We are wasting a roster spot on #5

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    Re: We are wasting a roster spot on #5

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    I doubt very much the opposing team would like to see Tebow rather than Brady late in the third quarter down say 31 - 10. Much simpler for them to have Brady in just handing off to burn clock and stop the run than to have to worry about an extra option of Tebow running as well as the backs.

     

    And if you think a 31 - 10 lead late in the 3rd is safe then you must not have seen our D or running game in situations like that much.

     

     

     



    That almost sounds like Rusty.

     

     

     



    Rusty ever says our D is an issue?

     

     

     




    It was a joke Vito.  Do you really think opposing teams would rather see TT than TB. Really?

     

     

     

     


    Yes, I really think in situations where they know we are going to run they may well rather see Brady because he is very likely not going to pass and anybody can hand off.

    I absolutely would from late in the 3rd quarter with a 20 point lead throw TT out there with a clock eating run attack mixed with the occasional keep them honest TT pass/run option. Obviously if the drive came down to a 3rd and 9+ yards I would probably shuttle Brady back in. Not only could this be more effective in that situation than just having Brady hand off, but it would perhaps save some wear and tear on the aging HOFer.

     

     




    HORRIBLE idea. Here is why.  Tebow could easily commit a careless turnover, give the opposition the ball with momentum, and turn a 20 pt blowout into a 13 pt game quicker than you can blink.  Leads can evaporate quickly in the NFL.  You don't need some scrub carelessly fumbling the ball away while trying to make something happen, or throwing up a wobbler to the opposing defense even if you are up big. 

     
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    Re: We are wasting a roster spot on #5

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    I doubt very much the opposing team would like to see Tebow rather than Brady late in the third quarter down say 31 - 10. Much simpler for them to have Brady in just handing off to burn clock and stop the run than to have to worry about an extra option of Tebow running as well as the backs.

     

    And if you think a 31 - 10 lead late in the 3rd is safe then you must not have seen our D or running game in situations like that much.

     

     

     



    That almost sounds like Rusty.

     

     

     



    Rusty ever says our D is an issue?

     

     

     




    It was a joke Vito.  Do you really think opposing teams would rather see TT than TB. Really?

     

     

     


    Yes, I really think in situations where they know we are going to run they may well rather see Brady because he is very likely not going to pass and anybody can hand off.

    I absolutely would from late in the 3rd quarter with a 20 point lead throw TT out there with a clock eating run attack mixed with the occasional keep them honest TT pass/run option. Obviously if the drive came down to a 3rd and 9+ yards I would probably shuttle Brady back in. Not only could this be more effective in that situation than just having Brady hand off, but it would perhaps save some wear and tear on the aging HOFer.

     

     



    Agreed, about getting Brady off the field in junk time.  One thing i cant stand that BB does is leave him on the field with 2 min left in the 4th quarter and a 3 TD lead.  Hate it.  But I don't want to see TT either.

     

    Yes, I really think in situations where they know we are going to run they may well rather see Brady because he is very likely not going to pass and anybody can hand off.

     

    I agree with running more, have said it over and over here, but if the other team "knows" we are going to run, then I hope we throw.

     

    Lets develop a pounding running game that can not only control the clock when up by 3 tds in the 3rd quarter, but can also control the entire game.  This seems like a much better plan.

     
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    Re: We are wasting a roster spot on #5

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    I doubt very much the opposing team would like to see Tebow rather than Brady late in the third quarter down say 31 - 10. Much simpler for them to have Brady in just handing off to burn clock and stop the run than to have to worry about an extra option of Tebow running as well as the backs.

     

    And if you think a 31 - 10 lead late in the 3rd is safe then you must not have seen our D or running game in situations like that much.

     

     

     



    That almost sounds like Rusty.

     

     

     



    Rusty ever says our D is an issue?

     

     

     




    It was a joke Vito.  Do you really think opposing teams would rather see TT than TB. Really?

     

     

     


    Yes, I really think in situations where they know we are going to run they may well rather see Brady because he is very likely not going to pass and anybody can hand off.

