Re: This is the most underachieving team I have ever seen!
posted at 12/8/2009 1:35 AM EST
In Response to Re: This is the most underachieving team I have ever seen!
[QUOTE]And who the hell said this a rebuilding year...Is this just another excuse you are making for a discombobulated team......Noone said nothing about rebuilding....I seem to remember our h.o.f. QB coming back healthy...And Bill having all offseason to replace a couple of players and failed and then traded Seymour, but he did draft 4 2nd rounders that are expected and are contributing...You are only rebuilding if you aired out the roster and we didnt...just a few chnges, a few losses that we've been well prepared for with plenty of time to bring along young talent while we milked the last out of our championship defenders...So stop makin excuses...Nobody thought this team was rebuilding when we were feelin ourselves so you cant say it now.......We were top 5 in power rakings but were rebuilding? we aint nothing but the new version of Cowboys of late....over - rated
Posted by patsfan76[/QUOTE]
Does someone need to say it in order for it to be true? No, just look the team. You even say it yourself in your contradicting argument here. You note that they traded Seymour. What did they trade Seymour for? A first round pick to help rebuild our team. Then you mention that he drafted four second round picks that are expected and are contributing. Hmmm... four rookie second round picks in one year? That are playing? That doesn't sound like rebuilding? Never mind all the other picks like Tate, Edelman, Ingram, Pryor, etc. There are A LOT of rookies on this team, especially on defense.
"just a few chnges" - Oh really? Bruschi, Harrison, Seymour, Vrabel, Hobbs, Izzo, Evans, Gaffney, Colvin, Jordan, etc. Those are a lot of big names there, and there were more the Pats lost as well. Notice they were all aging players who were only shells of their former selves? You can't play these guys forever. Look at them now, they aren't doing anything. Who were they replaced by? Mainly rookies and young players with speed and energy that can be with the team for 10+ years and get better, as opposed to 1-2 more years and decline.
"You are only rebuilding if you aired out the roster and we didnt" - Who said that to make it true? This team is rebuilding with great coaching and great talent. You have the Vets teach the new players the ins and outs. You are rebuilding the team when you have a ton of rookies and young talent. That's what the Patriots have. You don't need to cut everyone to rebuild. That would be ineffective, and it's not working out too well for the Bucs. The Pats are being smart about it. They have a lot of rookies, but they also have the veteran leadership to help them grow.
"Nobody thought this team was rebuilding when we were feelin ourselves so you cant say it now" - Do you mean this year or 2007? In 2007 they definitely weren't rebuilding, so that's why people didn't say it. If you mean this year, people have been acknowledging it all year. The difference is that when the team was winning everyone saw nothing but positives out of the many rookies and young players on the team because there was little to criticize. Now that there is something to criticize, it's becoming something that people are blaming for lack of success, putting it more in the spotlight.
Oh, and we are still first in the division right? The playoffs are a whole different monster. The way people are talking you would think the Pats have already been eliminated.
People are forgetting that we have seven rookies making an impact right now and that can't be argued. Chung, Butler, Vollmer, Tate (was before IR), Ingram, Pryor, and Edelman are all making contributions to the team. Think about that for a second. Teams play 11-11 football, and we have seven rookies making a positive impact. Next year we will have a first rounder and three second rounders, nevermind the later picks. Then the year after that it's two first rounders and one second rounder. In three years, that's fourteen young players that could easily be making a huge impact. That's not counting Ron Brace (jury is still out) and all the possible late round talent if you even consider third round as late. How can you argue that this team hasn't set itself up for the future? And how can you be mad about that, even when they are still in playoff contention? If they didn't rebuild, you'd be screaming at them because the team would stink in a few years and you'd be angry they didn't draft rookies. People should be excited for this teams future, because it looks very promising.
Gah! Sorry I wrote so much, just had to get that off my chest...