Trading Places

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    Re: Trading Places

    In response to PhatVirgin's comment:

    "There's been too much on Peyton's plate, too much responsibility. Brady never had that kind of pressure in New England. He always had a defense and a running game to support him."



    In 2001 the Patriots averaged 3.8 ypc and 112.1 yards per game.

    For reference the Colts averaged 4.5 ypc and 122.9 yards per game.

     

    In 2003 the Patriots averaged 3.4 ypc and 100.4 yards per game

    For reference the Colts averaged 3.7 ypc and 105.9 yards per game

     

    Not every year was 2004.  This myth that Brady always had this elite running game backing him up needs to stop.

     

     
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    Re: Trading Places

    Manning here Pats would never have won a thing! Not only is he a choker, but no Pats GM would have cried and whined to league to change rules and PI flag his way into winning games....

     
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    Re: Trading Places

    In response to pcmIV's comment:

    In response to PhatVirgin's comment:

     

     

    "There's been too much on Peyton's plate, too much responsibility. Brady never had that kind of pressure in New England. He always had a defense and a running game to support him."

     

     



    In 2001 the Patriots averaged 3.8 ypc and 112.1 yards per game.

    For reference the Colts averaged 4.5 ypc and 122.9 yards per game.

     

    In 2003 the Patriots averaged 3.4 ypc and 100.4 yards per game

    For reference the Colts averaged 3.7 ypc and 105.9 yards per game

     

    Not every year was 2004.  This myth that Brady always had this elite running game backing him up needs to stop.

     



    No, on the contrary he never had an elite running game outside of 2004, but if didn't stop us from utilizing a smash mouth rushing attack in order to dictate the battle at the LOS, and prevent a defense from doing what they've done to Brady in the post season for the last 6 years. It didn't matter if we yielded 3.5 ypc, we were committed to balance, and we were certainly not a one dimensional finesse offense....which is exactly what Antonio Pierce of the Giants just said their whole team though of us heading into the 07 SB.

     
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    Re: Trading Places

    In response to pcmIV's comment:

    In response to PhatVirgin's comment:

     

    "There's been too much on Peyton's plate, too much responsibility. Brady never had that kind of pressure in New England. He always had a defense and a running game to support him."

     

     



    In 2001 the Patriots averaged 3.8 ypc and 112.1 yards per game.

    For reference the Colts averaged 4.5 ypc and 122.9 yards per game.

     

    In 2003 the Patriots averaged 3.4 ypc and 100.4 yards per game

    For reference the Colts averaged 3.7 ypc and 105.9 yards per game

     

    Not every year was 2004.  This myth that Brady always had this elite running game backing him up needs to stop.

     



    exactly. He has had exactly 2 years with a Great running game. Every other year was average and Peyton has Always had backs. Edjerrin James, but chose to pass to pad stats.

     
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    Re: Trading Places

    Both teams got what they wanted out of their respective players.

    The Colts drafted Peyton number one and spent the largest part of their salary cap on him and surrounding him with offensive weapons so that he would set lots of records and become the biggest name in the NFL. He had the same offensive coordinator for most of his time in Indy. This kept the media putting him on the cover of magazines and ESPN kept saying 'boy-howdy, how bout that Peyton', which in turn kept the the hicks from Hooterville flocking in and buying jerseys and saying 'damn-hell, I'll tell you what. That Peytons the greatest dad-gum quarterback there ever was'... The fact that the Colts were actually able to luck into one Superbowl win only increased their reverence for him. Even the fact that he went one and done in the playoffs seven times couldn't stain their rose colored glasses for him. The Colts were thrilled with this and are now setting Andrew Luck up to be the new Peyton.

    The Patriots drafted Tom Brady in the 6th round after seeing his potential at UM. His leadership and willingness to do anything to win was apparent immediately. He was never given the offensive weapons that Peyton was handed every year. He played under several different coordinators using several different schemes, and he has thrived in each of them. He manages the clock and reads and manipulates defenses better than any other QB. He led is team to 3 Superbowl championships, two more Superbowls where he had them in the lead with under 3 minutes to play, and two other AFC Championship games. Thats seven times he has led his team to either the final game or the semifinal game. Can't ask for any more than that out of your quarterback.

     
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    Re: Trading Places

    LOL Peyton Manning in frigid Foxborough throwing to smurf receivers behind a porous O-line and non-existent running game?  


    Versus Brady with an elite supporting cast in a dome that plays to his strengths?  Brady would have 5 rings at a minimum

     
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    Re: Trading Places

    In response to DeadAhead2's comment:

    I am chuckling at the part of the article that says "head to head" by the numbers with a photo of Manning and Brady.

    Is it me, or is GOmie's head getting bigger by the year? lol



    Don't know. Either that or he's losing his hairline like welkie.

     
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