    I absolutely would from late in the 3rd quarter with a 20 point lead throw TT out there with a clock eating run attack mixed with the occasional keep them honest TT pass/run option. Obviously if the drive came down to a 3rd and 9+ yards I would probably shuttle Brady back in. Not only could this be more effective in that situation than just having Brady hand off, but it would perhaps save some wear and tear on the aging HOFer.

     

     

     

     



    Agreed, about getting Brady off the field in junk time.  One thing i cant stand that BB does is leave him on the field with 2 min left in the 4th quarter and a 3 TD lead.  Hate it.  But I don't want to see TT either.

     

     

     

    Yes, I really think in situations where they know we are going to run they may well rather see Brady because he is very likely not going to pass and anybody can hand off.

     

    I agree with running more, have said it over and over here, but if the other team "knows" we are going to run, then I hope we throw.

     

    Lets develop a pounding running game that can not only control the clock when up by 3 tds in the 3rd quarter, but can also control the entire game.  This seems like a much better plan.



    We don't and are not going to have a pounding running game. Just get that out of your head, because it ain't going to happen. We seldom run well against good teams, especially late.

     


    Problem is if you do throw and miss when you're trying to burn clock you have just given the other guy a free timeout.

    When you have a big lead late the tendency is for the leading team to slack off and ride the lead. It's human nature. Meanwhile the other guys are desperate and claw to get back if for no other reason to save face.

    I could see TT as a specialist and well suited to that specific job. As a matter of fact creating a special hand picked offensive unit for those situations might go a long way in solving these late and large comebacks we have to contend with all too often.

    Anybody can go out there and hand off on these clock burning drives. If you can't see how a Tebow could be an extra advantage in that situation after the explanations, I have to conclude you simply have an insurmountable prejudice against TT that will never succumb to reason.

     



    Nothing against him personally. Think he is a good person. 

    Back to the original question, if we use him in the role you say, how much time does he really play and is it worth a roster spot?

     
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    Re: We are wasting a roster spot on #5

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    Nothing against him personally. Think he is a good person. 

     

    Back to the original question, if we use him in the role you say, how much time does he really play and is it worth a roster spot?

     



    If he plays nearly a quarter in that clock burn role for 4 or 5 games, plus can be used for some sort of change of pace wrinkle (maybe in the backfield with Brady in a shotgun), plus is an alternative option for 3rd and short QB sneak, plus gets some action as a Rb or receiver or ST guy, plus is a backup QB; he would be pretty valuable.

     

    If any coach could exploit TT's unique set of skills, it's BB.

    Hell, I would keep him just for 3rd and short sneaks. I cringe every time Brady does that.

     




    This honestly makes a lot of sense to me. I have said the same thing on other threads. One further argument - it extends Brady's career.

     
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    Re: We are wasting a roster spot on #5

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    Nothing against him personally. Think he is a good person. 

     

    Back to the original question, if we use him in the role you say, how much time does he really play and is it worth a roster spot?

     

     

     



    If he plays nearly a quarter in that clock burn role for 4 or 5 games, plus can be used for some sort of change of pace wrinkle (maybe in the backfield with Brady in a shotgun), plus is an alternative option for 3rd and short QB sneak, plus gets some action as a Rb or receiver or ST guy, plus is a backup QB; he would be pretty valuable.

     

     

     

    If any coach could exploit TT's unique set of skills, it's BB.

    Hell, I would keep him just for 3rd and short sneaks. I cringe every time Brady does that.

     

     

     




    This honestly makes a lot of sense to me. I have said the same thing on other threads. One further argument - it extends Brady's career.

     

     

     




    Yup. Remember that sneak Brady did where he did an entire flip? Arrrrrgggghhhhh!!!

     

     




    It's burned into my memory bank. If this is the same play you are talking about, didn't he get torpedoed by Ray Lewis on the way down.

     
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    Re: We are wasting a roster spot on #5

    Why is everyone trying to figure out how Tebow will see the field during a real game this year? How many third QBs make it to the field to play during the regular season? Barring injuries and blowouts, none! Why do you all expect Tebow to buck that trend?  He won't! And just because he doesn't make it to the field doesn't mean he is a wasted roster spot. 

     
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    Re: We are wasting a roster spot on #5

    Amazing how horrible our offense looks with Tebow running it.

     
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