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Hey, remember that time you claimed that the Patriots defense gave up fewer points than the Jets?  That was your best lie yet.

No. No, I don't, Frank158/Phat Rex.

Shocking!  We call that backpeddle.  Anything else you want to recant? How about this.  I show you where you claimed that the patriots defense gave up few points and you self-ban (delete) yet another account of yours?

It's "backpedal", not "backpeddle". No is walking backwards and selling a product or a service, rubelips.

Please show us how the Jets gave up less points this year. Thanks, Frank158.

How cute.  I knew that one would bring out the spelling police.

 I think you better tell Al Gore that his internet is misspelling things all over the place.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=backpeddle

I prefer the REAL definition like educated folk do, Frank158/Phat Rex. It must stink to have a small wee-wee, work at a movie theater and be dumb.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/backpedal

Guess who has two thumbs and could give twoshits what you prefer?  Point is, you take the bait every time.  You just can't help yourself.

Me, I prefer the dictionary that is not free.  It makes me feel like there's value to it.

Merriam Webster is a company, so they charge for their dictionaries.

Enjoy, Dahmer!

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/backpedal

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yaaaawn! Sanchez, along with his two AFC championship games has one losing season in his career.  Pouha had identical numbers to Wilfork in 2011 and was out much of 2012. Claiming that as proof of anything is like saying McCOurty is better than Revis becasue Revis was hurt.  In reality what I said was, Wilfork was getting paid 3 times as much as Pouha and was grossly overpaid.  If you want to compare Wilkerson & McCourty's effect on their respective D's - the patsies pass D was bottom 5 in 2012 and has been for the last few years.  The Jets run D? Nope not bottom 5.  Tebow? They didn't sign Tebow.  They traded a 4th round pick for a backup QB.  Sorry if you expected more, I didn't.  I expected more out of the 15 guys on IR, but not out of Tebow.

LMFAO.  Sanchez has 52 turnovers in the last 2 seasons combined.  He has thrown more INTs than TDs in his career.  He got benched this past season for a complete scrub because he sucked so badly.  The guy is a bust and would be gone if it weren't for the albatross extension your genius GM gave him.  He is a huge bust.  Any football fan with a brain knows this.

The Jet's run D was ranked 26th in the NFL last season.  Oh wow it is so awesome.  In addition you most certainly said that Pou'ha was as good as Wilfork as you used that as the basis for arguing Wilfork was overpaid.  Of course you conveniently got yourself banned so I can't go back and expose your idiocy.  Wilfork just got  named to the All-Pro team.  Again.  And he has played more snaps than any DL over the past 2 years (http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4739645/wilfork-snaps-to-it-for-patriots) while Pou'ha has been injured or riding the bench on passing downs because he is a one-trick pony.  Yeah Pou'ha is as good as Wilfork.  LMFAO @ U.

You said the trade for Tebow was a worth it because a 4th round pick was a good trade for a weapon to be used in the wildcat.  LMFAO @ U.

You have so said so many stupid things on this site it defies imagination.  Learn the game and enjoy not winning the division again next year.  LMFAO @ U.

As the entire board can see, RKrap said "30 million under the cap" as his premise.  He only later sneakily adjusted it to "20-30 million" as a sneaky way to cover his butt, backpedaling from his orginal premise.

He's basing it off some homeriffic, deluded Jets dork who likes to use wishful thinking and no access to contract details to speculate at where the Jets are (now only 5.7 under the cap after a mass exodus of recent cuts).

The quickest way to get 24 more million under the cap in the next 2 weeks would be to trade Revis, but you can't trade right now. 

So, to get to 30 million under the cap with 10 starters under contract currently, it would take a miracle.

Once the draft hits at the end of April, NY will need to have around 5 mil set aside to get those rookies under contract.  With their major cap problems, they will likely lowball their draft picks, which will keep them out of camp for much of the summer as well. lol

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As the entire board can see, RKrap said "30 million under the cap" as his premise.  He only later sneakily adjusted it to "20-30 million" as a sneaky way to cover his butt, backpedaling from his orginal premise.

He's basing it off some homeriffic, deluded Jets dork who likes to use wishful thinking and no access to contract details to speculate at where the Jets are (now only 5.7 under the cap after a mass exodus of recent cuts).

The quickest way to get 24 more million under the cap in the next 2 weeks would be to trade Revis, but you can't trade right now. 

So, to get to 30 million under the cap with 10 starters under contract currently, it would take a miracle.

Once the draft hits at the end of April, NY will need to have around 5 mil set aside to get those rookies under contract.  With their major cap problems, they will likely lowball their draft picks, which will keep them out of camp for much of the summer as well. lol

They can't low ball the draft picks. The contracts are already set but the recent CBA and can't really be moved. Given where they pick unless they trade out of those picks they will need all the money they are under right now just to sign those guys

So, under the new CBA, no agents and GMs negotiate any rookie deal?  So, how does it work then?

It's very complicated structure but this was the best article I found to explain it

http://www.tfdssports.com/2012-articles/june/how-the-nfls-rookie-salary-scale-works.html

Here's a cap break down of contracts so you can test out the method

http://www.nyjetscap.com/2012_Articles/rookiecap.php

But the basic information is that it's always a 4 year deal with a 5th year option that the team needs to kick in at the end of the 3rd year, which if kicked in guarantees the 5th year at the average of the top 10 players at that position. You are allocated a certain amount of money depending on position they were picked at and the base has to be a certain minimum that is set. You can put more into the base or more into the signing bonus but the total amount spent is set. Now it's not offical but word is the unoffical is that the signing bonus of the player cannot exceed the signing bonus of previous picks so that's why last year the picks pretty much signed in order

That's interesting and a worse situation within the rookie cap than I figured.  I wouldn't even hire an agent. Just have a lawyer look over the deal and pay for that.

As the entire board can see, RKrap said "30 million under the cap" as his premise.  He only later sneakily adjusted it to "20-30 million" as a sneaky way to cover his butt, backpedaling from his orginal premise.

He's basing it off some homeriffic, deluded Jets dork who likes to use wishful thinking and no access to contract details to speculate at where the Jets are (now only 5.7 under the cap after a mass exodus of recent cuts).

The quickest way to get 24 more million under the cap in the next 2 weeks would be to trade Revis, but you can't trade right now. 

So, to get to 30 million under the cap with 10 starters under contract currently, it would take a miracle.

Once the draft hits at the end of April, NY will need to have around 5 mil set aside to get those rookies under contract.  With their major cap problems, they will likely lowball their draft picks, which will keep them out of camp for much of the summer as well. lol

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I stopped reading it half way through, but I've got to admit it seemed very thoughtful and thorough. It makes me laugh so hard that I swear to god my face is going to fall clean off when I listen to Rusty talk about the scary salary cap. Take the Jets for example - they spent - they spent on corners, linebackers, recievers...and if it weren't for their horrible QB and a devastating injury to their best player...they would be a threat. As it was, they were a threat despite Sanchez for a couple of seasons. And now the bill is due, and with the way the NFL salary cap is set up a team like the jets, Skins, Cowboys...on and on and on...will be able to cut meaningless dead weight from their roster in a matter of days if they so choose - and will be right back in business like nothing happened. I have no clue why some people don't understand this...none.

A threat? To do what? No running game, no QB, no receivers. So their defense was adequate, this constitutes a threat?

I'm not reading War and Peace above but I skimmed it. Looks like they just need to cut/restructure half the team and they'll be under the cap. Same goes for a whole bunch of teams. As a Pats fan, color me unconcerned about the NYJ.  Last I checked their QB is still the worst starting QB in the league. They'll be 6-10 again next year. A real threat.