To all (well the 3) Defense is not the Problem Posters

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    To all (well the 3) Defense is not the Problem Posters

    Seems our boy BB and the new kid in town Lombardi completely disagree with your totally wrong analysis of the team.

     Finally after 10 frutile years of Free Agency and Value Draft picking the boys are throwing some REAL money at the Real problem.....The Defense.

    Thank you Executive of the year Lombardi!!

     
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    Yes I think getting Lombardi was great for us

     
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    It appears BB has finally gotten the help he needed regarding incoming personnel acquisitions. Hopefully we will see this new approach come draft day as well.

     
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    This reminds me of how they loaded up in 2007, except on the other side of the ball.  I'll be interested to see what BB does during the rest of FA and the draft. 

     
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    Thank god they've added to the defense, now maybe the offense will score more than 14 and 17 points in the Super Bowl... see how silly that sounds?

     
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    Thank god they've added to the defense, now maybe the offense will score more than 14 and 17 points in the Super Bowl... see how silly that sounds?

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    Maybe now the defense will get off the field so the offense will have more than 8 possessions to work with.

     
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    Thank god they've added to the defense, now maybe the offense will score more than 14 and 17 points in the Super Bowl... see how silly that sounds?




    NOT!  They can't score a lot of points while the D is on the field, and with possessions disappearing at an  OBSCENE rate..  Is this really a foriegn concept to you?  Did you not hear them mention at least 5 times during the Pats/Donkeys game?  7 freaken possessions!
    And you've been telling us how smart you are, all these years.  PFFT

    Apparently bb, with help from Lombardi, agrees and can admit it.  Sorry you can't.

    See how silly you sound?

     
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    Thank god they've added to the defense, now maybe the offense will score more than 14 and 17 points in the Super Bowl... see how silly that sounds?

    I love the sound of this straight to the gut truth!




    Maybe now the defense will get off the field so the offense will have more than 8 possessions to work with.

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    There is something to the fact that Lombardi has long had a chip on his shoulder. His insights have, however, never been in question for me. Welcome back. You and Bill just combine your skill sets and give us another Ring.

    Tom will love it even more and he does deserve it contrary to what a lot of our posters seem to say...

    This has the feel of a needs based free agency. So far, check!

    I think the draft should hit, too (great talent in most rounds - such a deep draft of talent).

    Now we just need our emerging stars to take it to the next level...and for all to gel at the same time. That's the thing og Super Bowl winner. Nice watching Mac Ginnest on TV..He's excited...so am I

     

     
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    In response to tcal2-'s comment:

    Seems our boy BB and the new kid in town Lombardi completely disagree with your totally wrong analysis of the team.

     Finally after 10 frutile years of Free Agency and Value Draft picking the boys are throwing some REAL money at the Real problem.....The Defense.

    Thank you Executive of the year Lombardi!!



         The Pats have done okay in free agency thus far. But, have they really improved that much to dethrone Denver, and then have a chance against whoever comes out of the NFC?

         My answer is...no. The Pats still need a good rotational pass rusher to spell Nink and Chandler Jones once in a while, and badly need a huge, pocket collapsing DT...especially if Vince Wilfolk cannot be brought to terms, and ends up being released.

         On offense, they need to upgrade at OC and at RG...far more than they need to give Tom Brady more "weapons".

     

     
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    Seems our boy BB and the new kid in town Lombardi completely disagree with your totally wrong analysis of the team.

     Finally after 10 frutile years of Free Agency and Value Draft picking the boys are throwing some REAL money at the Real problem.....The Defense.

    Thank you Executive of the year Lombardi!!

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    How can the problem be the D?  We only gave up 26 points to the Greatest Offense of all time.  We ONLY scored 16.  THAT'S 16 points!!  And if you look at the other playoff losses the last 5-6 years, you will see that we could not score points. 

    2012 vs. Ravens: 13 pts.

    2011 SB vs. Giants: 17pts.

    Our issues have stemmed mainly from the (lack of ) O-line protection and not being able to score points. 

     
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    Still need to shore up the DL and pass rush....not sure all of it can be done in the draft...another veteran WR wouldn't hurt

     
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    Maybe now the defense will get off the field so the offense will have more than 8 possessions to work with.



    Possessions argument is a crock of sht, in the last Super Bowl both teams had an equal amount of possessions (9 actually), our offense turned the ball over twice, once a safety. 

    Our defense actually forced the Giants to punt four times, once more than the Giant defense did to us. 

    Offense has to move the ball and score points, they didn't.  Excuses are for losers. 

     
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    So now we go through an 'I told you so' exercise?  Hey, post whatever you wish but egad guys can't we at least get through the first week of free agency and applaud 3 important signings without being at one another's throats? 

    Was it Lombardi?  Was BB going to do it anyway?  Was it Caserio?  Was it BB's girlfriend?  Who the (^%*(& gives a (&%*???

     
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    In response to wozzy's comment:
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    Thank god they've added to the defense, now maybe the offense will score more than 14 and 17 points in the Super Bowl... see how silly that sounds?

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    Yeah, maybe the defense can get the other team off the field so the offense can have more opportunities to try and score.  Not only that, have you ever heard of low scoring, hard fought games?  Sometimes they turn out like that, funny thing is the Pats scored to take the lead with less then 3 minutes to go in both games.... only to have the defense give up game losing drives.  Good job BB for recognizing this and adding to the defense.

     
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    Maybe now the defense will get off the field so the offense will have more than 8 possessions to work with.

