Time for Patriots to hit panic button at WR?

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    Re: Time for Patriots to hit panic button at WR?

    No, it is not time for the Pats  to hit the panic button!

     
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    Re: Time for Patriots to hit panic button at WR?

    In response to portfolio1's comment:

    In response to TFB12's comment:

     

    The Patriots don't have many holes left, but the one at wide receiver is glaring, and they must take bold steps in the next month. Tom Brady needs enough targets to not only continue the offensive dominance that has lasted over a decade, but to fix the problems the passing offense has had since Randy Moss and his ability to take the top off of defenses left. 

    With the addition of another free agent or two, and a double-dip in the draft they should have enough pieces in the mix for a competition, though it's no guarantee that the offense can continue their torrid pace of 2012.

    The moves the Patriots make at wide receiver over the next month will play a significant part in the final act of Tom Brady's career. Finding and developing new dangerous playmakers for Brady has never been easy, and the Pats have missed far more than they've hit.

    Now it might be the only thing standing between Brady, Belichick and their fourth Super Bowl.

    Read more here: 

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1580906-time-for-patriots-to-hit-the-panic-button-at-wide-receiver

     



    PANIC BUTTON? Really? I am always impressed with the way people feel a need to over state EVERYTHING. From indivudals like us to the media to companies and politicians and .... everyone. Everywhere. From "this will be the death of marriage" (give me a break) to "this will be the death of our rights" (grrrrr) to "we will be SB champs" (hahahahahahahaha... thanks for that one Rexy)....

     

    Of course they need to do something at WR. Of course what they do will impact. If they spend too much money they get too much WR and too little D. If they spend too little money they get to little WR and too much D (can you have too much D)... If they choose poorly let get poor results. If they choose wisely they get wise results.

    So yes, of course they should PANIC. That is clearly the best frame of mind to make any decision. The voters on both sides of the isle prove that every day as do the politicians - who are essentially all bought and paid for by deep pockets (who dont panic but are cool and collected and undermine the very fabric of our democracy.... we have to do something.. about this.. now.. really.... I am not joking.. if we dont it will be time to panic - ironic isnt it?).  

     



    Well said.

     
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    Re: Time for Patriots to hit panic button at WR?

    In response to prolate0spheroid's comment:

    Currently, the roster includes five WRs plus Slater.  The five are: Amendola, Jones, Ebert, Aiken, and Holmes.  Only two of those have any real time playing in the regular season.



    The thing here is while they are going younger, which is good, they are also going with new receivers to the team who have zero playing time with TFB in this offensive sysytem.  Currently they are after Sanders.  So it could be Amendola, Jones and Sanders seeing the majority of playing time and like I said they have no experience in this system with TFB.  That could be a problem as we have seen in the past.  It takes time to get on the same page.  They need to be in the right place at the right time for this offense to work.  I think Lloyd had a good season to build on last season, but we clearly seen it took him time to get not only on somewhat on the same page as TFB but to even find the correct chapter.  Now all these new guys coming in and you have to wonder if that will be a problem.

     

     
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    Re: Time for Patriots to hit panic button at WR?

    In response to RidingWithTheKingII's comment:

    NEWSFLASH: Don't fall for media bait for ratings.

    It's so simple.

    No real Pats fan is "panicking" about anything.


    Yes - please get Rusty's approved reading list prior to posting.  No opinion is valuable unless it is complimentary to his own. 

    THIS HAS BEEN A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT.

    Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

     
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    Re: Time for Patriots to hit panic button at WR?

    Tom Brady's 1st 6 seasons averaged 3,600 yards and 24 tds per season. We won 3 SB's

    Tom Brady's last 5 seasons averaged 4,600 yards and 37 tds per season. We lost 2 SB's

    We need something, but it's not receivers. We need better coaching in clutch situations, better preperation in all 3 phases which will result in better execution. Throw Brady 2 Jags, with Gronk ,Hern and Amendola to compliment 2 very talented RB's in Ridley and Vareen and 1 of the best O-lines in the LG and they should do fine, as long as they stay mentally tough. Which is something we have not been for many years.

     
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    Tom Brady's 1st 6 seasons averaged 3,600 yards and 24 tds per season. We won 3 SB's

    Tom Brady's last 5 seasons averaged 4,600 yards and 37 tds per season. We lost 2 SB's

    We need something, but it's not receivers. We need better coaching in clutch situations, better preperation in all 3 phases which will result in better execution. Throw Brady 2 Jags, with Gronk ,Hern and Amendola to compliment 2 very talented RB's in Ridley and Vareen and 1 of the best O-lines in the LG and they should do fine, as long as they stay mentally tough. Which is something we have not been for many years.




    absolutely right champ.... what we need at wr is depth and it would be nice to have a true tall wr at 6'3 or more just as an endzone threat.

     

    what this team has lacked more than anything is that true vet leadership and killer instinct and clutchness on both O and D the last half dozen years

     
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    Is this thread a joke? I sure hope so. Jeez

     
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    why not change? The guys we had last year could only manage one touchdown in the game that mattered. This fantasy football bs never wins championships, just ask the 2001 Rams.

     
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    Tom Brady's 1st 6 seasons averaged 3,600 yards and 24 tds per season. We won 3 SB's

    Tom Brady's last 5 seasons averaged 4,600 yards and 37 tds per season. We lost 2 SB's

    We need something, but it's not receivers. We need better coaching in clutch situations, better preperation in all 3 phases which will result in better execution. Throw Brady 2 Jags, with Gronk ,Hern and Amendola to compliment 2 very talented RB's in Ridley and Vareen and 1 of the best O-lines in the LG and they should do fine, as long as they stay mentally tough. Which is something we have not been for many years.

