We lost 4 games last season....

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    We lost 4 games last season....

    and on 3 of those the Pats had the lead with less than 3 minutes to go and the defense failed to make a play to stop the opponets offense.

    What's that tell you.  We need more play makers on defense.
     
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    Re: We lost 4 games last season....

    It's been well documented that the offense, in the regular season, is pretty unstoppable.

    The playoffs have painted a very different picture.

    The offense is not diverse enough, that much seems to be widely agreed upon. Where the lack of diversity comes from is the point of contention.

    The Pats need some help on D, yes, but they also need some kind of adjustemnt on offense. Good defenses can shut down this offense when it matters. Too many guys working between the numbers, around the sticks. Simply too many.

    The D, I think, will get better simply with a FULL offseason, and a year of seasoning for some of these guys:

    Spikes
    McCourty
    Chung
    Mayo
    Cunningham
    Dowling
    Moore
    Love
    Deaderick

    And Laz, man, you ask some tough questions. What? You don't like when someone looks at a small piece of the whole pie? Listen, some of us have to buy our cheesecake by the slice and just assume the rest is the same. ;)
     
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    Ah yes another raging debate over just who's fault this was - the third ranked offense lead by a hall of fame QB and record breaking tight end or the third to last ranked defense lead by...
     
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    and on 3 of those the Pats had the lead with less than 3 minutes to go and the defense failed to make a play to stop the opponets offense. What's that tell you.  We need more play makers on defense.
    Posted by jaxpat



    Bad analysis.  It tells me we had a pretty good team.  It tells me our offense can't hold the ball late in games sometimes.  Yes, the defense needs some extra work on the back end.  It's a small tweak.  We need a number 1 WR.
     
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    It was a good season.  We made it to the Superbowl.  All the "one and done" people immediately switched to "lost the superbowl to the Giants AGAIN" and that is just crazy.  We lost the core of our old defense, had an offense that had to be rebuilt after repeated issues, and we were competitive all those years of getting the rebuild done, now we are getting to a new year, have good or great guys signed at all the major positions with very few exceptions, and we are in excellent position in the FA market, both with the money and the cachet to get the FAs.  I am sure BB is not going to do what I want him to, or what I think he will, but I can say, he will keep us at the front of the pack again.  Brady is an above average quarterback, but the idea that he is all we need to win is silly.  We need what we always needed, offense defense and special teams playing complementary football.  A bit of work in a few areas and we are good to go.
     
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    Re: We lost 4 games last season....

    ^Sealed


    Laz, you have catapulted to the top of my BDC poster list. Especially with the 1st response to the OP on this thread but also because of the passion for cigars..

    I'm smoking a Monte Cristo #4. Somebody told me they are the number 1 selling cigar int he world? IDK but I smoke them cuz my boss gives me a case on Christmas every year!!! Great smoke

     
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    Re: We lost 4 games last season....

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    and on 3 of those the Pats had the lead with less than 3 minutes to go and the defense failed to make a play to stop the opponets offense. What's that tell you.  We need more play makers on defense.
    Posted by jaxpat


    The last game(SB) I saw them lose, the offense failed to execute on their final drive that could have won the game. I also saw the offense get an INT on a deep ball that our TE could not go after because of his ankle injury-why did B'Ob call that play?

    I also saw our offense give up a safety on their first possesion.

    Offense squander 14 points and gave two to the Jints.

     
     
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    Re: We lost 4 games last season....

    first of all, 4 losses ain't so bad.

    It's unfortunate that we lost the SB, but, overall it was a team loss; including bad coaching/game plan.

    The Patriots, for the most part, beat most of the average and poorer teams - but had a tough time agains teams w/ a decent pass rush and could cover.  Face it, the Patriots are at the top of the second tier.
     
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    ^ Laz, you have catapulted to the top of my BDC poster list. Especially with the 1st response to the OP on this thread but also because of the passion for cigars.. I'm smoking a Monte Cristo #4. Somebody told me they are the number 1 selling cigar int he world? IDK but I smoke them cuz my boss gives me a case on Christmas every year!!! Great smoke
    Posted by TrueChamp


    That's the Cuban blend and not the Dominican.  But still a nice smoke!  Give a sumatra a try.  It's not strong and a damned fine smoke.  Rocky Patel makes a couple of different ones.
     
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    Oh for Christ's sake.  It's called a TEAM effort.  I question whether some of you are really football fans.
     
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    I think it's pretty clear what the Pats need to do:

    Assuming they keep most of their key free agents (Welker, maybe Branch, Connolly and/or Koppen, maybe Light, Anderson and/or Carter, etc.):
    • They need to get much better on defense--and that means bringing in three to five top players, at least two in the defensive backfield and at least one (preferably two or three) in the front seven positions.
    • On offense, they need one or two more weapons to give them more diversity--I think a top-quality wideout is the key.  I'd also like to see a more explosive RB who can catch as well as run well (maybe that's Ridley or Vereen).   Some depth pieces (blocking third TE, for instance) would be nice too. 
    Personally, I think the fastest way to a championship is to start improving the defense (a project that is going to take more than one year), but also get at least one more top quality offensive weapon to improve the diversity of the offense.  Since you really only need one guy on offense you may as well try to get that guy, because offense is currently the one thing that has the potential to be truly exceptional on this team and is therefore, the primary strength of the team that makes it championship calibre. 

    However, we need a defense that can get opposing offenses off the field faster, so shoring up the defensive backfield and the edge positions (OLB/DE) in the front seven are crucial too.  

    If it were up to me, I'd be targeting three top guys this year (in no particular order):

    1. A top level wideout (I'm assuming Welker is staying so this is in addition to Welker)
    2. A top level DB (either safety or corner--just get the best DB available)
    3. An OLB/DE--preferably someone who can rush the passer and also drop into coverage (OLB), but a disruptive guy at the LOS (DE) would be okay too. 

    After that, I'd stress getting bodies to compete for the various defensive positions.  I think you can ignore offense (beyond the wideout) as long as you are sure enough of your interior linemen are coming back and you have some faith in the RBs we already have and can re-sign.  The one exception is that third TE--doesn't have to be a star, but it would be nice to have one guy who can block and occasionally catch a pass.  



     
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