Re: Welker's hit on Talib was intentional
posted at 1/22/2014 11:59 AM EST
In response to PatsEng's comment:
In response to jaxpat's comment:
I firmly believe this is the case. Welker stated he went low thinking Talib was going to go over the top.....BS. Welker had zero intention of being a reciever on the play ....hell he was putting his shoulder into Talib while the ball was in the air.
IMO....I believe the Denver coaching staff specifically Del Rio put the hit on Talib knowing the devastating impact Talib absence would have on the Pats D. They had first hand knowledge of this last season after seeing what happened when he went out of the Ravens AFC game.
My next question is.....why did Hooman get a PI penalty and Welker did not. A receiver cannot block downfield until after the ball is received by another reciever and Thomas never caught the ball.....in fact after reviewing the film....the hit on Talib occurred prior to the ball being touched by Thomas.
I know this is water under the bridge but that single play opened up the Pats pass defense allowing Denver to move the ball up and down the field the rest of the game.
I believe the Pats need to imploy the identical tactics in the future.
If that was Den's plan they used one of their better WRs with recent concussion issues to take out a CB? That's makes no sense. First it could potentially end Welkers career if he didn't hit right. Second, opens up Den and the NFL to a massive lawsuit if he was ordered to put his career on the line to take out another player. Actually, given how he ducked his head down and away from the body my guess would be he wanted to make sure he didn't get injured on the play and unfortunately Talib is just fragile. What person in their right mind would say, oh coach you want me to take him out? Sure it could cost me a chance to play in another SB, end my career, and cause permenant brain damage that will greatly shorten my life but anything to take a s h o t at taking out another player I use to be team mates with. Yeah I'm sure that's exactly how it went down. Come on use some common sense. It was a pick play. The Pats run them all the time too. Welker was nervous about getting his bell rung again because Talib is higher and his shoulder is perfect height to impact Welkers head so he ducked it out of the way. If you believe that was intentionally meant to take Talib out of the game and not just out of that play the you must also believe BB orders hits on other CBs too when he calls pick plays.
While I agree with the portion of this statement that said--the intention was to take Talib out of the play vs. the game---the simple fact is there are two words in both those statements that match: take out. That is where everything gets murky. When you intend to "take out" a player---the potential is ALWAYS for that person to get injured and/or have to leave the game. When, in baseball, the lead runner "takes out" the middle infielder---isn't there a chance those guys get injured? And what is the possibility of the runner getting injured--very minimal. When you are making a hit in football you can protect yourself a lot better than the person receiving the hit. MAKE NO MISTAKE--WELKER WAS TAKING TALIB OUT. This was no "rub" --- not even really a pick---it was a full out slam-into block. AND OF COURSE IN REPLY TO ALL YOU MORONS SAYING A CONCUSSED PLAYER WOULD NOT DO THAT----YES THEY WOULD IF THEY KNEW WHAT AND HOW TO DO IT WITHOUT INJURING THEMSELVES. Any time a player w/concussions straps on a football helmet and run a play they have the potential to scramble their brains---but when they know what they are intending to do their safety increases. Welker is a smart football player--he knew how to disguise it. And in reply to the doofi (plural of doofus--I just made up) saying that the Edelman play was the same simply are not paying attention--Edelman contacted Cromartie AFTER the catch had been made--he was blocking. This was a designed play---run Talib into a pick---and make sure you stick him---not just "rub" him which means almost make contact but force the player to redirect. Welker SLAMS HIS WHOLE BODY INTO TALIB. Again, I don't think he meant to hurt his knee--I think that was just a timing thing when Talib planted his leg. But I do believe the hip was a target. Just like when a QB has a hurt arm or leg the DL goes after it---this was designed to rough Talib up in that area.