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    Possessions arguement is a crock of sht, in the last Super Bowl both teams had an equal amount of possessions (9 actually), our offense turned the ball over twice, once a safety. 

    Our defense actually forced the Giants to punt four times, once more than the Giant defense did to us. 

    Offense has to move the ball and score points, they didn't.  Excuses are for losers. 

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    Crock of s hit my azz!  Equal possessions isn't even an issue.   W T F, They normally are equal.  ITS THE LACK OF THEM THAT MATTERS!  7 possessions is 5 less than an average NFL game.

    That's 5 LESS OPPORTUNITIES TO SCORE!!!  For both teams.  DO YOU GET IT YET?

    7 possessions means a total of 49 points you can score, 12 means 84 total points you can score.  5 less possessions means that's 35 points you CAN'T SCORE

    Why don't you go back and check all the games where the Pats scored 34 points and see how many possessions there were?  12+, that's how many..  Now go check the low scoring games.

    You will always see lower points scored with lower possessions!

    Do you get why they are always mentioning "the D NEEDS to get off the field"?

    It's because the O CAN"T score with the D on the field and the game is timed.

    How many times do we have to explain this to you?

    Do you think you can bowl a 300 game with only 7 frames?

    No you can't and neither can you score your average points with 5 less possessions unless you are fortunate enough to be playing a jv D, like the Pats.  Then you can score on all but one possession.  See how that works?  DUH!

    Christ.  Even my 10 year old daughter understand that with less opportunities to score, you are likely to score less.  It's 3rd grade math.  lol
     

     
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    Thank god they've added to the defense, now maybe the offense will score more than 14 and 17 points in the Super Bowl... see how silly that sounds?

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    You mean like in the Super Bowl against the Eagles? When the offense didn't get more than one first down in the first quarter...and turned the ball over 2 times in the first half. Or when going into the 4th quarter they only had put up 14 points. Or how about the Super Bowl against the Rams? How many points did the offense score in that one? It's funny how fans forget how we won those games...defense. Defense wins championships, something we haven't had in years. Bill Belichick knows it.

     
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    Maybe now the defense will get off the field so the offense will have more than 8 possessions to work with.

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    Possessions arguement is a crock of sht, in the last Super Bowl both teams had an equal amount of possessions

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    Not really wozz. If you're going to complain about the total points scored, you have to consider the number of possessions.

    The Giants used the old-time football strategy of keeping a high powered offense off the field with ball control, and it worked perfectly.

    It's just as simple as that.

     
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    In Lombardi I Trust

     
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    So now we go through an 'I told you so' exercise?  Hey, post whatever you wish but egad guys can't we at least get through the first week of free agency and applaud 3 important signings without being at one another's throats? 

    Was it Lombardi?  Was BB going to do it anyway?  Was it Caserio?  Was it BB's girlfriend?  Who the (^%*(& gives a (&%*???

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    Those of us who were right! LMAO

     
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    In Lombardi I Trust

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    +1

     
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    Saying possessions don't matter in total scoring for football is like saying a basketball player should score as much if he takes 10 shots or 20 shots during the game.

    See how silly that claim sounds now?

     
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    Saying possessions don't matter in total scoring for football is like saying a basketball player should score as much if he takes 10 shots or 20 shots during the game.

    See how silly that claim sounds now?

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    True, but it's all moot now.   Apparently it took Lombardi to make the case that the window was closing and the Pats have finally decided to "go for it" in FA for the first time in 7 years.

     

     
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    Saying possessions don't matter in total scoring for football is like saying a basketball player should score as much if he takes 10 shots or 20 shots during the game.

    See how silly that claim sounds now?

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    True, but it's all moot now.   Apparently it took Lombardi to make the case that the window was closing and the Pats have finally decided to "go for it" in FA for the first time in 7 years.

     

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    I think we have all known a brilliant guy from some field. Often those types are so brilliant they don't see the forest for the trees at times and need somebody to give them a good slap for a reality check. BB is that kind of gut and he hired Lombardi to slap him.

     
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    Thank god they've added to the defense, now maybe the offense will score more than 14 and 17 points in the Super Bowl... see how silly that sounds?

     




    NOT!  They can't score a lot of points while the D is on the field, and with possessions disappearing at an  OBSCENE rate..  Is this really a foriegn concept to you?  Did you not hear them mention at least 5 times during the Pats/Donkeys game?  7 freaken possessions!
    And you've been telling us how smart you are, all these years.  PFFT

     

    Apparently bb, with help from Lombardi, agrees and can admit it.  Sorry you can't.

    See how silly you sound?

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    umm they had just as many posessions as the giants did but couldnt score. were the three and outs the defenses problem? what about the interceptions? the defense picked off manning in the last superbowl only to have brady throw a pick in the very next play. the offense has stunk in the superbowls and afc championship games for years.

     
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    Maybe now the defense will get off the field so the offense will have more than 8 possessions to work with.

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    Possessions arguement is a crock of sht, in the last Super Bowl both teams had an equal amount of possessions (9 actually), our offense turned the ball over twice, once a safety. 

    Our defense actually forced the Giants to punt four times, once more than the Giant defense did to us. 

    Offense has to move the ball and score points, they didn't.  Excuses are for losers. 

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    exactly. some people here are so set on their views that they are completely blinded by the facts. sure the defense has had some bad games and given up touchdowns late but in both games the patriots had the ball last and couldnt even get a first down hopefully when we have the most dominant defense in the league this season that some will see the light. how many points did the defense give up in the last two superbowls? wouldnt most teams win in giving up such few points?

    they win and lose as a team

     
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