What about the "Steeler Way"??

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    Always respected the Rooneys and the Steelers organization. The plan gets altered when old age and free agency catch up with them. Problem is that won't be any time soon. They will franchise Woodley and keep all the key players on their team.
     
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    Screw the numbers (like Peyton's) it's the rings anyway you can get them. (rapists, murderers, spys)
    Do you really care if Brady has a pizz poor game but gets the team in position for another lucky FG to pull it out?  HELL NO...you won!!!! That's all that mattered. Ben's a winner, congrats to him...now I hope he loses to Green Bay.
     
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    All we hear about and talk about in this parts is this almost MYTHical (and I'm using the word MYTH strongly, "Patriot Way" of doing things. Well, what about the "Steeler Way"?? Do we discount the fact that all this organization does is WIN?? They do it with toughness, solid drafting, RUNNING, defense ,GOOD OC and DC's and...finally THEY SPEND MONEY! The Pats have one of the lowest total payrolls in the NFL. Second I believe to Arizona. The Steelers have one of the highest. I mean, is BB writing the checks himself?? We need talent. MORE than what we have now. I agree with drafting it more than FA's but for cryin out loud it takes money to make money so to speak. Is there a crime in drafting high and actually PAYING the picks. We done enough with the volume/value approach. It's time to maximize and plug holes and throw some cash around. The Steelers to me right now are the Gold Standard organization..not the Pats. You can't argue the results.
    Posted by smorgan86


    BS.
     
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    I can't argue with the OP even if he is a registered troll. Pitt has been one of the best drafting teams in the game. The team is predicated on two of 3 most important aspects of the game. Running the ball and smash mouth defense. Gotta respect that.

    With that said no team has won more games then the NE Patriots the past decade so Smorgan or whatever your name is you are obviously still the same hater you have been for the past year.

    I would say the Patriot way is working out just fine.
     
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    You can't discredit that but neither can you discredit the Patriots success. As good as the Steelers have been since 2005 they still have 2 losing seasons in that time. The Patriots have not had a losing season since 2001, nor have they really been close barring the injury ridden 2002 season.

    I agree with your top 3 teams of the decade as most would but I believe the Patriots brass has given us the most consistent shot at winning year in and year out. Teams just don't go 11-5 without the reigning league mvp, or 14-2 in a re-building year.

    As much as I wish we had landed better players in the draft from 06-8 I would say we have been doing something right.
     
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    All we hear about and talk about in this parts is this almost MYTHical (and I'm using the word MYTH strongly, "Patriot Way" of doing things. Well, what about the "Steeler Way"?? Do we discount the fact that all this organization does is WIN?? They do it with toughness, solid drafting, RUNNING, defense ,GOOD OC and DC's and...finally THEY SPEND MONEY! The Pats have one of the lowest total payrolls in the NFL. Second I believe to Arizona. The Steelers have one of the highest. I mean, is BB writing the checks himself?? We need talent. MORE than what we have now. I agree with drafting it more than FA's but for cryin out loud it takes money to make money so to speak. Is there a crime in drafting high and actually PAYING the picks. We done enough with the volume/value approach. It's time to maximize and plug holes and throw some cash around. The Steelers to me right now are the Gold Standard organization..not the Pats. You can't argue the results.
    Posted by smorgan86


    hey smorgan,
     i agreed with everything you said. all of it. i share all those sentiments with you.
    posted as much (except steelers as gold standard) on the thread: 

    Re: 2011 Patriots Draft Options ***UPDATED MOCK 1/15***


    see below:

              Bill BELICHICK, PAY ATTENTION. THESE ARE SOME MOVES YOU SERIOUSLY NEED TO CONSIDER:
    1. fire billy o'brian. he hasn't a clue how to manage a game offensively. wake up bill and realize it. either let brady call his own plays (god he should know by now what call to make) or get a real offensive coordinator who is actually good.

    2. Trade Merriweather and our early #1 to carolina and get fairly, dareous or whoever you think will be a beast on the d line (if they don't bite, get the highest you can to snag one of these guys).

    3. trade our # 28 and guyton or tully banta or whoever is expendable and has value(or include a later pick or next year pick if you have to) and see if you can get up to the mid teens and get either the best offensive linemen or the best outside linebacker who is also a sack machine.

    ** others may have outlined strategies nabbing several offensive lineman without trading up,
    but i want a top tier impact player at these 3 positions, however we can do that.

    ***Of course, if you can get a stud at these three positions via F.A. even better

    4. with # 33 get get whichever of the 2 above you didnt take (outside linebacker or offensive lineman).

    5. forget trading down or worrying about stockpiling for 2012.
        eventually you have to go for it or all your players including brady will continue to pass their window of opportunity. the jets beat you in a lot of ways and one was going for the best players however you can get them f.a., draft etc while you go for quantity. neither are bad, unless you take to the extreme. (no i wouldn't mind trading 1 pick or 1 early and a late round into 2012, but jeez, come on! Enough mediocrity).

    6. obviously, if you can, later in the draft or f.a,. pick up the necessary free safety, wide receiver, cornerback, running back etc that you need.

