USC's Everson Griffen

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    USC's Everson Griffen

    USC DE Everson Griffen is more likely to be available and would fit in very nicely as an OLB in the Pats 3-4. Griffen could play OLB (he's always been described as a pure 4-3 DE) but he did put up OLB 40 times (4.64 at combine, 4.59 at pro day).
     
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    I'm seeing his name coming up connected to the Patriots, he is a player to watch and could be an option at 22.  He's 6'3" 27+ 4.6+ 40, has all the measurabels BB looks for, the only question with him is his motivation. He had a great 2009 but was that looking for a payday?  What intensity will he come in?

    I think all that is addressed at the interviews if they team feels this guy will come in ready to work he might be the pick. 
     
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    Re: USC's Everson Griffen

    OVERATED
     
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    get him a decent long term contract, and keep him happy, alot of good players come from USC so id be happy to go with him, work ethic? i havent heard any problems with his work ethic at all, just that hes a physical beast, i wouldnt love to see us take him but im am however warming up to the idea

     
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    Pass

     
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    [QUOTE]Pass
    Posted by kansaspatriot[/QUOTE]

    All the measurables but did not deliver in college up to the talent. Sounds like a Browns TE I know. PASS.
     
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    He's got an unbelievable ability when it comes to being able to tackle. For a guy his size he can really move and make tackles alot of players can't.
     
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    People are far too quick to judge.

    Remember, this is a junior in college, not a fully matured adult; if he's struggled with his attitude in the past, or not always taken football seriously, why do we condemn him for it if he's shown evidence of growing up? In all his interviews this year, he's mentioned that getting benched last year was a big wake up call. Further, he goes on to talk about how his new position coach has helped him grow up off the field, as well as improve his play on the gridiron. Evaluate him on who he is, not on the aggregate of his past.

    Oh, and does the fact that he was benched for a rookie pro bowler count as a mitigating factor?

    The fact of the matter is that he was solidly productive this year, despite playing on both sides of the line and switching between standing up and playing with his hand in the dirt. Sometimes he dropped into coverage. Other times he was supposed to maintain contain instead of just all out rushing. His hustle improved immensely. He's always chasing plays down, even if they go to the opposite side of the field. He's pretty decent in coverage, and will only get better with good coaching and improvements in his technique. He also dedicated himself to the weight and film rooms in this past year, and worked hard to actually understand the defensive concepts, not simply run around on the field.

    Add in his impressive physical skills (6'3.5" #270 4.59), his agility and experience in space, his excellent strength against the run, and his ability to create on his own as a passrusher, and he's the total package. In fact, I believe he ought to be our primary target in the first round. He's exactly what this team needs on the left side. Besides, USC defensive players have an astounding track record in the last few years.

    Speaking of which, did we forget that Willie Mac played at the same school and position? I see Everson Griffen as his modern day replacement, which we've lacked on this roster for half a decade. Let's bring him in and give him the ol' 55 so he can join the lineage of great USC linebackers (Willie, Seau) who have played in NE.
     
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    [QUOTE]People are far too quick to judge. Remember, this is a junior in college, not a fully matured adult; if he's struggled with his attitude in the past, or not always taken football seriously, why do we condemn him for it if he's shown evidence of growing up? In all his interviews this year, he's mentioned that getting benched last year was a big wake up call. Further, he goes on to talk about how his new position coach has helped him grow up off the field, as well as improve his play on the gridiron. Evaluate him on who he is, not on the aggregate of his past. Oh, and does the fact that he was benched for a rookie pro bowler count as a mitigating factor? The fact of the matter is that he was solidly productive this year, despite playing on both sides of the line and switching between standing up and playing with his hand in the dirt. Sometimes he dropped into coverage. Other times he was supposed to maintain contain instead of just all out rushing. His hustle improved immensely. He's always chasing plays down, even if they go to the opposite side of the field. He's pretty decent in coverage, and will only get better with good coaching and improvements in his technique. He also dedicated himself to the weight and film rooms in this past year, and worked hard to actually understand the defensive concepts, not simply run around on the field. Add in his impressive physical skills (6'3.5" #270 4.59), his agility and experience in space, his excellent strength against the run, and his ability to create on his own as a passrusher, and he's the total package. In fact, I believe he ought to be our primary target in the first round. He's exactly what this team needs on the left side. Besides, USC defensive players have an astounding track record in the last few years. Speaking of which, did we forget that Willie Mac played at the same school and position? I see Everson Griffen as his modern day replacement, which we've lacked on this roster for half a decade. Let's bring him in and give him the ol' 55 so he can join the lineage of great USC linebackers (Willie, Seau) who have played in NE.
    Posted by reamer[/QUOTE]
    I've been high on him and agree he is a all world talent. Pete Carroll said he is probably the most talented prospect they have ever had at USC. But if he has a history of slacking off and being lazy you have to make a projection of how he would be with say...5 million in his pocket. Agree though he would be able to play in a 34 on the outside and if he was dedicated he could be great.
     
