Updated 2011 NFL Mock Draft (1/11/11)

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    Posted by TexasPat3

    Cameron Wake, for example, was an undrafted free agent signed by the Giants in 2005, played 2 years in Canada before racking up 14 sacks this season.

    James Harrison was an undrafted free agent, has been to the Pro Bowl 4 times and won two Super Bowls.  It wasn't until his 6th season did he reach double digit sacks.

    Jason Taylor was taken in the third round, etc...

    There are plenty of guys leading the league in sacks that were first round picks but there are plenty who didn't even get drafted or were drafted late.  Being a consistently good pass rusher can be learned, pass rushing is a one dimensional skill and the best OLB's can also stand up against the run.  

    Almost without exception in the past few seasons when we dedicated 3 defensive tackles on the line of scrimmage we have gotten a pass rush, too often we only play a 2/4/5 alignment or a prevent alignment and we get very little pressure.  

    But when we need it we get it, but we tend to rush the passer with a full front very judiciously; D linemen are a precious commodity that BB prefers to ration.  

    Seymour, Warren, Wilfork, Brace...  BB knows and follows the very simple maxim that you build a football team from the inside out.  If a player like Warren has a debilitating injury that could very possibly end his career or stunt it than expect an early pick on a D tackle and another resigning of a Vet like G. Warren for insurance.

    I also think he'll look at tight end and O Line this draft and take a running back in the 2nd or 3rd.

     
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    In Response to Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft (1/8/11) : Cameron Wake, for example, was an undrafted free agent signed by the Giants in 2005, played 2 years in Canada before racking up 14 sacks this season. James Harrison was an undrafted free agent, has been to the Pro Bowl 4 times and won two Super Bowls.  It wasn't until his 6th season did he reach double digit sacks. Jason Taylor was taken in the third round, etc... There are plenty of guys leading the league in sacks that were first round picks but there are plenty who didn't even get drafted or were drafted late.  Being a consistently good pass rusher can be learned, pass rushing is a one dimensional skill and the best OLB's can also stand up against the run.   Almost without exception in the past few seasons when we dedicated 3 defensive tackles on the line of scrimmage we have gotten a pass rush, too often we only play a 2/4/5 alignment or a prevent alignment and we get very little pressure.   But when we need it we get it, but we tend to rush the passer with a full front very judiciously; D linemen are a precious commodity that BB prefers to ration.   Seymour, Warren, Wilfork, Brace...  BB knows and follows the very simple maxim that you build a football team from the inside out.  If a player like Warren has a debilitating injury that could very possibly end his career or stunt it than expect an early pick on a D tackle and another resigning of a Vet like G. Warren for insurance. I also think he'll look at tight end and O Line this draft and take a running back in the 2nd or 3rd.
    Posted by wozzy


    Tight end?!
     
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    I see us trading down with at least 1 of those picks. say trade #17 for a late first rounder, trade #32 for a second and a second next year, keep #33, as it will be the first pick of day 2 of the draft (under the new format), and they will have all night to research it.

    so I say they end up with pick 24-28 (in that area) from trading down from 17
    and a 2nd next year.
    pick 33 (keep)
    pick 40-45 from trading down from 32 and and extra 2nd next year.

    its always hard to do a mock TP, everyone always has an opinion on who they will take.....

    I say OL/DL/WR or RB in any order
     
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    How much longer do you think Crumpler is going to play?  And lets not confuse that Hernandez is an oversized receiver, we'll need another one that can pave the road once Crump is gone.
     
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    RESPONSE: The Pats have gone to that weird 2/4/5 prevent because BB knows his "D" can't rush the passer. Don't be fooled by Tully Banta-Cain's 9.5 sacks last year...as 5.5 of them came against the Buffalo Bills. 
     
    You believe we can't rush the pass because we don't have pass rushers, I think we can't rush the pass because we get no push from our defensive line except when Vince, the Warren brothers or Brace are playing.

    Pass rushing doesn't happen in a vacuum, Ninkovich, Tully and these guys haven't forgotten how to rush the passer, Cunningham doesn't not possess some secret ingredient that other young players do; they're getting met at the line by offensive tackles who have nothing else to concern themselves with inside.  If Ty Warren were healthy this season we would lead the NFL in run defense and we would have a lot more sacks.
     


     
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    Certainly, to replace Crumpler a great run blocker type if he happens to have soft hands thats just a plus
     
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    TP doing a mock is alwas tough, as everyone has thier opinions. Good job trying to sort it out. I always enjoy youre posts. I dont like the cam newton in the first round. he has vince young funk all over him. I say 3rd round at best, although I will admit some jamoke will draft him before then due to his athletacism...and regret it.
     
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         Wow! After that national championship game, Nick Fairley's stock is up...Cam Newton's stock went down.
    Posted by TexasPat3
    I was at the Championship last Night, and Fairly is a Beast, Unblockable one on one. He goes to Carolina at 1, I don't see a receiver going #1. Cam Newton is a great College QB, Don't expect the Second Coming on this guy. Great Athlete, has all time to throw and misses wide open Receivers. Not sure if he can read a Defense, also always in the shotgun. Just like Alex Smith back at Utah. Lamichael James is no first rounder too small. Looks like second to third round.
     
