Re: This is for the Putz's out there.

    So how many points does Brady have to score a game for it not to be his fault?

    20, 30, 40 50?  Pick a number.  Since our Defense is capable of giving up more points in any game then we score I'd like to know what Brday's Handicap is? 

     
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