Re: Want a good laugh?
posted at 9/6/2011 9:03 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Want a good laugh?
This isn't so much about the Jets as it is Felger's agenda being obvious as he desperatley uses them as a team to say they did better. It's absoutely ludicrous to ignore NE hitting oin 1st rd picks, not having a Gholston anywhere near their resume and then pretending NY has better yields. They don't! They haven't done better! Run the names. Same with Indy. Nope. Baltimore. Nope. Pitt? Nope. And you do the same thing with your agenda. You are very likely a troll doing a very good job in here posing as a Pats fan.
Posted by RidingWithTheKing
Okay, Russ...let's run the names. The Jets are a good team to contrast against the Patriots, because they seem to rely on a quality over quantity approach...while the Pats shoot for quantity, primarily in rounds 2-3. I'll look at the past 5 years below, and list only the contributors for each team:I.) 2006 Draft:
A.) NY Jets:
1.) LT D'Brickashaw Ferguson (4th overall): Two time pro-bowl selection in 2009 and 2010:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%27Brickashaw_Ferguson
2.) C Nick Mangold (29th overall): Three time pro-bowler, 2008-2010: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Mangold
3.) WR/KR Brad Smith (103rd overall): Represented the Jet's wildcat offense. Big play guy. Excellent kick returner. Signed to big money free agent deal in 2011 by the Buffalo Bills: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Smith_(American_football
4.) RB/KR Leon Washington (117th overall): Better than Darren Sproles, until he suffered a badly broken leg in 2009. Extremely dangerous in the open field as a RB, or KR. Three time pro-bowl selection in 2007, 2008, and 2010: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Washington B.) N.E. Patriots:
1.) RB Laurence Maroney: (21st overall): Had three decent years with the Pats as a RB, before the wheels came off for him in 2010: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurence_Maroney
2.) PK Stephen Gostkowski: (118th overall): Usually reliable, and a good kick-off man. Has done a solid job. Pro-bowler and NFL scoring leader in 2008: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_GostkowskiII. 2007 Draft:
A.) NY Jets:
1.) CB Darrelle Revis (14th overall): Best CB in the game...and maybe the best defensive player in the league. Three time pro-bowler, 2008-10: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrelle_Revis
2.) ILB David Harris (47th overall): One of the top ILBs in the NFL. Pro-bowl selection in 2009: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Harris_(American_football
);B.) NE Patriots:
1.) FS Brandon Meriweather (24th overall): An enigma. Two-time pro-bowler in 2009-10, who seemingly regressed a bit every year he played. Released by Pats in 2011: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Meriweather
2.) Traded 60th and 110th overall selections in order to acquire WRs Wes Welker and Randy Moss.2008 Draft:
A.) NY Jets:
1.) TE Dustin Keller (30th overall): Good pass receiving option. Solid player: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dustin_Keller
2.) CB Dwight Lowery (113th overall): Decent nickel CB, who Jets traded in 2011, rather than releasing him: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwight_LoweryB.) NE Patriots:
1.) LB Jerod Mayo (10th overall): The heart of the Patriots' defense, along with Vince Wilfolk. Defensive rookie of the year, and pro-bowler in 2010;
2.) WR Matthew Slater (153rd overall): Very good special teams performer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_SlaterIII. 2009 Draft:
A.) NY Jets:
1.) QB Mark Sanchez: (5th overall): Good young QB, who seems to be improving every season. Has been tough under pressure: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Sanchez
2.) RB Shonn Greene: (65th overall): The main man in the Jets' backfield. Takes over for LT. Tough, solid RB: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shonn_GreeneB.) NE Patriots:
1.) SS Patrick Chung (34th overall): Tough tackler and very good special team player. Though he's had his moments, he appears to have issues in pass coverage. Durability has been a problem: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Chung
2.) RT Sebastien Vollmer (58th overall): Solid RT with upside...but nothing more to this point: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebastian_Vollmer
3.) WR/PR Julian Edelman (232rd overall): Has evolved into a very effective punt returner. Inconsistent as a receiver, but hopes still abound that one day he'll be able to take over for Wes Welker in the slot: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_EdelmanIV. 2010 Draft: A.) NY Jets:
1.) CB Kyle Wilson (29th overall): Nickel CB has been a disappointment for the Jets thus far.B.) NE Patriots:
1.) CB Devin McCourty (27th overall): Enjoyed a great rookie year, in which he made the pro-bowl: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devin_McCourty
2.) TE Rob Gronkowski (42nd overall): Outstanding rookie campaign for Gronk, who flashed pro-bowl capabilities. Scored 10 TDs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Gronkowski
3.) OLB/DE Jermaine Cunningham (53rd overall): Showed some signs that he could develop into an effective pass-rusher. But, we need to see more. Showed little during the preseason: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jermaine_Cunningham
4.) ILB Brandon Spikes (#62 overall): Showed flashes of being a force inside. Much maligned for his lack of speed, but displayed football instincts. Must behave himself off the field, if he's to fulfill his potential: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Spikes
5.) TE Aaron Hernandez (#113 overall): Has the ability to develop into a Dallas Clark-like TE. Excellent hands, and good speed for his size. 2011 could be a break-out season for him, if he can stay healthy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Hernandez
6.) P Zolton "The Magnificent" Mesko (#150 overall): Has seized the punting job in Foxboro. Has the potential to blossom into one of the league's better punters. Good directional kicker: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoltan_Mesko_(American_football
)***** The Verdict:
1.) 2006: The Jets had a magnificent draft.
The Patriots did a fair-poor job.
2.) 2007: The Jets again scored big time, with two of the best young defenders in the game. Revis makes teams change their game plans to work around him.
GRADE: A+ (Revis is a once in a decade player)
The Patriots got some production out of Brandon Meriweather. But, in the end, he never came close to fufilling expectations. Getting Wes Welker and Randy Moss for draft picks were brilliant BB moves.
3.) 2008: Striking out on Vernon Gholston may have cost the Jets a SB: GRADE: D;
The Pats scored with Mayo...but whiffed every other time up:
4.) 2009: The Jets boldly traded up, and stole Mark Sanchez. Shonn Greene is a solid back:
The Patriots blew a golden opportunity to strengthen themselves by passing on Clay Matthews and Mike Wallace. Striking out on Butler, Brace, and Tate really hurts. Nonetheless, they did find Vollmer...and there's still hope for Chung and Edelman:
5.) 2010: The Jets flopped with Kyle Wilson and Vlad Ducasse:
The Pats finally dusted themselves off in 2010 with McCourty, Gronk, Spikes, Hernandez, and Mesko leading the way:
Jets Grades: A+, A+, D, B, D-: Avg. Grade: B-
Pats' Grades: C-, B, C, C, A+: Avg. Grade: B-