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I wonder what Martin Luther King Jr would say about how African-Americans carried his message to this day? Seems they use the race card far more often today than "whites" did in the days of MLK.
Don't you dare try to obscure MLK's message to fit into your uninformed and ignorant notion of racism. I'm sick and tired of people dumbing down what that man stood for to substantiate their own ignorance. Nothing about his character demonstrates that he would support the usage of the world thug as it is applied almost exclusively to African-Americans. What's hilarious is despite every cognizable statistic and barometer pointing systematic racism (and realistically it's more about classism than racism in America), you have people like you who ruin the debate. You guys think that dealing with racism is pretending it does not exist. You think that just by not talking about it, it disappeared and that somehow after the Civil Rights Act was passed that racism ended immediately.
Despite, every statistic in the US showing that a white man with a jail record has a better opportunity of getting a job than a black man without one. You've effectively blocked out any substantive discussion on race by calling anyone who mentions it a racist and claiming that they are actually the racist. That is what the "race card" has been turned into--a means to deflect and dodge issues that directly correlate to race. But what's even more arrogant is your audacity to tell people of color, the ones who MLK was advocating for and who his message resonated with the most, what racism is. The audacity of you to cast aside an entire group of people as somehow being paranoid and making excuses when these are the same people who willing to get put in jail, beaten and lynched for the right to walk on the same sidewalk as you.
Suddenly, now they're all crazy and they don't understand code or racism. How about you stop and listen to what they're saying and empathize with them or understand them....You can disagree without being so callous about it. But that would require some degree of integrity and earnestness when it comes to issues of race, and apparently America no longer has that. Race never disappeared, people of color just don't speak about it as much because they are a minority trying to network in a nation where they are largely disenfranchised. Most of my friends are white and come from all backgrounds and have different politics and they're educated enough to know that race is an issue. People like you guys in this thread are why I can never convince any people of color outside of New England that Boston isn't still a bastion of racism like they've all believed and their families have believed since the 60s and 70s. There is a reason Kevin Garnett had to ask Chauncey Billups before coming to the Celtics about whether or not racism was a big deal in Boston. You all need to take courses on critical race theory and have earnest conversations about race. What Richard Sherman said, has been said by black people throughout this decade....it's what most African-Americans think about how "thug" is applied, they were more shocked that an athlete had the guts to say what people of color have been thinking for awhile. This is what happens when you ignore how minority groups feel about issues, when you hear the truth you get all shocked. This isn't just about you, it's about every ignoramous in this thread.
Didn't Jesse jackson just spend the last 50 years crapping on MLK's message?
Billups and Garnett took the rhetoric and ran with it? Gee, that must mean they're right, huh?
Do you know old that is? Yankee fans threw batteries at Jim Rice for chrissakes. Does that mean people in NY are racist across the board? Of course not. How akward of a premise.
I mean, it's so dumb.
There are racists everywhere, it's not just Boston because there was a nationally broadcsted busing incident in the mid 1970s. Literally every city went through that in the north. Detroit, Philly, NY, CHicago, etc. Please.
Yawkey was a racist owner of the Sox. Ok. So. The first black NHL player played in Boston. The Celtics welcomed many a black player to the organization when it wasn't popular to do so. What is your point here? Boston and New England is littered with racists? lol
The fact that Chauncey Freaking Billups was a bust here explains why he was concerned about "racism" in Boston, too. Maybe he shouldn't have been so concerned with that i in one of the most liberal parts of the country? Mabe the Hawks, Orlando Magic or Charotte should have drafted him, huh? What a tool. Same thing Garnett. What a silly myth that is. It's just sad that people think racism is relegated to one specific part of country, when it's everywhere.
You got one bad apple, one group amongst thousands of others and you impugn an entire city or region? Boston/MA is one of the more liberal areas in the country for crying out loud. It's infamous for taking in NUMEROUS immigrant groups as well, which cannot be said for the South.
Is everyone in California or the west coast racist because they rounded up Japanese immigrants during World War II? Of course not.
