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    In Response to Re: Thoughts on Pats Season Record: : May I ask what the question marks are on the O Line or D Line?   Also, when was the last time Tom Brady led is team to only 9 wins???
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    2002 @ 9-7 I believe with TB @ the helm and out of the playoffs.
     
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    Still tweaking the numbers, but right now 13.2 victories out of 16.  Just don't ask how the Patriots can win .2 of a victory.

    14-2 is just my feeling.  It may take more results for the numbers to catch up with all the new talent, but the first quarter of the New Orleans game gave the Pats a big stride toward 14.  McCourty:  Check.  Edelman blossomed in his second year: check.  Welker, no, not yet.  Spikes, check.  Cunningham, no, not yet.  Tate, Gronk, Hernandez:  maybe New Orleans was concentrating on them.
     
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    9-7 and miss playoffs...Problem is no Defense.....
     
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    The schedule is a bear and I'm taking a wait-and-see attitude on the defense. They gave up far too many late leads last season and no matter how you slice it, did not fare well against top competition. Realistically, I think, 10-6 would be a good year. The key will be to avoid the killer injury ( 0 for 3 so far in that department) and to handle their division business. Speculation around here usually is that the Pats tend to improve as the season progresses, and that certainly did NOT happen last season. I'm optimistic the youth movement will come together, but I chuckle quietly to myself when I see people throwing 13-3 or 12-4 up there. When was the last time the Pats beat a good team?
    Posted by p-mike


    Come on Mike, that's no fun.  Remember "Sherman ... Atlanta"?  Come on, let's hear it.

    Laughing
     
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    How is it that almost everybody has forgotten that in the games the Patriots lost last year in the second half the offense was just as bad as the defense to close out those games.  Denver, MIA, NYJ, Indy, HOU, all games that the offense was dreadful in the second half.  This D is not that far off and certainly shouldn't shoulder the entire blame for last year's collapses.
     
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    Pats never lose back-to-back and they never lose after a bye. That's with Belichick and Brady at the helm. I highly doubt it'll happen this year.
    Posted by apdynasty23

    Pats never lose home playoff games with Belichick and Brady at the helm either -oh hang on. Pats haven't really addressed their failings from last year(namely pass rush and Oline being able to protect Brady against the better defenses) so unless BB gets these young defensive players to play at an unbelievable level 9-7 is the best I see them going. Injuries are already starting again after pre season week 1 we have 2 players out for the year.

     
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    Addressing one thing at a time:

    ronk1 said, "Disagree. Welker was better last year than he will be early this year.

    You may recall that Welker was having problems early in the year last year with a knee.  In fact, he missed the Jets game the Pats lost.  I believe he will begin stronger this year and when he isn't in there, Edleman, not being a rookie, will be much improved.
     
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    Ronk1 says, "I don't see Tate or Price contributing much past special teams."

    You may be right about Price.  It is quite possible he doesn't get more than 15 receptions.

    On the other hand, I see Tate filling the Gaffney role (2008:
    44 receptions for 468 yards and two touchdowns) very well.  In fact, Tate is far more dangerous after the catch than Gaffney could dream of being.  He is exceptionally quick and can make people miss.

    Gaffney 40 time: 4.5

    Tate 40 time: 4.3

    Parcels drafted an injured Curtis Martin and look how that turned out.
     
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    Ronk1 says, "Watson's production last year was under rated. I see a struggle for Hernandez and Gronk to play to Watsons level."


    Watson stats: 2009 REC 29 YDS 404 AVG 13.9 LNG 36 TD 5


    I liked Watson but for whatever reason, he never performed to his potential. I also thought he was underutilized as was Graham.


    Having watched Hernadez a lot over the past year, I can tell you he is a pass catching machine, and it appears that BB plans on using him extensively. He can actually make people miss and at 250 lbs., he can abuse DBs when they try to tackle him. He is also clutch as he was Tebow's goto guy on third down.


    I saw Gronk flatten a couple of people last Thursday night. I don't expect him to catch a lot of balls even though he showed the ability to get down field in college. I do expect that he will be used very effectively in short yardage situations.


    Crumpler is not the receiver he used to be, but I expect he will see more balls that Baker did. More importantly he is a proven blocker. I expect the running game to improve just because of the tight end blocking.