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    here's his grade:

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2010/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-position/dt-by-round-input:1/dt-by-position-input:dl
     
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    he actually has one of the more impressive prodraftparty highlight reel of the de/olb group. the motor is impressively quick even compared to smaller players. he definitely has no problems going around or through blocks.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNzSE9q0R3k

    i think bb would be the perfect coach to help him mature mentally.
     
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    eh. for the most part you end up seeing guys who were productive in college be productive in the nfl, even if they dont have all the measurables. and most of the busts are either the "workout warriors" or underachievers in college who have always been considered stars in the making and have all the talent but dont seem to be able to put it all together (shawn crable and chad jackson anyone??). i would stay away from players like griffen and carlos dunlap for that reason.
     
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    u guys only say "pass" cus u dont have enough info to back up anything else... and during college alot goes on in some1s life so maybe he had family issues that kept him distracted... i wish i culd punch any1 who judges people with one word
     
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    Not saying he would be a bust but I don't like when teams spend picks especially in the first round on guys that there is no way to know if they can convert to a new position. There are some who you know can convert and that is fine but when you are unsure to spend a 1st on a guy you cant tell how he will be is plain stupid. 
     
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    Not saying he would be a bust but I don't like when teams spend picks especially in the first round on guys that there is no way to know if they can convert to a new position. There are some who you know can convert and that is fine but when you are unsure to spend a 1st on a guy you cant tell how he will be is plain stupid. 
    Posted by DaBlade

    YOURE STUPID!!!!jk jk i get what ur saying and thats why we wont take him with our 1st pick, maybe at 53 we'll take him
     
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    [QUOTE]eh. for the most part you end up seeing guys who were productive in college be productive in the nfl, even if they dont have all the measurables. and most of the busts are either the "workout warriors" or underachievers in college who have always been considered stars in the making and have all the talent but dont seem to be able to put it all together (shawn crable and chad jackson anyone??). i would stay away from players like griffen and carlos dunlap for that reason.
    Posted by artielang[/QUOTE]

    I agree and with such a deep draft why take a risk? PASS.
     
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    no dont pass you dont know enough about him.. alot of these soo called 1st rounders didnt have over 10 sacks look at brandon graham he had 4 sacks and ppl think he will be gone before 22, Sea do us all a favor and keep ur 2 dumb sence to urself. the only truley prven pass rusher in my eyes is Terry "THE BEAST" Hughes
     
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    Griffen reminds me of Willie McGinest
     
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    [QUOTE]no dont pass you dont know enough about him.. alot of these soo called 1st rounders didnt have over 10 sacks look at brandon graham he had 4 sacks and ppl think he will be gone before 22, Sea do us all a favor and keep ur 2 dumb sence to urself. the only truley prven pass rusher in my eyes is Terry "THE BEAST" Hughes
    Posted by TateGroup[/QUOTE]

    You mean Jerry Hughes?
     
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    id take him with a 2nd
    definitely not a 1st round player though
    has a nice, big upside
     
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    Why even waste your time figuring out who BB will pick in the draft? Why not wait till he make his picks? ... more efficient use of time to research on players after they get picked...
     
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    In Response to Re: USC's Everson Griffen : You mean Jerry Hughes?
    Posted by Pats7393

    O.o yea lol meant Jerry... mybad
     
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    Assuming Kindle and Graham are gone at 22, I'd much rather the Pats select Hughes over Griffen.  Hughes  

     
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    no dont pass you dont know enough about him.. alot of these soo called 1st rounders didnt have over 10 sacks look at brandon graham he had 4 sacks and ppl think he will be gone before 22, Sea do us all a favor and keep ur 2 dumb sence to urself. the only truley prven pass rusher in my eyes is Terry "THE BEAST" Hughes
    Posted by TateGroup


    tak a hik u bigmth dpsht
     
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    Why even waste your time figuring out who BB will pick in the draft? Why not wait till he make his picks? Posted by NoBS14


    Oh, I know! I know! is it because this is a discussion board?
     
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