Re: To all the Gloom and Doomer's
posted at 8/31/2010 12:43 AM EDT
In Response to Re: To all the Gloom and Doomer's
I think the first thing some of the doubters need to do is look at the numbers from last year and if you do they can really only go up from last year. So here's some stats of the players that left. Jarvis Green Games 13 Tackles 36 Sacks 1 Forced Fumbles 0 http://www.nfl.com/players/jarvisgreen/profile?id=GRE251964
Ty Warren Games 13 Tackles 46 Sacks 1 Forced Fumbles 0 http://www.nfl.com/players/tywarren/profile?id=WAR718852
Adalius Thomas Games 14 Tackles 34 Sacks 3 Forced Fumbles 0 http://www.nfl.com/players/adaliusthomas/profile?id=THO013777
Shawn Springs Games 12 Tackles 40 Interceptions 1 Passes Defensed 4 http://www.nfl.com/players/shawnsprings/profile?id=SPR379648
Ok after looking at numbers yeah these guys were all vets but no one came close to being an all-pro. So we aren't replacing any pro-bowlers. So now does anyone think Gerard Warren can at least post similar numbers that Ty Warren posted? What about Ron Brace year 2 can he put up the same numbers or better than Jarvis Green? Figure we added Damonie Lewis as a backup and Myron Pryor is in his 2nd year. Now for the linebackers we have Banta-Cain and Burgess outside same as last year. Mayo back inside and if he stays healthy this year should be an improvement over last season. Guyton goes to the bench which improves our depth and Spikes inside. Depth we added Cunningham to go with McKenzie basically a rookie. Then throw in a wild card with Murrell, Ninkovich, and/or Woods. Is anyone really going to miss the 3 sacks and mal-contentedness of A. Thomas? Secondary can Butler or McCourty outperform Springs. Figure Butler should be better than last year. Then Wheatley or Wilhitte should add some improve the depth at cornerback with another year of experience. Chung replacing the McGowan/Sanders rotation at safety with those two guys going to the bench. I see continued improvements in the defensive backfield. Overall this D should be better than last year. I think it will be a top 10 D in points and lets face it that's the most important category at the end of the day.
Posted by Wizardsjag
good post...let me offer a different lens. at the end of the day, i'd like to see them fix problems i observed over the last three years that i do not remember they had during the sb run. here are a few things i would watch for during teh first few games.
1) how easy or hard is it for the pats to give up a td after the opponent gets first and goal inside the 5? maybe it' selctive memory but the memory of that goal stand against the colts (with willie capping with the sack) really is still vivid in my mind. that i thought defined the pats. i don't remember seeing a stop close to that in past thre years. the question si whether spikes-mayo will hold up at two levels. will they or the olbs get to the runner soon enough and when they do, will they be able to bring down the runner and not get pushed back into the end zone?
2) when the pats go into the third or fourth qtr with a lead of 10 or less, will they effectively pressure the qb? the past three years, they seemed to play not to lose in these situations. i would often observe them consistently going to a three-man rush that does not even get within a 5 yards of the qb. this does not align with a bb interview i listened to back in the good old days where the interviewer was praising the d for generating sacks (i know they were never a very high sacking team), and bb said that it was easier to get sacks when you have the lead. that stuck in my head and that meant to me that they were aggressive even with a lead back then. regardles of whether my observation is correct, i would like to see them continuing to be aggressive on d even with the lead.
3) they were pretty unpredictable on offense back in the good old days. during the past three years, i could guess pretty much with good success rate what they were calling on critical downs (normally third, behind on score or opponent rallying, third or fourth quarter). it was going to be either of the screen to faulk or the underneath to welker. after the baltimore game, i heard an interview of ray lewis where he said he would listen to radio coverage of pats games and know exactly how the pats were going to play it just by the announcers' description of the field formations. that is so different from the time that radio announcers were praising weiss for calling plays nobody expected.
4) i don't think any qb fears the pats d anymore. i loved it when the pats rattled manning as early as the first qtr...when he would give up 3 INTs in a game. the key is pressure up front. the last time i saw that happen to manning, it was the saints who did it to him.
5) special teams has been mediocre at best over the past few years. i have not checked but they seem to give up a lot of yards on punt and ko reutrns while not getting much when theya re returning.
6) i know this is part of the bend but don't break philosophy. however, i really can't stand constantly seeing the d give up the catch at the right first down marker along the sideline or in the middle just a yard or two short of first down.
even if they start 2-2 or 2-3, i would be very encouraged if i see those fixed.