    7. to me it's either get the stud players you need now or trade whatever it takes to get the #1 pick next year to get andrew luck and buiold for 3-5 years down the line(obviously a gamble-if you trade now, you dont know for sure who's pick it will be; if you wait till it's decided next year, it may take the farm to trade for the pick). obviously i don't advocate for this strategy, but make a darned decision, go for it now or later. enough of this halfway mediocre nonsense.

    8. obviously you need to keep all your offensive lineman. but the line has to improve. it's good, but not good enough to go against a great d line and hold up through a whole championship campaign.

    9. to review: billy is gone (replaced by a real coordinator or brady calls his offensive plays), get stud(the best) d lineman, o lineman and outside linebacker studs. fill in the rest of the cracks. no more excuses. you are better than that. get what you need and get 1 or 2 championships.

    (later i also question belichick's insecurity re: his not hiring competent coaches)

    thanks for everyone's post
    out
        
     
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    In Response to Re: What about the "Steeler Way"??:
    Can't speak for other Patriot fans, but I've always respected and liked watching the Steelers too (and the "old" 49ers). If Roethlisberger and the Steelers win the SB this year, one could argue that they were the NFL team of the past decade.
    Posted by itsjustagame1


    Not sure when the decade starts or ends or does it just mean whatever 10 year period one wants to talk about. The thing with the steelers is they have been pretty inconsistant. One year they win it all the next year they don't even make the playoffs. This has happen pretty regular of late and with that kind of performance I would not call them the team of the decade.
     
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    All we hear about and talk about in this parts is this almost MYTHical (and I'm using the word MYTH strongly, "Patriot Way" of doing things. Well, what about the "Steeler Way"?? Do we discount the fact that all this organization does is WIN?? They do it with toughness, solid drafting, RUNNING, defense ,GOOD OC and DC's and...finally THEY SPEND MONEY! The Pats have one of the lowest total payrolls in the NFL. Second I believe to Arizona. The Steelers have one of the highest. I mean, is BB writing the checks himself?? We need talent. MORE than what we have now. I agree with drafting it more than FA's but for cryin out loud it takes money to make money so to speak. Is there a crime in drafting high and actually PAYING the picks. We done enough with the volume/value approach. It's time to maximize and plug holes and throw some cash around. The Steelers to me right now are the Gold Standard organization..not the Pats. You can't argue the results.
    Posted by smorgan86


    to the people trashing smorgan's post.
         hey you are not thinking or talking about his main points. 
    they are really good points. try re-reading it. further everything we do is not terrible. we are doing some things right. but if our organization changed it's perspective in a few areas, we might have already had another 1 or 2 super bowls, and have a shot at more than we will if we don't learn from our experiences as a franchise. 
         let's not be so reactionary. share our thoughtful comments about others thoughts.

    peace

     
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    I'm making a note of the fans who are now promoting the Steelers all of a sudden. 
    Posted by BBReigns



    I'm making a list and checking it twice
    Gonna find out who's naughty and nice

    (Sorry Rusty . . . couldn't help myself)
     
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    In Response to What about the "Steeler Way"??:
    All we hear about and talk about in this parts is this almost MYTHical (and I'm using the word MYTH strongly, "Patriot Way" of doing things. Well, what about the "Steeler Way"?? Do we discount the fact that all this organization does is WIN?? They do it with toughness, solid drafting, RUNNING, defense ,GOOD OC and DC's and...finally THEY SPEND MONEY! The Pats have one of the lowest total payrolls in the NFL. Second I believe to Arizona. The Steelers have one of the highest. I mean, is BB writing the checks himself?? We need talent. MORE than what we have now. I agree with drafting it more than FA's but for cryin out loud it takes money to make money so to speak. Is there a crime in drafting high and actually PAYING the picks. We done enough with the volume/value approach. It's time to maximize and plug holes and throw some cash around. The Steelers to me right now are the Gold Standard organization..not the Pats. You can't argue the results.
    Posted by smorgan86

    I don't see why it is one OR the other.  Both do it the right way.  In past years, Steeler players (Joey Porter, anyone?) talked as much as the Jests do.  So on that account, we have had them beat.  WE did the team introduction thing.  We were the ones winning and NOT talking ¢rap.  NOT the Steelers.  But at this moment, they seem to be taking their place in the big boy circle with us. 

     
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    In Response to Re: What about the "Steeler Way"?? : Crow? For what?  The Steelers are an excellent team.  As poorly as the Jets played in the first half, it really only came down to the strip sack at the end of the half.  It wasn't like the entire world was picking hte Jets to win and they choked like NE did.  By the way, how was Sanchez in the cold? That guy really brings his A game in the playoffs, sort of the opposite of TB.
    Posted by PhatRex



    Look, its RatPhex!  
     
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    I have to admit, I've always really liked the Steelers (the current QB excepted). They're probably my second favorite team after the Pats. I think they do a great job year after year.  I like their style of play.  As someone who started watching NFL football in the 1970s when the Steelers were great and the Pats were two steps and a left turn below dog meat, it's sort of nice that people are now debating which of the two organizations is the creme de la creme.  We've come a long way, baby . . .

     
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