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Bottom line is Welker has a lot of miles on him, is getting slower, older, has 2 straight years of increased drops and isn't worth the money he thought. As unfair as that is to him in terms of what he's earned as a pro, it's the harsh truth of how players are viewed as FAs over the age of 30.
No one is arguing Wes is not worth the money he and his agent, and many of us thought. But for the Pats team this year, with the current alternatives including Hernandez and Amendola, Wes was worth it to the Pats at 2/$12. Wes would have ultimately signed here for the same Denver deal, he even gave the Pats "last call"
I am hoping you come back to the board in December saying how right you were, and we are not looking at Amendola and Edelman on IR, and Hern has missed his usual 3-4 games, Dobson is in his "red shirt year" and Boyce is on the PS...and ole TB is throwing TD's to the likes of Hawkins and Branch as he always does
We are all hoping for the same. BUT isn't that always the case? WW is gone, thank goodness. Now maybe Tom will go back to making his reads and throwing the ball instinctively instead of defaulting to Wes for security. Tom needed Wes to go as much as any other reason. He was too dependant on him, and unfortunately, in the end, WW let the team down.
Your comments are so refreshing to read. Seriously. Please stay -and post. 95% of the board has no clue what you're even talking about at all. So, it's me and a handful of others vs a large vocal majority who are very new to the game or bandwagon fans trying to tell me (and others) Brady is the same QB he was in 2004. lol
Look at this drive right here:
Look at the pass to Branch off to the weak side where he goes out of bounds at the 3. That's a West Coast style play with Brady under Center. He literally sees single man coverage, knows Branch can beat it with ease on his route and he just gets out from under Center and hits him in stride.
THAT is what we need. Picture Josh Boyce now being that with Brady in our offense.
When was the last time Brady looked that sharp? 2010 after Moss was dealt?
Dillon is never subbed for on the drive, they use some I Formations and runs early in the drive to show run, and then they pass from under Center. Shotgun is only used on 3rd and longs, like it should be used.
That is not a "West Coast" play anymore than it is an Erhardt-Perkins play. It's a smash concept, originated by Sid Gillman, the inventor of the modern passing game. IT's just another stretch play, as old as dirt where the inside WR/TE/RB runs a corner route over the outside WR (always)who runs a curl or an in route.
West Coast offenses like Walsh's ran that because everyone ran it by the 1970s, let alone the 1980s where everyone from Joe Gibbs's Redskins, Levy's Bills, Parcell's Giants, Infante's Bengals. The Oilers' run and shoot and Walsh's Niners ran it. All of them from different pedigrees, all of them running that old concept.
The Patriots haven't stopped running that concept either. Here is them using it to win a game in
Moreover, even last season they ran that play multiple times a game, from multiple formations and with multiple players filling in the "inside" receiver role, from Hernandez (who runs it a ton) to Welker (who runs it the most), Woodhead, even Gronk sometimes, will run the "corner" in the smash depending on how the personnel is aligned.
Here is an article from just last season detailing how they use Welker on the Smash.
And if it makes the Pats a "West Coast" offense, then I suppose that smash play makes the Giants a West Coast offense too (they aren't they are also a EP offense, though Gilbride has put his "run and shoot" stamp on Coughlin's EP offense) because it's the exact same play they ran on Manningham's back breaking catch against a dazed and confused Moore/Chung in the last Superbowl NE appeared in. Even though Eli actually went to his second read on the strong side because Manningham beat his man so bad and was out in front .... it was a smash. The Giants are not West Coast either.
The Steelers ran it to win the Superbowl a few years back ... Holmes' big catch, if I recall correctly was a Smash concept.
Everyone runs it.
Moreover, BB did not learn that from watching Bill Walsh. It was not Walsh or West Coast influence that brought it there. Here is an article about the Patriots offense from just last season, where discusses rather definitively how they actually ran the Smash concept with Ted Marchibroda's Colts in the mid-1970s before Walsh was ever in the NFL.
"Patriots coach Bill Belichick’s eyes were opened his very first year in the NFL – 1975 with Ted Marchibroda’s Colts as a special assistant/errand boy — when he saw firsthand how a coaching staff named certain concepts.
'You learn to make words that are easy to say, one syllable and distinct,” Belichick said. “At the Colts, all our strong-side patterns were score, strike, sting, smash. And the weak-side patterns were whirl, whisk, wheel. And it was one word, usually one syllable, told everybody what to do [he says as he snaps his finger].'”
I've read Bill Walsh's two most important books man. There is no coach that is as important as him to football tactics and strategies on the whole over the last 40 years. Not even Belichik. Belichik draws from him, but everyone does since the 1980s because if you don't you are a dead duck. But that play is not a "West Coast" original, every single team in the NFL, NCAA, and highschool run the Smash concept, and Bill, like everyone else just picked it up because it's as old as dirt.
It's not evidence that NE was West Coast and now is something different, because they still run it, like everyone else in the NFL.