    Baker had 14 passes for 142 yards and two touchdowns.


    Watson and Baker combined: REC 43 YDS 546 TD 7


    As recently as 2006 Crumpler beat that himself: REC 56 YDS 780 TD 8. Will he do that again? Probably not. The Pats will use him mostly for blocking but he will be a huge upgrade there.


    Overall, I expect to see more tight end production, both receiving and blocking, than last year.


    I was also impressed with how Crumpler came over and talked to Hernandez during last Thursday's game. It is one thing for reporter's to write about him mentoring the young tight ends, it is another to see it in action.

     
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    13-3
     
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    10-6

    Pat's D will have a lot of trouble getting the ball back which will add more pressure upon the offense.  On the upside, special teams will give the boys good field position all season long.  A playoff berth and a defense that is improving as the season goes on will have to be considered a success.  Anything more will be a pleasent surprise.
     
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    NE PATS 2010 schedule & Results (I know a guy who's got this whole  time/space continuum all figured out ) Sept. 12: Cincinnati, 1 pm -   Pats 27  Cinc 24 ( T.O catches 2 tds but drops potential game winner ... Oohh dat Butler better get it figured out ! ) Sept. 19: at Jets, 4:15 p.m.  Pats 16  Jets 10 ( Sanchez ends game with red zone pick ...Yah ...Thaz my Butler !) Sept. 26: Buffalo, 1 p.m.      Pats 31   Buf   6 ( Bills officially eliminated from playoffs) Oct. 4: at Miami, 8:30 p.m.   Mia 21   Pats 20 ( 4th qtr meltdown in hot & humid Miami  ) Oct. 10: BYE         ( Pats trade Mankins ) Oct. 17: Baltimore, 1 p.m. Ravens 24 Pats 20   ( This time ~ Ravens aerial attack is the difference as Brandon "U-Turn " Merriweather is benched in 4th after allowing back-2-back "mental error " tds to Boldin ) Oct. 24: at San Diego, 4:15 p.m   Pats 30 SD 27   OT ( 3 weeks of agony finally over as  Gostkowski hits from 44 yds out  ! ) Oct. 31: Minnesota, 4:15 p.m.     Pats 24 Vikes 20 ( Favre plays but Brady shreds   Vikes pourous Dbs ... Anxious moment to start 2nd half when Jard Allen blindsides Brady ... Briefly out but returns to toss 2 td passes to Moss ) Nov. 7: at Cleveland, 1 p.m.       Pats 38 Browns 13  ( Mangini magic ? ... GM Holgrem has seen enough and axes the rat after 0 - 8 start ) Nov. 14: at Pittsburgh, 8:20 p.m  Pitt 17 Pats 13    (Unfortunatley... 3 - 5 Steelers pick 2nite to get it right ) Nov. 21: Indianapolis, 4:15 p.m.  Pats 30 Colts 28 (Storied rivalry adds another page as Pats come back from 3 scores down to win on last play of game ~ Gostkowski from 44 again !) Nov. 25: at Detroit 12:30            Pats 41 Lions 17 ( Still riding the high from the Colts game ~ Brady throw 5 tds to 5 different receivers ) Dec. 6  : NYJets     8:30            Pats 23 Jets 14 (Shonn Green keeps it close but Sanchez turns the ball over 3 times in cold & windy Fox ) Dec 12  : at Chic    1:00             Pats 30 Bears 23 (Pats clinch AFC East as Cutler throws 3 tds / 4 Ints in windy city ...Lovey Smith fired from 3 -10 Bears ) Dec. 19  : Green Bay  8:20         Packers 31 Pats 27 ( Tough Pats loss in Fantasy Football match-up made in heaven ~ 800 total passing yards ) Dec. 26  : at Buffalo  1:00          Pats 20 Buf 0 ( Game over when Pats kick Fg on opening drive ~ Bills manage just two 1st downs entire game ) Jan 2     : Miami        1:00          Pats 16 Miami 6 (Dolphins knocked out of wild card hunt in Snowy Fox as Pats clinch AFC 2nd seed ! )                       2010 Patriots   ~ 12 - 4     382  / 279                         TEAM LEADERS                   BRADY ~  34 tds  /  11 Ints  / 4016 yds MOSS ~  14 tds / 1288 yds MARONEY ~ 8 tds / 751 yds  Gostkowski ~ 28 fgs / 142 pts                
    Posted by CapFoxboro