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    In Response to Re: 2011 NFL Mock Draft (1/8/11) :      Agreed. Fairley was unstoppable. You're a better man than I. I wouldn't want to step foot in that building after what happened to the Patriots there, three years ago. Bad memories.
    Posted by TexasPat3
    Yes that was a terrible night. The Stadium is 5 miles from my Home. Great Party atmosphere at the Game.I plan on Going to Dallas if the Pats get there.
     
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         Now that Nick Faiirley has shown beyond a shadow of a doubt that he's a beast, Cam Newton had the worst game of his college career in his biggest game, and CB Janoris Jenkins has decided to stay in school, it's time to modify my mock, accordingly (1/11/11): 1.) Carolina Panthers: DT Nick Fairley, Auburn:  With defense minded Ron Rivera taking over as head coach, he'll want to rebuild his DL. From what Ive seen of Fairley this season and last night, he's tthe best defensive lineman available: http://football.about.com/od/playerprofiles/p/Nick-Fairley.htm   2.)  Denver Broncos: CB Patrick Peterson, LSU: The top CB in the draft. At 6'1", and blessed with great speed, the guy has the physical attributes for a CB that coaches dream about. With Champ Bailey likely headed out through free agency, this pick seems to make the most sense for a terrible Broncos team: http://football.about.com/od/playerprofiles/p/Patrick-Peterson.htm; 3.) Buffalo Bills: DE Da'Quan Bowers, Clemson: Back to back Clemson players in the first round? The Bills hope that Bowers will be the second coming of Bruce Smith. They think long and hard about Blaine Gabbert. But, as the Bills demonstrated against the Patriots in Buffalo, their DL is weak:  http://football.about.com/od/playerprofiles/p/DaQuan-Bowers.htm 4.) Cincinnati Bengals: WR A.J. Green, Georgia: Terrell Owens will be 37 next season, and both he and Chad Ochocinco appear to have worn out their welcome in Cincy. Green reminds some of Calvin Johnson: http://football.about.com/od/playerprofiles/p/AJ-Green.htm; 5.) Arizona Cardinals: QB Blaine Gabbert, Missouri: Tough choice over DT Marcell Dareus, and QB Cam Newton, especially if Newton has a huge game tonight. But, with Andrew Luck staying in school, Gabbert is emerging as the top QB in the draft...and the Cards are a team in desperate need of a QB. Don't be surprised if the 49ers try to trade up ahead of the Cards, in order to grab Gabbert: http://football.about.com/od/Quarterback/p/Blaine-Gabbert.htm; 6.) Cleveland Browns: DE/DT Marcell Dareus, Alabama: Dareus has the versatility that 3-4 coaches seem to love. Should be an immediate starter at DE for the Brownies, who must improve their run defense, in the physical AFC North: http://football.about.com/od/playerprofiles/p/Marcell-Dareus.htm; 7.) San Francisco 49ers: QB Ryan Mallett, Arkansas: Mallett will be Jim Harbaugh's pet project. Whichever QB the 49ers select, and they will  select a QB, the success of this pick will determine Harbaugh's fate as the 49ers head coach. Got to love Mallett's size (6'7"), and arm strength:   http://football.about.com/od/Quarterback/p/Ryan-Mallett.htm; 8.) Tennessee Titans: CB Prince Amukamara, Nebraska:  Though tthe Titans desperately need a QB, none of those remaining are worth taking this high. So, they'll likely go with the best player available at a position of need approach, and take "The Prince": http://football.about.com/od/playerprofiles/p/Prince-Amukamara.htm 9.) Dallas Cowboys: DE Robert Quinn, North Carolina:  No CB or safety woth taking tthis high. I can't see Jerry Jones taking an OT, even though that's his greatest need. Instead, Jones will try to show how smart he is by taking the talented but troubled Quinn...who might have been a top 5 pick had he played this season. Quinn didn't play, as he wwas suspended by tthe NCAA for the season for taking money from an agent: http://football.about.com/od/playerprofiles/p/Robert-Quinn.htm; 10.) Washington Redskins: OT Nate Solder, Colorado:  As was the case with the Titans, didn't see a QB worth taking so high. So...the Redskins add to their weak OL: http://football.about.com/od/playerprofiles/p/Nate-Solder.htm 11.) Houston Texans: DT Stephen Paea, Oregon State: Could be the NT that Wade Phillips needs to run his 3-4 defense: http://football.about.com/od/playerprofiles/p/Stephen-Paea.htm 12.) Minnesota Vikings: DE J.J. Watt, Wisconsin : With DE Ray Edwards status as a free agent, and his drop off in play this season, the Vikings could be in the market for another DE. Watt can also play 4-3...which may be needed with the Williams boys getting old: www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2727 " /> http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2727 13.) Detroit Lions: OT Derek Sherrod, Missippi State:  The Lions must do a better job of protecting QB Matthew Stafford: http://football.about.com/od/playerprofiles/p/Derek-Sherrod.htm 14.) St. Louis Rams: WR Justin Blackmon, Oklahoma State: As was pretty evident in the Rams play-in