For me, I am not shocked at all. All I ask is, when is the victim card tied to race baiting, going to end? Why is it still used? Do you know how insulting that is to people who support minority groups? When you spend your life, your parents spend their lives following a fraud like Jesse Jackson, you become conditioned to play the victim role your entire life like Jesse Jackson did, as he made MILLIONS of off race baiting. It's not my problem some people bought into a race baiting fraud like that.
That's why people like Stephen A. Smith exist and say what he says. Him even posing the question makes him a racist. How does that grab ya? Yeah. Stephen A. Smith is a racist. as is Jamele Hill. Howard Bryant is another. They're obsessed with race baiting and causing a stir, where they profit off of it. It's what they use to write columns, books, you name it. ESPN all but promotes that shock value crap, too, so I blame them for it as well.
I remember Jamele Hill once called Celtics fans Hitler. No lie. She was forced to pull the column down by ESPN. It's race baiting. It's not healthy and people are tired of it.
When will it end?
MLK has rolled over in his grave a million times already with how Jesse Jackson corrupted his leadership, courage and message. MLK was not a race baiter. There is a clear difference between a hero like MLK and a disgraceful human like Jesse Jackson who has profited off of race baiting for 50 years.
Do you know Jackson lied about being the last one to be with MLK when he died? Then, the next day he was on a plane to Chicago to promote himself. He lied about that and tried to piggyback off of MLK. Yep. Truth.
None of what you said above is even accurate. I've acknowldged the race based policies and the skeletons in this country's closet with regards to that. I realize the Emancipation Proclomation, followed by 100 years of no progression and a Civik Rights bill in 1965 being too slow or one some ways embarassing that it needed to be that way. I said that above. There is no question about that. I just don't see what good it does blacks in leadership positions to continue on playing the race card so frequently, when it's completely unneccesary to do so.
1. Do not join a gang.
2. Do not get knocked up or doing any knocking up in high school (0r college).
3. Graduate high school. I don't care how long it takes, just get it done.
4. Get to college.
5. Graduate college.
You have to work towards something and have skills. You can't just show up and expect to be handed something. It doesn't work that way.
This is just a list of stereotypes about what Blacks are like . . . C'mon Rusty. You're smarter than this. These are the kinds of stereotypes that drive Blacks who don't do any of this stuff crazy. Just because you're Black, people assume you're some kind of gang banging father of 20 children who dropped out of school and doesn't work.
Ironic, Richard Sherman just showed young blacks how to do it. The difference is, they won't be going to the NFL and making millions, but they sure can earn a college degree.
There are financing programs available. Loans, grants, sometimes scholarships or blacks can get free tuition in certain circumstances.
I fully realize there all kinds of negatives in certain bad environments for blacks, etc, but that ALSO happens in rural areas for whites, too. Or, even poor Hispanics. It's socio-economic, it's just a not a skin color thing.
You have to make yourself attractive to employers in this society. It's that simple. It's a global economy. People move all over the country, the world, etc, today for a career. If you stay in that bad neighborhood you grew up in, nothing is going to happen.
Joining a gang is not cool. Dealing drugs is not cool. Knocking up chicks left and right, is not cool. I don't care if Shawn Kemp did it or Cromartie does it, it's not cool. Work hard, keep your head down and do what you are supposed to do the best you can, and be a good person and good things will happen. It's not a conspiracy. It's very simple.
People don't sit around board rooms saying "we can't hire or do business with them because they are black". It doesn't happen in 2014. I am not even sure that was a thought 20 years ago.
Finally, it's just a bunch of garbage that companies refuse to hire talented African Americans with college degrees. I have worked and worth with many hard working and intelligent blacks.
There may be certain racist communities in the south that certainly discriminate, but again, if you have the skills, the merit, etc, you will be hired.
Finally, and last time, the word thug is not racist and is not in place of the N Word. It's a preposterous premise.
No one is claiming they can speak for someone who is black and what they've experienced. This has nothing to do with that.
This has to do with a black person or persons claiming white people are sneaking around using a word thug, to not come off racist, when the word thug is applied to all people, not just blacks.
It's highly comical you're telling people like me to take courses on this stuff and have an open discussion, and here you are lecturing an educated individual who took many a course on these topics and having an open discussion on it.
The only problem is, I am not black, so I guess I can't form an opinion on it?