Vollmer listed #7 best rookie-but I think he is better than that

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    From what I have seen to this date, Sebatian has played as well as Jake Long has for Miami.  Great Left OTs are the third hardest player to find in the NFL. This kid is the best I have seen so far for our Team.
     
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    To anybody who praised Vollmer before the draft, and suggested him as a second round pick, please repost your original post(s) here. I hear a lot of people acting like they were Vollmer experts and fans long before the draft. Anybody? Anybody? I thought so...
    Posted by arodrambone


    What I remember about the reaction to this kid's selection is a lot of "Belichick's staff must know something a lot of other people don't know," which is pretty much par for the course around here. I think people who expected him to do well because Belichicki expected him to do well can be excused for now claiming to be "Vollmer Guys" when what they really are are "Belichick Guys."
     
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    Don't forget BB had a extra month ( no playoffs ) to prepare for the draft. Normally we are playiing right up to Feb / superbowl.

     
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    Laz, Your point about Hicks is a good one but Brandon Tate was also a steal. I did not watch much UNC football but what I've read Tate was the better receiver between the two before he got hurt. I know they put him on the IR after only playing for a few games but he showed great potential. It is not a bad thing to have Edelman and Tate coming into camp next year learning from the best receiver tandem in the league.
    Although I don't see Tate ever really being a number one.  I still think that they need to start thinking of finding a possible 81 replacement (If that even exists) but for the most part our receiving crop is looking great.
     
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    To anybody who praised Vollmer before the draft, and suggested him as a second round pick, please repost your original post(s) here. I hear a lot of people acting like they were Vollmer experts and fans long before the draft. Anybody? Anybody? I thought so...
    Posted by arodrambone


    This is why I posted kudos to the scouts, because most of us never heard of this guy before the draft.
     
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    In Response to Re: Vollmer listed #7 best rookie-but I think he is better than that : What I remember about the reaction to this kid's selection is a lot of "Belichick's staff must know something a lot of other people don't know," which is pretty much par for the course around here. I think people who expected him to do well because Belichicki expected him to do well can be excused for now claiming to be "Vollmer Guys" when what they really are are "Belichick Guys."
    Posted by prairiemike


    Eggs-actly!  Most of us didn't know who he was...not familiar with the Houston roster and/or team in general.  However, there were tons of Pats fans that went sour, once a pick was spent on Vollmer.  Personally, I mmediately noticed the size and athleticism (i.e. people this big normally don't play soccer) and noticed that he actually hasn't played football as long as most US-born Americans.  Already, he had bubbled up to arrive on the Pat's radar early on.  This was significant.  However, in retrospect, so many Pats fans were buggin' out on this pick.
     
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    Interesting thread
    (personally I liked the SeaBass pick ~ but believed he could have been had a bit later in the draft )

    The following is a reprint of an earlier post of mine
    (thought it might be fittting considering the topic )

    Shortly after the Pats 2009 Draft ~
    I got curious as to to the where , what & how's of BB's wheelin' n dealin'.
    So I charted the moves to help understand what he was up to .

    Here it is :

    PATRIOTS 2009 DRAFT TRADES :

    A ) Cassel / Vrabel trade = Db Patrick Chung ( # 34 overall )

    B ) Moving back twice in 1st round ( trades with Ravens # 23 & Packers # 26 ) =

    Db Darius Butler( # 41 ), Wr Brandon Tate ( # 83 ) , Qb J Edelman ( # 232 ) & also resulted in aquiring 2010 Jags 2nd rounder

    It also made E Hobbs expendable ( Butler pick ) Which resulted in the two aquired Eagle's picks being parlayed into :

    OT Ohrnberger ( # 123 ) & LS Jake Ingram ( # 198 )

    C ) Pats second 2nd rounder (acquired via 2008 Chargers trade : # 47 overall )

    Was then packaged with 4th & 6th rounders to Raiders = Ron Brace ( # 40 )

    D ) Pats trade their natural 3rd rounder to Titans for 2010 2nd rounder .

    ( currently no worse than #35 overall )

    Total of 7 Draft related trades = 7 players ( plus two 2010 2nd rounders )

    ( 5 other players aquired via natural draft position selection / compensatory )
    = 12 Overall Draft picks

    Note :
    Tyrone McKenzie ( # 97 ) was selected with 3rd round compensatory pick

    George Bussey ( 170 ) was a 5th round comp pick
    Myron Pryer ( 207 ) was a 6th round comp pick

    ( Comp Picks were awarded for loss of Asante Samuel / D. Stalworth )

    Of the 7 officially designated picks -

    The Pats used only their natural 2nd rounder ( Volmer # 58 )

    and natural 7th rounder( Daryl Richards # 234 ) .


    2009 DRAFT = 12 Players
    ( 2 DB's / 3 DT 's / 3 O-Line / 1 LB / 1 WR / 1QB / 1 LS )


    Amazingly ... ALL are still Patriots
    ( as of 10 /31 / 09 )

    FINAL 2009 PATS DRAFT SELECTIONS :

    2 34 Patrick Chung, S, Oregon

    2 40 Ron Brace, DL, Boston College

    2 41 Darius Butler, CB, Connecticut

    2 58 Sebastian Vollmer, OL, Houston

    3 83 Brandon Tate, WR, North Carolina

    3 97 Tyrone McKenzie, LB, South Florida

    4 123 Rich Ohrnberger, OL, Penn State

    5 170 George Bussey, OL, Louisville

    6 198 Jake Ingram, LS, Hawaii

    6 207 Myron Pryor, DT, Kentucky

    7 232 Julian Edelman, WR, Kent

    7 234 Darryl Richard, DL, Georgia Tech


     
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    Re: Vollmer listed #7 best rookie-but I think he is better than that

    In Response to Re: Vollmer listed #7 best rookie-but I think he is better than that:
    To anybody who praised Vollmer before the draft, and suggested him as a second round pick, please repost your original post(s) here. I hear a lot of people acting like they were Vollmer experts and fans long before the draft. Anybody? Anybody? I thought so...
    Posted by arodrambone


    lol good post
     
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