Re: Tim Tebow and Christianity: Is it the secret of his success?
posted at 12/7/2011 11:25 AM EST
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In Response to Re: Tim Tebow and Christianity: Is it the secret of his success? : And yet you can't stop talking about God and religion. This is the paradox of atheism: Atheists are more obsessed with God than 99% of Christians.
Posted by Schumpeters-Ghost
So we are not allowed to defend ourselves against a constant barrage of superstition, at work, in sports forums, at family gatherings, at malls, on sidewalks, on TV, at sporting events...? And when we do, we are accused of being obsessed with religion and your god?
For just one thorough example, right now people like you are spewing bile at R.I.'s Governor Chaffee for his invitation to light the "holiday" tree, denouncing his wobbly attempt to walk the fine line of lawful separation of church and state vs. the appeasing unlawful sponsorship of a religious symbol on public land for the satisfaction of people like you. He didn't wobble enough toward the later for the likes of you, I am certain, because he didn't call it a "Christmas tree. (Never mind that "JESUS" was allegedly born in April, that the tree is a pagan symbol of fertility and regeneration, or that the name "JESUS" is actually a Hebrew acronym roughly translated to, "He whose name shall not be mentioned.")
People like you are claiming this country has had Christmas at it's core from it's inception, but in fact, Christmas was not a widely celebrated holiday in the first 200 years since the Pilgrims outlawed it, correctly labeling it as a holiday of Pagan origin, all the way into the 1800s. Mid-Atlantic and Southern colonists were even less likely to be of Judeo-Christion religious belief, as they tended to be humanists and Deists, descendant of the enlightened British ruling class. Our federal government did not start taking December 25 as a work holiday until about half way through the 1800's. All of these facts are historical. But history and science are two sticking points for people like yourself - yet more irritations for the rational person confronting the superstitious Christian.
An atheist can't get through the day in this country without having religion thrown in his or her face. I try to be tolerant. But when I admit to being an atheist, Christians call me "Satanic:, and that I am going to "Hell". Isn't that heartwarming? I cannot remember the last day religion was not mentioned or thrown in my face some how, some way, by somebody.
I am not obsessed with god or religion. You and your kind are. You bombard me with it. You spend my tax dollars to glorify it. You spend my tax dollars to wage wars on other people of contrasting religious beliefs, just as they have their governments spend tax dollars to wage war on me, my loved ones and my nation. We are constantly caught in your cross-fires, both literal and figurative.
You make it part of everything around us, because your weak, fearful mind cannot grasp human mortality and irrelevance compared to the vast universe. It scares you. So you imagine a sage, timeless, wise human form looking over you to protect you and reward you for things you should do anyway out of human decency, regardless of reward.
Christians would make more friends and win more sympathy/empathy if they tooka cue from Buddhists. Buddhists don;t rage wars over religion. They never throw it in anybody's face. They practice it to themselves and their fellow believers. They never try to recruit, so they never willfully push and manipulate people in recruitment, like Tebow's family does. Buddhists don't;t ask us to spend tax dollars to promote their religion or to ask us put it on our tax dollars. My wife is a life-long Buddhist and she has never asked me to join in her religion, except to drive her to her temple when she did not yet drive, or to experience a festival. No pushing. No guilt. No prevalence. No manipulation. NO insistence. No condemnation. So I have no problem with a religion when it respects my belief to be an atheist, as Buddhism does.
In short, you statement is just another Christian lie, this one steeped in jingoism.