     




    "Coaching"?  We need better EXECUTION in clutch situations. These guys are big boys. They get paid millions to make plays. It's as simple as that.

     

    You phrasing it as "coaching" is a cop out for people like Brady or Welker who failed in those clutch situations.

    The D, as flawed as it was in 2011, was VERY MUCH mentally tough when at its healthiest. One thing you can't take away from them is they battle. Big time.

    BB has a bunch of strong willed players on his team on D and on ON as well.  It's the one play that they're not getting and sadly, it's been really tied mostly to Brady and Welker in an imbalanced shotgun spread with 40+ passes.

    Every single time Pats fans have been disappointed in a postseason loss whether it be 2007's SB, 2010's playoff loss to the Jets, 2011s SB or 2012s AFC title game, what is the common denominator?

    It's not the D because they aren't not showing up in those games.  They're holding and holding and holding. It's our offense not doing jack squat for large chunks of the game.

    Tweak the offense to more base sets, more motion and more Brady under center, with playcalls centered around setting up play action and Brady targeting all wepaons early in games and to both sides of the field.

    Open the windows.

     

     




    For you to excuse coaching and blame Brady and Welker means it is not worth discussing with you. Bob Kraft just said it best and I am sure Bill Beilichick would say the same. They do not answer to Tom Brady. You're a smart kid, don't let yourself get backed into a corner where you look stupid if you change your opinion. Brady doesn't coach the offense. Brady doesn't make the game plans. Brady doesn't call the plays.

    Get over it.

     
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    Re: Time for Patriots to hit panic button at WR?

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    Well, like lawyers, they use dramatic words to sell something. It's what the media does. In fact, TFB12's behavior around here in recent weeks is why they DO use words like that. Sadly, it works.

     

    Propaganda works on some humans.  Sad, but the truth.




    Maybe articles like this is for those fans who continue to be in denial!  The article does have some good arguments, it does have some merit to it.  Such as.... what I have been arguing on here since they let Moss go.  They clearly have not found a replacement for him since he was kicked to the curb and clearly it has been a very big problem.  No we can all sit back and say look what they have done without a deep threat but what you seem to not want to understand is could you imagine what they could have done with a deep threat here?  Many complain about the run game, well the run game would improve with a deep threat here.  Without a deep threat teams play the short to mid field, stack everyone in the box and that is going to hurt the run game.  Spread that defense out and look what type of run game they could have.  Not only that, the mid to short field in the passing game would open up more so too.  It's not rocket science guys!! Stop pretending like everything is perfect.  It isn't!

     
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    I think this is the year they address the WR position much like they did the RB position, and the TE before that. I don't know who, but I think they will draft two WRs that we will be talking about this time next year as extrememly talented and vital parts of the offense. Just a gut feeling.

     

    The time has come for them to grow some of their own talent at the position, they haven't done so in a decade, Branch and Givens being the last true successful picks. Meanwhile look at what a team like the Pakcers have, building great WR groups with draft picks like Jennings, Nelson, and Cobb, supplementing them with a solid veteran guy like James Jones. Time to stop taking flyers on the Ochocincos and Galloways and build some guys to their system.

     
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    Re: Time for Patriots to hit panic button at WR?

    In response to sporter81's comment:

    why not change? The guys we had last year could only manage one touchdown in the game that mattered. This fantasy football bs never wins championships, just ask the 2001 Rams.



    yep, i mean im sad to see wes and lloyd go, but changes were needed....you cant score 13 points in a home afc championship game and then do nothing..

     
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    yep, i mean im sad to see wes and lloyd go, but changes were needed....you cant score 13 points in a home afc championship game and then do nothing..



    5 words.......

    Deep Threat

    Game Plan

    Outcoached

     

     

     
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    Re: Time for Patriots to hit panic button at WR?

    Too early to hit the panic button, IMO... doubt they roll into the 2013 season this short handed.  There are still FA options out there (Sanders/Lloyd/Edelman, etc.) as well as a ton of Day 1/2 options in the draft that could contribute next season (Give me Hopkins, Allen, Austin, Stedman Bailey or Quinton Patton, etc.).

     

     
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    Re: Time for Patriots to hit panic button at WR?

    In response to TrueChamp's comment:

    Tom Brady's 1st 6 seasons averaged 3,600 yards and 24 tds per season. We won 3 SB's

    Tom Brady's last 5 seasons averaged 4,600 yards and 37 tds per season. We lost 2 SB's

    We need something, but it's not receivers. We need better coaching in clutch situations, better preperation in all 3 phases which will result in better execution. Throw Brady 2 Jags, with Gronk ,Hern and Amendola to compliment 2 very talented RB's in Ridley and Vareen and 1 of the best O-lines in the LG and they should do fine, as long as they stay mentally tough. Which is something we have not been for many years.


    You need a better performance from your offense throughout the playoffs.  In their losses the offense sputtered.  If that happens you don't need the legendary defense that you had when you won those SB's.  If not, a better defense is necessary. 

     
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    Re: Time for Patriots to hit panic button at WR?

    I'm with you TFB. I'm not worried about Amendola so much, just the supporting cast.

    Time for BB to make a trade for Larry Fitzgerald. We need at least 1 true #1 WR.

    Molasses Mike, LOL Wtfk ?

     
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