Time to vote for Patriots' "Mt. Rushmore"!

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    Time to vote for Patriots' "Mt. Rushmore"!

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/18/its-patriots-mt-rushmore-time/

     

    It’s Patriots’ Mt. Rushmore time

    Posted by Mike Florio on June 18, 2013, 2:25 PM EDT Green Bay Packers v New England PatriotsGetty Images

     

    The various AFC Mt. Rushmores will get a lot more interesting at 5:00 p.m. ET on Thursday, when we select four Patriots for placement on their hill of immortality.

    It’ll happen on NBCSN’s Pro Football Talk.

    Pats fans and Pats anti-fans alike will be ready to vote for (or not for) certain specific figures who fueled the team’s run of three Super Bowl wins in four years, especially in light of the Spygate scandal and the associated arguments and/or conspiracy theories it spawned.

    But despite the efforts of some to nominate men like Matt Walsh for the honor, the Pats’ still have their titles — if not all of their rings.

    And the best part about the Mt. Rushmore honor is that the winners get nothing tangible.  Which gives heads of state one less thing to steal.

    Who's on your Patriots' Mt. Rushmore? Bruce ArmstrongBill BelichickTom BradyTroy BrownTedy BruschiJohn HannahRobert KraftTy LawWillie McGinestStanley MorganAndre TippettAdam Vinatieri Vote Polldaddy.com

     
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    I would imagine Kraft, BB and TFB are 3 of the 4 so the question really is who would be # 4.  Certainly there will be arguments for Tippet, Haynes, Morgan and probably even some Troy Browns but #4 should belong to John Hannah.

     

    If you are talking players only.... TFB, Hannah, Tippet and Haynes

     

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    In response to BurtonMercer's comment:

    No way Mike Haynes over Troy Brown. Troy Brown screams what the Pats are all about here. He's also the one player on offense who sort of bridged the gap between the Parcells era and what BB has done since 2000 in NE.

    Add in his clutch plays, his selfless team attitude, great at punt returns, playing a solid nickel in emergenices, and he's clearly not only a winner, but criminally underrated, even by you and other fans.

    In another era, he's a Hall of Famer. Absolute truth. 4 SBs, 3 rings, the consummate well rounded and consistent player.

    Put him in the 1920s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s or even the 1980s on a really good NFC team like Redskins or 49ers and he would have ben a HOFer.

     




    No doubt Brown was an important member of the SB winning teams but if we are talking greatest players then Brown isn't before Haynes or Morgan, imo.  Top 5 all time would be Brady, Hannah, Tippet, Haynes, Morgan.

    The whole argument of if he played in a different era or team is total garbage.  That argument could be made for just about anyone and everyone.

     
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    I think you eventually have to put Kraft somewhere... inside or outside Gillette by himself....I have to go with Brady, Hannah, Tippet, Brown, and Morgan

     

       

                

     
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    Re: Time to vote for Patriots'

    In response to BurtonMercer's comment:

    In response to TFB12's comment:

     

    In response to BurtonMercer's comment:

     

    No way Mike Haynes over Troy Brown. Troy Brown screams what the Pats are all about here. He's also the one player on offense who sort of bridged the gap between the Parcells era and what BB has done since 2000 in NE.

    Add in his clutch plays, his selfless team attitude, great at punt returns, playing a solid nickel in emergenices, and he's clearly not only a winner, but criminally underrated, even by you and other fans.

    In another era, he's a Hall of Famer. Absolute truth. 4 SBs, 3 rings, the consummate well rounded and consistent player.

    Put him in the 1920s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s or even the 1980s on a really good NFC team like Redskins or 49ers and he would have ben a HOFer.

     

     




    No doubt Brown was an important member of the SB winning teams but if we are talking greatest players then Brown isn't before Haynes or Morgan, imo.  Top 5 all time would be Brady, Hannah, Tippet, Haynes, Morgan.

     

    The whole argument of if he played in a different era or team is total garbage.  That argument could be made for just about anyone and everyone.

     



    It's "garbage" based on how some eras are totally different than others?  You know absolutely nothing about the history of football.

    Comparing the 1950s to the 00s for example is what is garbage.  The game has evolved so much since the league's inception.  Since the explosion of the passing era in the 1970s with the QBs who came out of the 1960s and into the 1970s and 1980s, stats have become more of a barometer of a HOF player either via a QB, TE or WR as opposed to before where it was not only production but, winning championships.

    For example, is Jerome Bettis a HOF RB on the same plane as Marion Motley? Answer? No.

    Please learn the game.

     



    You are rediculous!

    The whole era argument is not only a discussion problem in football but all sports!   No doubt the sports change, the athletes change (bigger, faster, stronger), that's why you can't factor the era in with these type of discussions. 

    You have to take what the players did in the era they played.  Haynes and Morgan had better career's in the era they played on the Patriots then Brown did in the era he played.  No, Haynes and Morgan never won SB's with the Patriots but they had better individual careers then Brown.  If you want to take out what they did individually and just base it on SB's then that really isn't fair.  If you do that then there is as much reason to add Adam Vinatieri into the discussion.  He was a major factor in winning SB's.

     

     
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    Re: Time to vote for Patriots'

    The Rushmore placement should be for the elite of the franchise.

    John Hannah - Arguably the greatest OL lineman ever.

    Bob Kraft - Saved the franchise and has turned it into one of the model franchises of the league.

    Bill Belichik - 13 yrs in NE 157 Reg wins (70%) 17 playoff wins 5 AFC titles 3 SB wins.

    Tom Brady - Possibly the greatest of all time. Still has a chance to build on his career resume.

     

    1st alternate Andre Tippett

     
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