game loss to Seattle for the NFC West crown, Sam Bradford badly needs a go to WR: http://football.about.com/od/Wide-Receivers/p/Justin-Blackmon.htm; 15.) Miami Dolphins: RB Mark Ingram, Alabama: The 'Fins may lose both Ricky Williams and Ronnie Brown next season: www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2704; "> http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2704; 16.) Jacksonville Jaguars: CB Brandon Harris, Miami: The Jags' secondary is a mess: www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2730; "> http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2730; 17.) New England Patriots: OLB Akeem Ayers, UCLA: The Pats likely will trade down, with so many similar players still on the board. But, Ayers has the McGinest-type size and speed that could make even BB drool. Other potential picks are OT Anthony Castanzo of BC, OLB/DE Ryan Kerrigan of Purdue, or DE Cameron Jordan, of California. Here's a scouting report on Ayers: http://football.about.com/od/playerprofiles/p/Akeem-Ayers.htm; 18.) San Diego Chargers: DE/OLB Ryan Kerrigan, Purdue: The replacement for Shawne Merriman, as DE/OLB Larry English appears to be a bust: http://football.about.com/od/playerprofiles/p/Ryan-Kerrigan.htm; 19.) New York Giants: OT Anthony Castanzo, Boston College: Giants had no depth on the OL last season, which killed their playoff chances: http://football.about.com/od/Offensive-Linemen/p/Anthony-Castonzo.htm; 20.) Tampa Bay Buccaneers: DE Aldon Smith, Missouri: Bucs get a guy who could develop into a John Abraham-type pass-rusher. In a division with Drew Brees and Matt Ryan, a good pass rush is a good thing to have:  http://www.columbiamissourian.com/stories/2011/01/07/aldon-smith/ 21.) Kansas City Chiiefs: OT Tyron Smith, USC:  It's obvious that Matt Cassel needs another body guard: http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2010/11/29/1844658/tyron-smith-nfl-draft-scouting-report 22.) Indianapolis Colts: C/OG Mike Pouncey, Florida: The Colts need to get younger and more athletic on the OL: http://football.about.com/od/Offensive-Linemen/p/Mike_Pouncey.htm 23.) Philadelphia Eagles: OT Gabe Carimi, Wisconsin: The Eagles' OL was so bad that even the nimble, fleet Michael Vick wwas getting sacked: http://football.about.com/od/Offensive-Linemen/p/Gabe-Carimi.htm 24.) New Orleans Saints: OLB Von Miller, Texas A&M: After watching the Saints "D" give up 41 points to Seattle, it's obvious that they need a play-maker: http://football.about.com/od/playerprofiles/p/Von-Miller.htm 25.) Seattle Seahawks: DE Cameron Jordan, California: Seahawks could use a pass-rushing DE. Pete Carroll should know Jordan well from his USC coaching days: http://football.about.com/od/playerprofiles/p/Cameron-Jordan.htm; 26.) Green Bay Packers: RB Ryan Williams, Virginia Tech:  The Packers strive to take some pressure off QB Aaron Rodgers, by having a more balanced offense: http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2750 27.) New York Jets: DE/DT Cameron Heyward, Ohio State: Jets need more beef on their DL: http://football.about.com/od/playerprofiles/p/Cameron-Heyward.htm; 28.) Chicago Bears: WR Julio Jones, Alabama: Jay Cutler gets his deep threat: http://football.about.com/od/Wide-Receivers/p/Julio-Jones.htm 29.) Pittsburgh Steelers: DE Adrian Clayborn, Iowa: Steelers need a 3-4 DE to replace the aging Aaron Smith: http://football.about.com/od/playerprofiles/p/Adrian-Clayborn.htm; 30.) Baltimore Ravens: FS Raheem Moore, UCLA: Even Ed Reed can't go on forever: www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2720; "> http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2720; 31.) Atlanta Falcons: TE Kyle Rudolph, Notre Dame: Tony Gonzalez can't go on forever, either: www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2740 "> http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2740 32.) New England Patriots: DE Muhammad Wilkerson, Temple: The Pats need to add depth on the DL. Wilkerson could develop into the next Richard Seymour: www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2765 "> http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2765 33.) New England Patriots: CB Aaron Williams, Texas: Kyle Arrington is still a concern: www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2731 "> http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2731 . Could also go with OG/C Stefan Wisniewski: www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2515, "> http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/profile_display.cfm?prospect_id=2515, or OT DeMarcus Love: http://football.about.com/od/Offensive-Linemen/p/DeMarcus-Love.htm      
    Posted by TexasPat3

    I don't see Arizona taking Gabbert. Instead they are talking about McNab, HasselBack, or Bulger while trying to develop Skelton. Whisenhunt after the Super Bowl appearence 2 years ago will be on the hot seat next year. Which is ridiculous, but Arizona has a joke of an Owner. Still way too early but I think it wil be Dareus
     
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