    We can always win, we can always lose. I don't see Miami, Ravens, or Packers beating us.....15-1 maybe 14 - 2
     
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    In Response to Re: Thoughts on Pats Season Record: : Seems your were wanting to say Adalius, but said Bryan Thomas. The point your are missing is that you feel the Pats defense consists of the 11 starters. It doesn't. They will rotate 18-22 players over the 16 games on defense. The "experienced returning players" you mention, Banta Cain, Guyton, Wilfork, Wright are not every down players (who is these days?) The front 7 or 8 will consist of 14-16 players: Wilfork Wright Warren (never played this system before) Pryor (2nd year player) Brace (2nd year player) Lewis (never played this system before) Deaderick? (first year player) Spikes (never played this system before) Mackenzie (never played this system before) Cunnigham (first year player) Guyton (2nd year player) Mayo Banta Cain Ninkovich Chung (2nd year player) Butler (2nd year player) Mcourtney (first year player)  That is 17 players who should see significant playing time this year, of which 12 of the players are 1st or 2nd year in the system, or have never played the system. I was very unimpressed with Burgess performance last year. He was HORRIBLE with the exception of 1.5 games (with one of the games against the worst OL in football...the Bills) Look, I hope the team comes together. IMO youth is never served in football other than RB's. The team needed to be turned over. Now it will take its lumps. The schedule is brutal, the division,a laughingstock the past 5 years is now maybe the toughest in football (pardons to the NFC east). I just don't see the these ridiculous claims of 11-14 wins. 6-9 wins IMO is much ore realistic. Btw, I thought Greem was also horrible last year, and Ty Warren was at the end of the line anyways. I just dont see the answers being G Warren, Burgess and some first year players. That being said, I also felt that Adalius played better than he was given credit for on these boards
    Posted by ronk1


    Is ronk short for Chronic?..cause you be smokin some baby.
     
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    19-0
     
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    We had many issues last year from a Patriots perspective, yet made it 10-6. ( Rus 11-5). There were some close games we should have and could have won, no doubt we would have in past years.

    Is our offense worse, better, or the same? Same RB's, age is a joke ( Maroney lead us and he should still be getting better ) Taylor and Morris both injured. So better there. TE, Watson was a joke, better there, both blocking and rec. WR, same group, Edleman more experience, Tate healthy, Moss healthy, better there. O line, Vollmer more exp, Mankins gone, Light healthy....Kaczur who cares..lets say worse.

    Overall we are no doubt looking better.

    Last year we scored the second most points in the AFC behind San Diego, 427 of them, thats right, more than Indy. Offense is important guys and other teams better bring there D.
     
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    On Defense inexperience is a concern, but all these second year guys listed should only get better ( first year guys don't count right? ), the below guys would be expected to get better. They have another year in the system and regular reps ( not that they will all make it or play ):

    Meri, Chung, Butler, Bodden, Burgess, Wright, Brace, McGowan, Woods, Guyton, Mayo, TBC, Ninkovich, Pryor, Wilhite, Wheatley, Alexander, thats all I can think of.

    So forget the rookies, Spikes, McCourty ect...or FA G Warren ect..

    Despite the loss of Green and T Warren I am not shaking ovewr the fact we could fall apart compared to last year.

    Last year we allowed 285 points, third in the AFC behind Balt and the Jets. We can match that.

    So we won 10 ( 11 ) games last year, we will match that at the least and beat that most likely.

    12-4 my guess
     
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    Ronk,

    Was kinda brainstorming and despite you pointing out the youth on our team I can not figure out how we get worse than last year by 3 games. Think you said 7-9. Now we have the same inexperienced team as last year this year and they were good for 10, we are not older right?

    Can you elaborate further?

    I take your point is that A. Thomas, T Warren, Mankins, Kaczur, and Galloway = 3 wins. Maybe we can pull some stats that show how they contributed to those 3 wins last year?

     
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